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#21801 rocci

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:18 AM

@rikarim
Sakura is the heroine.
People deem kishi failed on sakura because there are no action scene after save gara arc, despite that she fight boss equivalent of that arc.
It's like nami fight crocodile with the help of the old mermaid and win.

I think that's because the different of battle system.
Kishi doesn't use the boss, mini boss, and henchmen system that allowing other character to shine.

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Poal stand for promise of a lifetime.

Edited by rocci, 20 June 2014 - 06:19 AM.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:25 AM

@rocci Thanks!


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:33 AM

I'm sorry, what are we referring to again when we say POAL? :confused:

Promise of a Lifetime .

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I wish I could have the powers of Superman so I could save protect the world under God's will.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:33 AM

I'm sorry, what are we referring to again when we say POAL? :confused:

Promise of a Lifetime .

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I wish I could have the powers of Superman so I could save protect the world under God's will.

Always have the spirit and the guts to never ever give up no matter what.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:33 AM

I still get a good chuckle out of this. lol Jessi's the best anti Hinata fan.

 

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:41 AM

I still get a good chuckle out of this. lol Jessi's the best anti Hinata fan.
 
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can you explain this to me ? Was this made ?

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 07:25 AM

I think that because a shonen manga has definition of hero as a super human who saves everyone in the greatest battles and has great power, this confussed people about Sakura as heroin

but the definition of hero is much broader and deeper:

 

 

Hero definition:

 

1. a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.

2. a person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal: He was a local hero when he saved the drowning child. 
3. the principal male character in a story, play, film, etc.

 

Classical Mythology .

a). a being of godlike prowess and beneficence who often came to be honored as a divinity.
b). (in the Homeric period) a warrior-chieftain of special strength, courage, or ability.
c. (in later antiquity) an immortal being; demigod.

 

 
Definitions 1 and 2 fit well with Sakura, in 1 Sakura has always shown courage in spite of not having sufficient strength, has ran skill as a medical and she has noble qualities to save many people from his village and others, and in 2 In fact Sakura defeats one of the invocations of Pain and save a little girl.
 
Definition 3 and clasical mythology fit well with Naruto in a Shounen manga in my opinion except in "inmortal part" xD
 
 
 
 

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:58 AM

I still get a good chuckle out of this. lol Jessi's the best anti Hinata fan.

 

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It also means that Kishi said "No, whatever you said for a spotlight. I won't promote you of your rank and make two heroines here. So then Hinata, :wave: ".


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 09:32 AM

 

LOL guys, did you went on the website, she's not on THIS poster, but she's on the official picture of the bus and on the website. 

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Why would it be made during the summit Arc? The festival or whatever is ths year on the 9th, 10th, 11th od August. 

 

You ruined my day. :sad:


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 11:28 AM

You ruined my day. :sad:

There There Buddy I know exactly how you feel Ua0ykl4.gifI can't stand to see her face any longer either if only there was someone who can chop her head of and erase her existence  :sweatdrop: . Oh!!! Wait I got it  Does anyone have Sasuke's cell/phone number i need to tell him that what was written on the tablet was a lie and completely wrong and the truth is that "If he chop Hinata's head of he would save the world and the Uciha's" Yep that should definitely work :plots::woot:  


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 11:30 AM

You know what would be messed up? Obito wakes up and remember there was a girl that was very shy, but recall that she loved him. She moved on and married the guy and gave birth to, you guessed it, Hanabi and Hinata. Obito tells Naruto that there's always option and then dies. Naruto wants to end the war super fast to save Hinata. Sakura agrees somehow. Yeah!

Seriously, this chapter pretty much tells you why we with Naruto and Sasuke only for now. Otherwise, if Kakashi and Sakura was already participating, you'll just see Kaguya keep knocking them away as Zetsu tells his story. It will look goofy.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 11:40 AM

There There Buddy I know exactly how you feel Ua0ykl4.gifI can't stand to see her face any longer either if only there was someone who can chop her head of and erase her existence  :sweatdrop: . Oh!!! Wait I got it  Does anyone have Sasuke's cell/phone number i need to tell him that what was written on the tablet was a lie and completely wrong and the truth is that "If he chop Hinata's head of he would save the world and the Uciha's" Yep that should definitely work :plots::woot:  

