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[TouKen4Life3g]

I think kishi said that he change the art style to be more realistic or gritty.
So I don't think he said that he change the art to suit the anime.

That's what I heard too. It was fine in the beginning. I will say that the art in part 2 does feel all in line. I don't know how to explain it but it just does. I feel like when colored it has small sense of the old art. Just small. If what they say is true, then that's something to believe.

[六道仙人]

@ns4life & rikudo
I still don't understand why they need to make naruto use kb before chapter 1? Is that necessary? I mean in Hinata confession episode, the filler flashback of naruto save Hinata from bully doesn't incorporate naruto performing kb and it doesn't happen in winter.

And the fact that the last is canon that full of contradiction with the original source(manga) make me questioning the series itself.

 

well... the screenplayer and the director admitted they didn't know naruto before the movie so it's legit. But Kishi corrected the script so even him must have forgotten everything   better the quality of the animation than that history's 

[RyohkiFan]

why would ns fans watch reviews by nh fans o.o?

Sawyer before never talked about pairings and he made fun of everyone and never used favoritism but that seemed to change when stuff for NH started appearing that I was shocked how much he changed

[Liu bie]

"Abandon all hope — Ye Who Enter Here"

 

Me's like Dante when I was joining to see the movie: But I didn't manage do it and I have abandoned the movie at the end. It's too much   

Death to Dante:  Dante your faith is decided everlasting damnation for your  sins.

[rocci]

That's what I heard too. It was fine in the beginning. I will say that the art in part 2 does feel all in line. I don't know how to explain it but it just does. I feel like when colored it has small sense of the old art. Just small. If what they say is true, then that's something to believe.

I like the art at the end of part 1 to beginning of part 2 before changing to "realistic" style. That's kishi peak of art.

[TouKen4Life3g]

@ns4life & rikudo
I still don't understand why they need to make naruto use kb before chapter 1? Is that necessary? I mean in Hinata confession episode, the filler flashback of naruto save Hinata from bully doesn't incorporate naruto performing kb and it doesn't happen in winter.

And the fact that the last is canon that full of contradiction with the original source(manga) make me questioning the series itself.

I got a lot to say about that scene, but in my LAP, I will.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I like the art at the end of part 1 to beginning of part 2 before changing to "realistic" style. That's kishi peak of art.

Agreed. It has more emotional display effect. Like I can buy into that. Now, a lot of things became static.

[Metalhead87]

I wonder if Kishimoto enjoyed his career as a mangaka? I ask because I also wonder how much longer it will last. Let's face it. We won't buy any of his stuff because he burned us so bad, and ruined his own series for reasons that still aren't 100% confirmed (or at least there is a degree of uncertainty floating around). The people satisfied with his crap aren't guaranteed to buy his stuff, because a lot of them were seemingly only interested in seeing Hinata get what she "deserved" or wanting to see Sakura and Sasuke get together. They may not even like his new stuff. People who were never interested in Naruto in the first place may not because he's the "Naruto guy" (which may grant him a cursory glance to see what he's doing now, but beyond that I don't know). He may grab a few people who are unfamiliar with his work, but for how long? People are fickle, and will drop a manga when it starts to lose interest to them, so chances are that a few of them will go over time too.

 

Things could even be bleak if he decides to redo the ending, or if this turns out to be part of some grandiose master plan. If he decides to redo the ending, he risks pissing off the people happy with what they've got, and there's no guarantee that we will invest in it because of all that he has done via the ending, movie, interviews etc. It would seem like a cash grab or a pity ending. If it's part of some grand troll and a true ending is incoming, the aforementioned risks happening also, and there would be additional hurt for putting people that obviously care about the characters, series and whatnot through this false ending when it really didn't need to happen in the first place.

