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[TheFirstEvil100]

 

Buffy! One of the best shows ever! Keep the good work!

lol you got that right it is to me its better than Buffy I mean it has strong females after all.

 

And guess what storm 4 ending gameplay has copyed Metal gear soild 4 fight and I mean the last fight which both just punch each other, hell the guy playing it noticed it, but we need to face it Naruto takes thing from better anime and better games, since it can't be good.

[VanitasDS76491]

lol you got that right it is to me its better than Buffy I mean it has strong females after all.

 

And guess what storm 4 ending gameplay has copyed Metal gear soild 4 fight and I mean the last fight which both just punch each other, hell the guy playing it noticed it, but we need to face it Naruto takes thing from better anime and better games, since it can't be good.

That and Metal Gear Solid 4's final fight felt more rewarding and felt like a finale unlike Naruto's which felt like it was a waste of time. Ya Naruto basically take elements for better story like Metal Gear Solid and Star Wars among others and did them badly. 

[Bail o' Lies]

lol you got that right it is to me its better than Buffy I mean it has strong females after all.

 

And guess what storm 4 ending game-play has copied Metal gear solid 4 fight and I mean the last fight which both just punch each other, hell the guy playing it noticed it, but we need to face it Naruto takes thing from better anime and better games, since it can't be good.

What guy?

[TheFirstEvil100]

What guy?

a youtuber called Tetra Ninja who does lets plays of games.

[Bail o' Lies]

a youtuber called Tetra Ninja who does lets plays of games.

Ah, Thank you. As for the lack of creativity in Naruto. Kishi has always taken stuff from other stories. He may have a good moment every once and awhile with his story. Also while the story wasn't bad, the main thing he had going for him as I say is "the likability of his characters." With that gone  Naruto has and will continue to hemorrhage fans.

[Bail o' Lies]

@ Bail o'Lies
That a fact that after ending, Kishi bait NS to angry so it excluded for Naruto fandom. Base on my experience it only happen in Naruto, even I understand Kishi motive but It still regrettable. 

 

@ VanitasDS76491

If god of Naruverse wants NH whatever Hinata screen time than it will happen.

 

@ redrose3443

But it approved by WSJ reader and made a lot of money from 2 movies.  Kishi just follow manga industry way of life, he even very active sterilized Naruto fandom form hater.

God of the Naruto verse? Well she got screen time because Kishi  later editors and assistances kept pushing her on him, and the reason nH happened was because the executives thought they would get a lot of money from the west if it happened. Instead they made the Bolt movie heavily SNS because the last was flop both in Japan where it was heavily hated because of the no refunds, and internationally because not enough nH actually bother to go to the movie theaters and instead just wait till it came online.

 

Also kishi is actively trying to get rid of the haters? One, when has kishi ever been active especially with his fanbase? Two, how has kishi been trying to get rid of the haters? What the interviews!? He has constantly been changing his answers on why the ending happened in hopes of appeasing the disgruntled fans? The so called "haters" you mention.

 

What the manga one shots, the bolt movie and the gaiden? He barely has hinata in any of them. When she is their she barely does anything. The gaiden was more focus on bashing SS (one of the end pairings) than anything else.

 

Well since I asked you alot of question. I understand you not answering them all. Let see what I feel you did answers. Not well mind you, but at least gave something close to an answer.

 

...Kishi original idea was: "just Naruto visiting a ramen stand." He has admitted to that in interviews. He has also admitted to this. After Yahagi gave him some advice to change the story. He went with: "the one shot where Naruto was the son of a nine tailed fox." After a few more suggestion/advice from Yahagi the story became Naruto as we know today. One of the biggest selling manga internationally. Yes, Clearly! Everything Yahagi did was such as disaster and such a humongous mistake! A tragedy for the ages!