LOL XD.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 12:29 PM

There There Buddy I know exactly how you feel Ua0ykl4.gifI can't stand to see her face any longer either if only there was someone who can chop her head of and erase her existence  :sweatdrop: . Oh!!! Wait I got it  Does anyone have Sasuke's cell/phone number i need to tell him that what was written on the tablet was a lie and completely wrong and the truth is that "If he chop Hinata's head of he would save the world and the Uciha's" Yep that should definitely work :plots::woot:  

:lol:

You know talking about the latest chapter. I really want to know that did the Rikudou Sennin actually wrote on that tablet, what was the original text.

 

You know what would be messed up? Obito wakes up and remember there was a girl that was very shy, but recall that she loved him. She moved on and married the guy and gave birth to, you guessed it, Hanabi and Hinata. Obito tells Naruto that there's always option and then dies. Naruto wants to end the war super fast to save Hinata. Sakura agrees somehow. Yeah!

Seriously, this chapter pretty much tells you why we with Naruto and Sasuke only for now. Otherwise, if Kakashi and Sakura was already participating, you'll just see Kaguya keep knocking them away as Zetsu tells his story. It will look goofy.

Oh God. Now that would be a twist.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 12:54 PM

You ruined my day. :sad:

 

Why ? Because Hinata is on some poster or bus ? Please... :confused:  don't be ruined by those little things.


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 01:02 PM

Oh God. Now that would be a twist.

I think the original text is don't do moon eye because you'll kill everyone, not save them but Zetsu made it sound like dream can come true. It took a while but Madara took the bait because of his past. The funny thing is if he died by the time the war ended, this whole thing wouldn't happen, but once he found the tablet and got shoved by Senju and Uchiha, he basically said screw it.

As for the twist I mentioned, yeah, I think I will rage on that, because this one would be "oh now I remember" than "here's my story."

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 01:37 PM

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Kishi purposely hide naruto feeling for the entire part 2.
And develope more sakura to naruto. That's why it seem sakura the one who chase naruto & not the other way.
Naruto highest developement is poal.
Sakura highest developement is kage summit.
After that NS interaction take absent in war arc until minato comment.
That's why I make prediction about sakura > naruto moment follow by naruto > sakura moment.
Then resolution in naruto vs sasuke arc.
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It's 2014.


I was referring to the other one

@rikakim well her confession wasn't fake but the rest seems to be general consensus for the haters.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 02:16 PM

:lol:

You know talking about the latest chapter. I really want to know that did the Rikudou Sennin actually wrote on that tablet, what was the original text.

 

Oh God. Now that would be a twist.

What RS wrote is probably something about all connecting and understand one another and working together for achieving peace after all that is his Ninshu .

 

But also Didn't Madara said that what was written on the tablet was "If Two Opposite Forces/Powers Work Together There Would Be Peace/Happiness" the thing is this could also be interpreted as "If Senju and Uciha Work Together/Cooperate with one another not steal and combine that power into One" .

 

This is why i disagree that this chapter puts out the blame of  the  Uciha's and makes them "victims" even if they were "manipulated" , I mean how stupid/idiotic/retarded do you have to be to believe that this is the way to achieve peace or that putting all people under IT is the answer ?

 

For crying out loud even Naruto who we all can agree is not the brightest when it comes to deciphering things knows that this is complete and utter bullsh** and this is not peace but dictatorship . In the end the Uciha's chose to go this way even if it's the wrong one but they are to kittening stupid to realize this this chap IMO only made them look like the most stupidest/idiotic clan ever also its not like Indra wasn't all about power and trying to go that way even before BZ "tempted him" BZ only gave him another option and the fool took it and believed in it .

 

Also what about the Izanagi/Izanami thing were it was said that they were killing each other just to gain a spare eye so they can use that jutsu over and over and this has nothing to do with what was written on that tablet by BZ about the IT , not to mention that they go berserk when they loose someone they love . Itachi was right when he said that they are power hungry idiots that can't see past their clan and he did the right thing by erasing them .

