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[FireFox]

I understand. It's just that everyone will do it through power like Indra and Kaguya, but Zetsu wants Kaguya back again, so that tablet is for them to wake her up. So either way, nothing but madness one way or another.

Yeah i know ,  I guess now we have to wait for the Hokage to arrive so the real battle can begin since its pretty much obvious that the N/S attack will fail although I wonder how are they gonna get there ? Minato and Tobirama probably can FTG to that dimension if they can sense Naruto since they both have already put their mark on Naruto but what about Hashi and Saru ? I wonder how all of this will play out and how the battle will proceed from there on  , and i have this feeling that Obito will somehow be a game changer in all of this . 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah i know ,  I guess now we have to wait for the Hokage to arrive so the real battle can begin since its pretty much obvious that the N/S attack will fail although I wonder how are they gonna get there ? Minato and Tobirama probably can FTG to that dimension if they can sense Naruto since they both have already put their mark on Naruto but what about Hashi and Saru ? I wonder how all of this will play out and how the battle will proceed from there on  , and i have this feeling that Obito will somehow be a game changer in all of this . 

Well everyone has to group up in order for all of them to go to the other place. Otherwise, well some would be left behind. Everyone is gearing up, so it's only matter of time of their next move.

[Iwantbuns]

I like Hinata, but I laugh my frikin' butt off when someone falls over XD

 

 

Oh god... 

Edited by Iwantbuns, 20 June 2014 - 07:03 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Off-topic: What the hell? LoK season 3 starts...next week? Why everyone keep doing a surprise attack? What? Sega Saturn announcement is awesome to do now? I mean what gives? I'm not even ready and I don't mean excitement, just in general. It's like "Naruto movie 10! Coming...NOW!" Oh well...

[Gojira]

First of all this is totally wrong  
 
1. Sakura wasn't trying to escape after she find out that Naruto was happier , she wanted to escape but after she saw how Happy he is she was wiling to stay if he's happy , that's why they have their talk when she asked him if he was happy and when Naruto said he kinda was she left i mean seriously dude how was she selfish in here  ?
 
2. And no she didn't decide to leave just because of "Sasuke" if you watched the movie you would know that she was already feeling lonely because there was nobody in her home "her parents" this why before she went out she ask herself if "Naruto felt the same way all this time" her seeing that Sasuke didn't give kitten about her even in here as in "I'm here for you" was just the icing on the cake . The main reason was her loneliness and because reality hit her because of her parents and her feeling lonely in her home not "Sasuke" .
 
Seriously dude i thought that this was simple and i don't see this as much as Kishi's fault as much as people misinterpreting  .

No need to get to get testy those were actual complaints.

Although after that scene with Naruto she did intend to back when she questioned Menma about where Tobi is right after that scene.

Edited by Pepsi, 20 June 2014 - 07:12 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

Guys do you agree with this? In tv tropes i found a trope labeled thescrappy 

 

Unfortunately sakura haruno fits this trope and heres what they say.

 

 

• Sakura Haruno. First, some fans disliked her because she wasn't powerful enough and often let her fangirling over Sasuke take away from her potential. When Shippuden starts, she trained with Tsunade in medical arts and has became a competent ninja in her own right and it looked like she wasRescued from the Scrappy Heap, but she quickly became a disliked character again after her fight against Sasori. People were disappointed that she didn't really do anything significant after that fight, and her fake love confession to Naruto, her inability to kill the defected Sasuke and her general crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part 1 didn't do anything to help in that regard.

 

Yeah kishi really did screw up on sakura BIG TIME It does beg the question why is it so hard to make sakura herione? Like why did he he kinda gave herionish role to others like side characters like hinata for a chapter, but when it comes to sakura he just can't seem to do it....

 

I really don't understand kishi.

See, it's this kind of stuff that really grinds my gears a lot because people forget a whole lot more details or they find no reason to focus on those details because they are too busy focusing on other things.

