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[Nee-sama]

Do they still think there's going to be another big earthquake? Or was that it?


Someone showed me this video, I think you guys should see it. EDIT just watch the first couple minutes.

posted on march 8.

Edited by Nee-sama, 16 March 2011 - 05:23 PM.

[Kyuudaime]

Do they still think there's going to be another big earthquake? Or was that it?


Someone showed me this video, I think you guys should see it.
posted on march 8.

I honestly just shut this after 13 minutes or so of watching it when she mentioned a certain something...
And she guessed an earthquake after studying them for a year? Couldn't anyone who studies them have anticipate an earthquake then?

[ciardha]

Lets hope that's it for big quakes. I hadn't heard they were predicting another big one soon. I hope that doesn't happen. I know aftershocks aren't unusual even months after a big quake, and it's not unusual for a big one on one fault line to trigger moderate ones on nearby faultlines. The later has happened already in Japan.

For some reason I'm not seeing your video link, I'm on Firefox so I don't know why it's not showing up. Oh, I see from what people are saying what it was about. I haven't heard anything about comets being linked, and I can't really see how either. Earthquakes come from Plate Tectonics, the minimal gravitational pull of a comet would be too small and too far away to have any influence. Even the moon only effects the tides. Now that does make me wonder if a tsunami happened at high tide would it be more severe than if it happened at low tide...

Edited by ciardha, 16 March 2011 - 05:20 PM.

[Nee-sama]

Yeah sorry for wasting your time. I just the first two minutes interesting because there were two earthquakes two years in a row when this comet was in about the same place. Just a coincidence probably.

[Insurrection]

Well When Wikileaks tells you that they were warned two years ago about this, then we've entered Captain Obvious Territory:

http://www.telegraph...ables-show.html

[Kyuudaime]

Yeah sorry for wasting your time. I just the first two minutes interesting because there were two earthquakes two years in a row when this comet was in about the same place. Just a coincidence probably.

Well, earthquakes happen pretty often, don't they? A lot of them are probably just small and she probably just linked those two earthquakes because of the comet's position.

I probably should have just stopped watching when she was implying that a comet farther from Earth than the distance of Jupiter was causing these quakes though.

Edited by Kyuudaime, 16 March 2011 - 05:28 PM.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Some good news stories/videos

http://news.yahoo.co...-japan-disaster

[Insurrection]

From Reuters: FLASH: US NRC Chairman says spent fuel pool at Japan's reactor 4 has no water, radiation levels are "extremely high"

US urges Citizens within 80 km of Japan plant to leave

UK advises British Nationals north of Tokyo and in Tokyo to consider leaving.

BBC: French Embassy tells citizens to head south to Kyoto or to leave.

And the estimates are now at $200 Billion dollars in damage in Japan from the Tsunami and Earthquake.

I follow their twitter feed
http://twitter.com/Reuters

Reactor 3 is crippled and venting radioactive steam into the air.

Edited by Insurrection, 16 March 2011 - 06:32 PM.

[alexander]

I had been following the news about the reactors so far, but what area would they cover in case radiations leaks from, I don't know, all of them?

[dl316bh]

US NRC Chairman says spent fuel pool at Japan's reactor 4 has no water

... Then why don't they put water on it?

[Sakura Blossoms]

... Then why don't they put water on it?

They've been trying. A helicopter tried to dump water on it but missed somehow. And now they have resorted to using hoses that police usually use against riot crowds.

[ciardha]

I had been following the news about the reactors so far, but what area would they cover in case radiations leaks from, I don't know, all of them?

Think Chernobyl. The thought of that just makes me sick to my stomach. I hope it doesn't happen.

From what I heard Shauna, the radiation was just too high for them to get in close enough with the helicopters.

Edited by ciardha, 16 March 2011 - 07:44 PM.

[alexander]

Think Chernobyl. The thought of that just makes me sick to my stomach. I hope it doesn't happen.

I went looking for informations regarding Chernobyl, the area covered by the leaks of two reactors reached other two countries apart from Russia, in such an small country like Japan this kind of leaks would result in contamination of nearly the whole country, but if something like this happen, were would they evacuate all these people? China?

Edited by alexander, 16 March 2011 - 08:14 PM.

[catsi563]

actually this is closer to a slightly worse version of three mile island. Cherynobl was a disaster waiting to happen. The reactors were poorly built and designed and had minimal to no safety standards. The resultant explosion and meltdown was so poorly contained that the end result was a fallout cloud that covered nearly a third of europe along with part sof russia.

It was a trully unmitigated disaster.

These plants are in bad shape but not as bad as the chernobyl reactor.

the major issues here are exposure of the workers and leaks into the drinking water and ground water.

Edited by catsi563, 16 March 2011 - 08:38 PM.

[Cloud]

I went looking for informations regarding Chernobyl, the area covered by the leaks of two reactors reached other two countries apart from Russia, in such an small country like Japan this kind of leaks would result in contamination of nearly the whole country, but if something like this happen, were would they evacuate all these people? China?

China? Only if Hu Jintao stops being a dbag, and also that the Chinese still do not like the Japanese... Taiwan is good, but there's some animosity there too.

[ciardha]

Fukushima was also a disaster waiting to happen- which is why it was planned to be shut down soon- too many safety issues had cropped up, especially after the 2002 scandal revealed Tepco was hiding and falsifying records, and the Fukushima reactors were the worst of the lot. It was also just too old and just not safe enough by modern safety standards. The active reactors were better than Chernobyl but the inactive ones that stored the spent but highly radioactive rods were not. This is where the biggest threat is currently. But even the active reactors have had their containment areas are severely compromised, bringing the situation a lot closer to Chernobyl than Three Mile Island, where 1 reactor went into partial meltdown but the other 3 stayed stable, there was not the fires we've seen at Fukushima nor any holes in the exterior of the reactor. It only got to the point of making a "hydrogen bubble" they feared would catch on fire. Fukushima has also emitted higher radioactivity for a longer period now than Three Mile Island and it's still not under control. Oh and at Chernobyl only one of the reactors exploded. But like Fukushima it had fires for multiple days (10 at Chernobyl)

As for the Chernobyl evacuation area- it was 30 miles in any direction from the plant starting 1989, after they discovered 19 miles wasn''t far enough, too many deformed farm animals were being born outside the 19 mile zone. Even today the community that makes sure the containment of the reactor stays intact lives 30 miles from the plant.

Tokyo is far enough that they aren't in the red zone even in a Chernobyl situation, but certainly if that does happen you'll have comparable jumps in radioactive contamination as you do in Europe from Chernobyl.

Edited by ciardha, 16 March 2011 - 10:16 PM.

[Sakura Blossoms]

From what I heard Shauna, the radiation was just too high for them to get in close enough with the helicopters.

Ah okay, that's what it was.

[Insurrection]

Tokyo is far enough that they aren't in the red zone even in a Chernobyl situation, but certainly if that does happen you'll have comparable jumps in radioactive contamination as you do in Europe from Chernobyl.

Yeah, but the radiation zone isn't necessarily always red. Chernobyl's radiation effects are said to have covered Parts of Northern Europe. The report that I assume you're mentioning was the IAEA UN report that covered Belarus, Ukraine and Russia. Or that story on reuters, but either way Japan needs help. Hopefully this new electric line they were working on can be connected to restart the cooling system.

But the damage has already been done.

Edited by Insurrection, 16 March 2011 - 10:59 PM.