 

Also Kishimoto did not write "The Last: Naruto Movie" he only did the designs for the characters. The person who wrote the last was Kyozuka Maruo, and it was Directed by Tsuneo Kobayashi. Both of them work for SP. Kishimoto in several interviews has said that The Last was entirely SP idea. In an interview Kobayashi said the only thing Kishimoto ask for in their first meeting about the movie was, that Naruto remain the main character in the movie. If Kishi came up with ideas for the movie why did Kobayashi mention it in his interview? He actually admitted that kishi wasn't the one who came up that scarf idea. The only line they mention kishi help with was "It takes a long time to knit a scarf."

 

Once again. If he originally wanted Hinata to be the heroine? Why not make her apart of team 7? Why is she only in what 38 panels and under 20 chapters of a manga that's 700 chapter in length?  Why is it that he consonantly says he is surprised of her popularity? Why is that after she apparently take her so called "rightful place" as "The True Heroine, The Goddess of Naruto." That she still has so little screen time in both the gaiden, and Bolt's movie? 

 

And now. If Kishi is Finally free of the oppressive shackles Yahagi place on him by ruining his original plans for Naruto. Condemning him with the romantic story of Naruto/Sakura which he kept seemingly to the last minute. Despite Yahagi leaving years ago. He is now allowed to do with the Bolt's manga that he originally wanted to do with Naruto. Isn't he? Why is it that instead he is handing it over to someone else, and is constantly mentioning that he is tired and done with Naruto? Isn't he FINALLY FREE TO DO WHAT HE ORIGINALLY WANTED!? 

One sentence. You answered at best one sentience.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 11 February 2016 - 08:23 AM.

[rocci]

@nostradamus
Is that your comment?

[Bail o' Lies]

Scott Pilgrim honest trailer ... OK. I can see a lot of these lines being used for the last. "Get Ready for the movie you couldn't wait to see! But didn't show up to support." Sound like the last. "Every character in it is horrible garbage person.", "Experience the definition of style over substance." Yep the last... especially 2:29-2:51.

 

So how did this help you "understand on why Hinata is more popular than Sakura?" You still haven't answered that? I can guess but tell everyone "just go watch the video" isn't really a good answer.

 

From the comment section:

"Scott Pilgrim: A movie about horrible people and their inhumanities to each other to achieve an ultimately petty and counter productive goal. Basically the human experience with hipsters."

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 11 February 2016 - 08:39 AM.

[db84x]

@ Bail O'Lies

Naruto is creation from Kishimoto and it always like that. And yeah The Last is flop, really funny   .

 

Thanks Bail for made Kishi plan work more smoothly. 

[Nar123]

@ Bail O'Lies
Naruto is creation from Kishimoto and it always like that. And yeah The Last is flop, really funny   .
 
Thanks Bail for made Kishi plan work more smoothly. 

Pls, you treat Kishi as if he is some kind if mastermind when actually he is just a rather dumb, naive, quite sexist guy

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

 

TL just integrated Kishi original idea into story by eliminate almost all Yahagi idea, angry NS fans made it easy due their burning bridge act. Whatever you complain it wont useful because NS already written off and excluded from Naruto fandom.  DC can reboot pairing because comic fans love it.

 

Because DC, Marvel and any other comic/novel organization mostly respect the fandom because the fans bring them the money and  its the reason why Rowling still has most of her fans after HP, unlike wit Shuiesha and SJ done with Kishi (staged interviews) and Naruto. 

 

 

 

NS was written off because of heavy rumors about Shuiesha editors hated Sakura and ran an anti-Sakura campaign against her character to get the approval to strip her of her heroine title and give it to Hinata, and to degrade her character. They refused a Sakura ending and it was said that Kishi rallied support from other mangaka, but your "NH" shipmates (the anti-Sakura fandom) sent the studio death threat/hate mails because of the Pain Arc about Hinata went in to rescue Naruto while they criticized Sakura and called her a  b**** for not helping Naruto. That is why we have this ending. Till this day, there we will never know why the creators hate Sakura.