 

All in All what i'm trying to say is that this in no way paints them as "the victims" or exclude them from anything even if they know that going this way is wrong they still accepted it and chose to go with "Peace Trough Power" this just paints them as insane/unstable and borderline stupid/idiots  its their fault that they choose this way the "Peace Trough Power Way" and it doesn't erase their "curse of hatred" .

 

Sorry about this LAP i just needed to vent for a bit from all this confusion that people made :sweatdrop: , still the Uciha's are unstable idiots and they are better of dead or put in some mental institution since there is no cure for their insanity and idiocy that is their nature  :glare:

I think the original text is don't do moon eye because you'll kill everyone, not save them but Zetsu made it sound like dream can come true. It took a while but Madara took the bait because of his past. The funny thing is if he died by the time the war ended, this whole thing wouldn't happen, but once he found the tablet and got shoved by Senju and Uchiha, he basically said screw it.

As for the twist I mentioned, yeah, I think I will rage on that, because this one would be "oh now I remember" than "here's my story."

But even so 4life even if the text said that by doing the IT everyone would be saved (of course this means taking people's free will and subdue them to this ) how stupid do you have to be to believe in those words ? That's just ridiculous . And if not for Madara there would have been someone else going this way . Even if BZ didn't alter the Tablet and didn't put the IT way there he would have went with the "Peace trough Power " option anyway , after all this was what Indra was originally doing even before the RS wrote that Tablet and the reason why he lost the battle of leadership . 


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 02:27 PM

Wonder how long the post-war epilogue will be

It would be great if it's multiple chapters after all the post-Buu arc epilogue in DBZ was like several chapters never understood why a lot of mangakas shove the epilogue in the second half of the final chapter after all sometimes it's fun just to get a view if how these characters when they aren't stressing on how to save the world.

I think that a large majority of why Sakura has so much hate is because despite always saying she's an honest and upfront girl, Kishi makes it super difficult to tell what she's thinking or where her true priorities lie. Like when people were calling Sakura selfish in the RTN film because she tried to escape the IT world right after learning that Naruto was happier in that world or the unfortunate timing of her wanting to leave right after finding out she wasn't the only girl Sasuke was interested making seem like that was her primary reason for staying.

Yes it's the haters but let's be honest half of it is Kishi's fault as well.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 02:50 PM

I do agree that's it's really hard to understand Sakura since Kishi hardly shows us her thoughts. To be honest she's more unpredictable than Naruto at this point and it's kind of funny how she is adopting the ways of Naruto. He slowly changed her and still is changing her. Part 1 Sakura was predictable but Part 2 Sakura is a walking maze.


 


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Posted 20 June 2014 - 02:51 PM

Wonder how long the post-war epilogue will be

It would be great if it's multiple chapters after all the post-Buu arc epilogue in DBZ was like several chapters never understood why a lot of mangakas shove the epilogue in the second half of the final chapter after all sometimes it's fun just to get a view if how these characters when they aren't stressing on how to save the world.

I think that a large majority of why Sakura has so much hate is because despite always saying she's an honest and upfront girl, Kishi makes it super difficult to tell what she's thinking or where her true priorities lie. Like when people were calling Sakura selfish in the RTN film because she tried to escape the IT world right after learning that Naruto was happier in that world or the unfortunate timing of her wanting to leave right after finding out she wasn't the only girl Sasuke was interested making seem like that was her primary reason for staying.

Yes it's the haters but let's be honest half of it is Kishi's fault as well.

First of all this is totally wrong  

 

1. Sakura wasn't trying to escape after she find out that Naruto was happier , she wanted to escape but after she saw how Happy he is she was wiling to stay if he's happy , that's why they have their talk when she asked him if he was happy and when Naruto said he kinda was she left i mean seriously dude how was she selfish in here  ?

 

2. And no she didn't decide to leave just because of "Sasuke" if you watched the movie you would know that she was already feeling lonely because there was nobody in her home "her parents" this why before she went out she ask herself if "Naruto felt the same way all this time" her seeing that Sasuke didn't give kitten about her even in here as in "I'm here for you" was just the icing on the cake . The main reason was her loneliness and because reality hit her because of her parents and her feeling lonely in her home not "Sasuke" .

 

Seriously dude i thought that this was simple and i don't see this as much as Kishi's fault as much as people misinterpreting  .     


Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 20 June 2014 - 02:55 PM.

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