 

For example, although I admit that I would like to see a revamped ending, where everything is corrected, it makes story sense and NaruSaku happens as was foreshadowed, is there a guarantee that I would buy it? No. He made me feel like an idiot, made me feel like I'd wasted my money, and made me regret investing in the series, it's characters and their trials and tribulations. I'm still disappointed and frustrated, and may be for some time should the thought of Naruto cross my mind, for all I know. Part of me is a little concerned (or rather, I should say "questions") that should such a thing happen, I'll crumble and say "all is forgiven", but I truthfully don't know what my reaction would be until/unless it happened/happens. I'd like to believe that I wouldn't bend quite so easily. 

 

I admit that I don't really know the ins and outs of being a mangaka, or how the manga industry works, but I don't imagine it being sunshine and lollipops for one Masashi Kishimoto in the not too distant future. I don't think it can be argued that he has put himself into a very difficult position.

Edited by Metalhead87, 28 January 2015 - 03:25 PM.

[trang95]

Really? As a person, he seems pretty cool. I used to watch his videos because he was funny. Though as a Naruto reviewer he's the same as Forneverworld. Terrible "reviewers" with personal biases that don't match up with what the manga tells us lol. They're both pretty despicable honestly. They're the epitome of the NH fandom with cameras :/ 

 

Right? Lol this is philosophy class all over again! 

He's not as crazy about the movie as Forneverworld (my gosh did he reacted pathetically). He's more a little- just a little- bit more neutral. At least he doesn't hail the movie as a masterpiece immediately. And I'm going to be honest: I doubt he will enjoy the movie, but he will hide his disappointment and pretend that it was mediocre movie.

[rocci]

 
well... the screenplayer and the director admitted they didn't know naruto before the movie so it's legit. But Kishi corrected the script so even him must have forgotten everything   better the quality of the animation than that history's 

Lol at kishi forget to put byakugan on the children.
So much for princess byakugan. The last is truly canonization of nh fanfiction.

Well good luck with your seinen kishi, hope you give a damn in seinen manga if not I will laugh at you. Seriously this guy make seinen smh.

[Atheck]

Whoever mentioned that 60% statistic of the anti-fandom going ahead and watching this film despite reservations, and probably the upcoming bas**** spawn movie as well, was right. 

[luffyq1]

Yeah, orneverworld is more open about his fanboy-ness. The dude was chanting "Hinata-samaaa" when he watched the trailer LOL,

i remember that kitten. almost threw up hearing him say that. typical hinata fanboy at its finest.

[rocci]

Agreed. It has more emotional display effect. Like I can buy into that. Now, a lot of things became static.

Even the comedy aspect become bland, all joke seem out of place. The only funny part in war arc come from tsuigetsu and his ancestor the 3rd mizukage.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Even the comedy aspect become bland, all joke seem out of place. The only funny part in war arc come from tsuigetsu and his ancestor the 3rd mizukage.

I do think the older jokes weren't his. He seemed to like pervert joke more than anything, which is odd. I remember people not liking Gai and Lee one because of the timing, which I agreed that it seems wrong.

[LuckyChi7]

So what's the topic of discussion regarding the movie now?

[TouKen4Life3g]

So what's the topic of discussion regarding the movie now?

Which part of the movie would you say, "people should not defend the story anymore." Mine is the shadow clone. I legit face palm, face down, and just play Ava Maria...at work.

[luffyq1]

Which part of the movie would you say, "people should not defend the story anymore." Mine is the shadow clone. I legit face palm, face down, and just play Ava Maria...at work.

not addressing hinata's feelings for two years. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

not addressing hinata's feelings for two years. 

You know, what was the reason for that in story wise, not that interview one. It just so happened that Hinata now wanted to make a scarf?

[Illnevergiveup3]

I think kishi said that he change the art style to be more realistic or gritty.
So I don't think he said that he change the art to suit the anime.

I seen it in an interview, when I find it, I'll post it in this thread.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I seen it in an interview, when I find it, I'll post it in this thread.

Please do so. And PM just in case.