Let's put Hinata in a category
Probably either this one
http://tvtropes.org/...om=Main.YouSuck

or even maybe this
http://tvtropes.org/...hp/Main/AntiSue

It's even worse when you realize that when it comes to Sakura all anyone does anymore is pay attention to what she does wrong and make her out to be worse than she actually is, but with Hinata people only look at what she does right and make her out to be better than what she actually is. If you apply the same logic that people do to Sakura and put it on Hinata, then Hinata would be the definition of "pathetic."

 

[luffyq1]

I feel sick to my stomach that I even compare her to such a one dimensional character. It's really insulting.

[Gojira]

Still waiting for NH to be officially killed off like SS was back in 675 though its likely been dead for a while now anyway since apparently even the 3rd databook refers to Sakura's love for Sasuke in the past tense.

[BlueStarSaber]

See, it's this kind of stuff that really grinds my gears a lot because people forget a whole lot more details or they find no reason to focus on those details because they are too busy focusing on other things.

Let's put Hinata in a category
Probably either this one
http://tvtropes.org/...om=Main.YouSuck

or even maybe this
http://tvtropes.org/...hp/Main/AntiSue

It's even worse when you realize that when it comes to Sakura all anyone does anymore is pay attention to what she does wrong and make her out to be worse than she actually is, but with Hinata people only look at what she does right and make her out to be better than what she actually is. If you apply the same logic that people do to Sakura and put it on Hinata, then Hinata would be the definition of "pathetic."

 

 

I honestly think TV trope is biased

[Nate River]

See, it's this kind of stuff that really grinds my gears a lot because people forget a whole lot more details or they find no reason to focus on those details because they are too busy focusing on other things.

Let's put Hinata in a category
Probably either this one
http://tvtropes.org/...om=Main.YouSuck

or even maybe this
http://tvtropes.org/...hp/Main/AntiSue

It's even worse when you realize that when it comes to Sakura all anyone does anymore is pay attention to what she does wrong and make her out to be worse than she actually is, but with Hinata people only look at what she does right and make her out to be better than what she actually is. If you apply the same logic that people do to Sakura and put it on Hinata, then Hinata would be the definition of "pathetic."

Hinata's neither. She's not designed as an Mary Sue inverse and she isn't significant to really fit other.

I'm also confused as to the source of irritation. Is it the poster for saying or at people for feeling that way?

Because if it's the former, I don't see what's so offensive about that post. theScrappy is about fandom perception and that post talks about fandom perception. There are people who dislike her for those reasons. That post does not deal with the legitimacy of the dislike.

Finally, the "but Hinata sucks too" isn't a defense. If you prove she does that is all you proven. That Hinata is a crappy character does not prove Sakura has worth.

[Sakura~]

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I wonder why Kishi made NH and SS so obvious in part 1. I mean he did it for a reason, so I still think NH and SS have a big chance of happening. I know they're awful, but Naruto ending up with Hinata would be one of those random shippings that happens for the heck of it. And he could easily make Sasuke fell in love with Sakura, and Sakura will obviously not reject him. Kishi isn't very good with romance. So, I have a right to be worried. Hinata has been gushing over Naruto since episode 1. I don't think Kishi will just ignore that. All the possibilities can happen, that's what I'm trying to say here. HINATA SHOULD JUST DIE.

Man, I put too much thought into and now I'm beginning to have negative thoughts :( it hurts ..

Edited by Sakura~, 20 June 2014 - 11:10 PM.

[Dalton.T.R]

Hinata's neither. She's not designed as an Mary Sue inverse and she isn't significant to really fit other.

I'm also confused as to the source of irritation. Is it the poster for saying or at people for feeling that way?

Because if it's the former, I don't see what's so offensive about that post. theScrappy is about fandom perception and that post talks about fandom perception. There are people who dislike her for those reasons. That post does not deal with the legitimacy of the dislike.

Finally, the "but Hinata sucks too" isn't a defense. If you prove she does that is all you proven. That Hinata is a crappy character does not prove Sakura has worth.