 

I can only give my hypothesis that it has to do with Kishi's wive for meddling in the manga. It was confirmed that she helped her husband to establish the MK relationship and requested to her husband to make a character based off of her. And that character happens to be Kushina. And Japan has gender issues.

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@nar123
I will not take him seriously anymore.

@bail
"Why Scott doesn't choose that asian girl (who like Hinata) over Ramona"

And I will not call the last as flop.

Edited by rocci, 11 February 2016 - 01:49 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Ah so that's what you mean.

[Bail o' Lies]

@nar123
I will not take him seriously anymore.

@bail
"Why Scott doesn't choose that Asian girl (who like Hinata) over Ramona"

And I will not call the last a flop.

...Weren't they both Asians? I thought you were going on about something else entirely.

 

As for the Last then why have they basically avoided hinata since then? Why was she so unimportant in the bolt movie? The gaiden was SS so we can excluded that. But why since the last kishi done so little with her if she's the girl he always wanted Naruto to get with? Kishi has instead since the last avoiding nH as much as possible. They gone to SS focused for the gaiden which kishi bashed and then SNS for the bolt movie. And the fact it got numbers higher then the last has led SP to create recently that basically a SNS CD. What that hokage one shot? You think that's a happy story about nH?

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 11 February 2016 - 06:14 PM.

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@bail
Both of them are asian who obsessively love a loser who love a women who may not interested with the loser.

That because Kishi doesn't care about Hinata at all. Only her fan, wanker, and sp who care about her.
Sns is kishi pairing of choose.

[Bail o' Lies]

...And how does that help you understand the nH fans better now?

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

@ Bail O'Lies

Naruto is creation from Kishimoto and it always like that. And yeah The Last is flop, really funny   .

 

Thanks Bail for made Kishi plan work more smoothly. 

You do know that the main reason it made so much money was because...

A.) A lot of pre-ordered tickets due to marketing lies in making people believe Kakashi, Sasuke, and Team Seven in general would have big roles.

B.) Once it was revealed shortly before the debut that it was merely a NH shoujo fanfic movie, theaters refused refunds, something they never did with previous Naruto movies.

[Bail o' Lies]

You do know that the main reason it made so much money was because...

A.) A lot of pre-ordered tickets due to marketing lies in making people believe Kakashi, Sasuke, and Team Seven in general would have big roles.

B.) Once it was revealed shortly before the debut that it was merely a NH shoujo fanfic movie, theaters refused refunds, something they never did with previous Naruto movies.

Also he acting like the last and everything after was all part of kishimoto's plan...When I point out that kishimoto didn't write the last and didn't have much involvement beyond character design. Doesn't refute it. When I point out that most of kishimoto interviews are him constantly changing his story in order to appease the disgruntled fans the "haters." Doesn't refute it. Kishimoto also constantly says that he is done with Naruto, he is tried of it, and he wants to work on something else. Naruto series is getting a sequel that he has handed off to someone else with him taking a "supervisor role."  Which would be the exact opposite reaction of someone who has gotten everything they wanted from their story, and is now free to do with the sequel what he originally wanted to do with the original story that was corrupted by the "evil editor" Yahagi because apparently this ending was his revenge on Yahagi for...helping him out when he was just starting as a mangaka. Doesn't refute it.

 

Edit: Also what was the plan and what was the goal of this so called plan? To have a large portion of the paying consumers leave? To have His and his story reputation destroyed? To humiliate himself in Japan and become a laughing stock for a year?  

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 12 February 2016 - 02:28 AM.

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...And how does that help you understand the nH fans better now?

I don't think I said that.

[Bail o' Lies]

Just watch honest trailer Scott pilgrim vs the world.
I think I'm more understand on why Hinata is more popular than sakura.

My mistake. You still haven't explain this then. Which is basically the same thing by understanding why Hinata is more popular then Sakura. That should help you understand why some people like nH more then NS. Shouldn't it?

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 11 February 2016 - 07:27 PM.