Sakura: Skilled medical ninja, not from a super powerful clan with their own unique jutsu and doesn't have an evil spirit inside her yet is the strongest female from the Rookie 9, can destroy mountains with her fists, has worked her hardest to get where she is now, cares for those around her, selfless, intelligent, confident, was the first to take down a member of the Akatsukie and the only one who could cure Sasori's poison.

 

Hinata: Stalker, only cares about Naruto, is only concerned about Naruto, selfish, little confidence, has no character development, has achieved virtually nothing in the entire manga.

 

Tell me again how Hinata is not a crappy character and Sakura has no worth because I don't think I heard you very clear the first time.

[Nate River]

Sakura: Skilled medical ninja, not from a super powerful clan with their own unique jutsu and doesn't have an evil spirit inside her yet is the strongest female from the Rookie 9, can destroy mountains with her fists, has worked her hardest to get where she is now, cares for those around her, selfless, intelligent, confident, was the first to take down a member of the Akatsukie and the only one who could cure Sasori's poison.
 
Hinata: Stalker, only cares about Naruto, is only concerned about Naruto, selfish, little confidence, has no character development, has achieved virtually nothing in the entire manga.
 
Tell me again how Hinata is not a crappy character and Sakura has no worth because I don't think I heard you very clear the first time.

I said neither of those things.

My point is that even if you prove that Hinata is the worst character ever created how is that proof Sakura is a good one? Saying Hinata sucks in response to a Sakura sucks argument is a weak counter because it doesn't address the argument.

[luffyq1]

Sakura: Skilled medical ninja, not from a super powerful clan with their own unique jutsu and doesn't have an evil spirit inside her yet is the strongest female from the Rookie 9, can destroy mountains with her fists, has worked her hardest to get where she is now, cares for those around her, selfless, intelligent, confident, was the first to take down a member of the Akatsukie and the only one who could cure Sasori's poison.

 

Hinata: Stalker, only cares about Naruto, is only concerned about Naruto, selfish, little confidence, has no character development, has achieved virtually nothing in the entire manga.

 

Tell me again how Hinata is not a crappy character and Sakura has no worth because I don't think I heard you very clear the first time.

Listing pros/cons about Hinata doesn't evaluate Sakura's character, rather the merits you've just listed is all the examples you need. That's what I think he meant.

Edited by luffyq1, 20 June 2014 - 10:10 PM.

[Sakura~]

Still waiting for NH to be officially killed off like SS was back in 675 though its likely been dead for a while now anyway since apparently even the 3rd databook refers to Sakura's love for Sasuke in the past tense.

I'm still waiting as well.  NH is still going strong in my opinion (don't bite) 

Edited by Sakura~, 20 June 2014 - 10:14 PM.

[AHK]

I'm still waiting as well.  NH is still going strong in my opinion (don't bite)

I'm gonna bite...

[Nostradamus]

I'm still waiting as well.  NH is still going strong in my opinion (don't bite) 

Yea NH is going strong these days. It's so strong that Hinata smacked her face into the ground.

[Sakura~]

Say what you want. NH is a threat to me

[FireFox]

No need to get to get testy those were actual complaints.

Although after that scene with Naruto she did intend to back when she questioned Menma about where Tobi is right after that scene.

Yes  that was an actual complaint by you not what others say that is why i responded to you , you didn't specify that this was said by others .

 

The fact is you described her as selfish and her wanting to leave was because of "Sasuke" and that was false and my intent was to show that nothing more nothing less .

 

She only stated that the real heroes aren't in this world but in the other one ( referring to Minato & Kushina in here with holding the 4-th hokage cloak ) in this scene when she says this also Naruto realizes that ,  this is why when she went to meet with Naruto she brought that cloak to point that out to him to remind him of the real heroes his parents that all of this is false and its not the reality because she realized this but because Naruto said that he was "kinda" happy she didn't had the hart to do that . So again i don't see anything wrong on Sakura's part in here what she did was right and she wasn't selfish at all .  

[Nostradamus]

Say what you want. NH is a threat to me

Not for me. I never saw NH as a threat.