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[TheFirstEvil100]

Imagine making Naruto into a RS for an ending.

 

GT has some decent ideas, but it did deliver pretty poor. The ending, I'll give them that. I found it pretty fitting, at least compare to DBZ. Who knew. The funny thing is I didn't understand why people hate the ending of DBZ. I actually went back and now I think about it, yeah, I can understand. I don't know if it was that bad but it was odd like it felt like we got a new saga coming and then, "Whoops. Almost made a new story. Time to end with Goku leaving once more." But I do like the music in GT, I'll give them that as well. DBZ always feel like I'm going to a church festival. It must be use of instruments.

Well it would be interesting but still wouldn't care don't trust what comes out from Naruto now.

 

Well not all the Music was bad depends what version of the music you hear as their are many dubs Bruce Faulconer music as I know that many fans do like the music that he made for DBZ, true some were a hit or miss but others like Piccolo was just so good and yes GT had good Music as well like the opening.

 

 

at least gt had some clever ideas like tuffle parasite, Ssj4, and the dragonballs becoming enemies, seriously what a brilliant idea now that i look back at it. the reset button as the final boss. way more original than making another god out of thin air or reviving an old enemy (even though they did that with android 17 but nothings perfect)

 

yeah its execution on some parts were mostly miss's. poor uub. the guy got sh at on. you can take him out and the story wouldn't change mostly. man was kid goku arrogant. like he was a completely new character by this point.

 

goten: hey trunks how bout some fusion?
goku: NO!

 

gohan: wait a second dad im coming with you

goku: NO!

 

pan: grandpa IM coming with you!

goku: ok

 

DAFAQ?!

 

I wish I knew what they made both films into arcs does not add much really but we see Gohan being a cool dad with Pan Videl shuting up Chi-chi on letting Pan be a fighter or what she wants, I think for me I want Super to make Pan a good fighter and a super Saiyan. Yes its pointless but the fact she would be the first female would be something at the least, the next arc is meant to be good from what I hear. I will say what I think of Super once its ended.

 

I can see why some hate the whole idea of gods that destory but makes sense in away as Kai's give life so need something to well kill like good and evil its all about make it tie together, but yeah it been pointless adding the films into arcs but its Japan so who knows.

 

plus I think Japan are not big fans of Gohan and well are Goku fans hence why Gohan is getting shiffted like he is but hey next Arc Piccolo gets a chance to shine.

[TouKen4Life3g]

He should have Kintama for risky writing. A lot of elements has been used up, so something different would help.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I like both versions of DBZ music. They got their own perks. DBZ is perhaps the only series that USA dub gave so much efforts while others is just business. From changing music to brand new dialogues (though the old ones have some laughable moments due to punchlines), they really put a lot of cares to it.

I remember how funny I felt when I heard Resurrection F soundtrack before seeing DBS and thought, "THIS IS THE FUTURE!!!" Yeah, it's what happens when you're used to old soundtrack for over 15 years. Lol.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Hiruzen and Jiraiya feeling guilty for not killing Orochimaru when they could have.

Naruto feeling guilty for not being able to stop Sasuke from leaving.

Sakura feeling guilty for having Naruto make the PoaL and seeing what it was doing to him.

Jiraiya feeling guilty for what became of Yahiko, Nagato, and Konan.

Kakashi feeling guilty for not being able to save Obito or Minato, and for not being able to "help" Sasuke.

 

You could also say Nagato feeling guilty for "letting" Yahiko die, even if he had no control in it. Ditto with his parents.

Edited by Bryon_Konoha_Ninja, 11 January 2016 - 06:00 PM.

[Catra]

well spidermans main drive is guilt because he failed his uncle ben. difference is spidey does it BETTER XD

Edited by Catra, 11 January 2016 - 06:15 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

well spidermans main drive is guilt because he failed his uncle ben

 

True, but Peter's turned that into strength as well, since it leads him to do what he can to save people when he remembered his uncle's words of "With great power comes great responsibility". Even when he tried to give up when it was too hard to be Spider-Man, he would still remember the lives he's helped saved as well as the lives he's touched, which leads him to be recognized as his universe's greatest hero.

In Naruto, it's way different 'cause the use of guilt in it stems from some stupid stuff sometimes out of the characters' control, like with Shikamaru when Asuma died. Assume he knew all of Hidan's powers; even if he did, he wouldn't have been able to stop him from using his curse Jutsu to kill Asuma.

[Bail o' Lies]

What lines were they then?

 

and not sure if this is true but my friend hears that both Naruto and Hinata will die? Benn off for a while so have no idea if they will if so I will love Hinata dying in a way that shows she is a loser.

They were the line that were a response to Sakura's speech about how girl can't stop loving their first crush, Naruto agrees and immediately start stating his devotion to hinata or something like that.

[TheFirstEvil100]

I like both versions of DBZ music. They got their own perks. DBZ is perhaps the only series that USA dub gave so much efforts while others is just business. From changing music to brand new dialogues (though the old ones have some laughable moments due to punchlines), they really put a lot of cares to it.

I remember how funny I felt when I heard Resurrection F soundtrack before seeing DBS and thought, "THIS IS THE FUTURE!!!" Yeah, it's what happens when you're used to old soundtrack for over 15 years. Lol.

That is true so many cool musid it has Kai not so much, as for the dialogues it was done in the 90's and just like at the 80's 70's and even 60's man that is funny its just as we see new things we laugh at the old but even old stuff beats the kitten from Naruto as all the stories we got had heart.

 

Must because we are getting old my sister kid said that I'm an old man and he liked the Music, and yes that is what he called me just you wait 4life till your niece and nephew call you old for their tatse in music. Its funny after all they are young around 6 and 5 another is 8 so yeah younger kids have an odd way of liking things that we may not.

 

They were the line that were a response to Sakura's speech about how girl can't stop loving their first crush, Naruto agrees and immediately start stating his devotion to hinata or something like that.

Well no wonder Jumko didn't want to say it I just feel sorry for Sakura's english voice actor who had to say it as she loves Sakura and hates the last, sadly I bet she will never want to do anime voice acting again I know if I was her I wouldn't.

Edited by TheFirstEvil100, 11 January 2016 - 08:13 PM.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Well it would be interesting but still wouldn't care don't trust what comes out from Naruto now.

 

Well not all the Music was bad depends what version of the music you hear as their are many dubs Bruce Faulconer music as I know that many fans do like the music that he made for DBZ, true some were a hit or miss but others like Piccolo was just so good and yes GT had good Music as well like the opening.

 

 

I wish I knew what they made both films into arcs does not add much really but we see Gohan being a cool dad with Pan Videl shuting up Chi-chi on letting Pan be a fighter or what she wants, I think for me I want Super to make Pan a good fighter and a super Saiyan. Yes its pointless but the fact she would be the first female would be something at the least, the next arc is meant to be good from what I hear. I will say what I think of Super once its ended.

 

I can see why some hate the whole idea of gods that destory but makes sense in away as Kai's give life so need something to well kill like good and evil its all about make it tie together, but yeah it been pointless adding the films into arcs but its Japan so who knows.

 

plus I think Japan are not big fans of Gohan and well are Goku fans hence why Gohan is getting shiffted like he is but hey next Arc Piccolo gets a chance to shine.

Yeah, the way Gohan is just totally jobbed in the Resurrection F part (alongside Frieza and even Tagoma becoming so freaking powerful in some of the shortest amount of time ever, but no reasonable explanation whatsoever) is one of the things that just keeps me from fully enjoying it. Even by DBZ standards, that kind of stuff was just too unbelievable when you consider what we had been shown before. Like Gohan, after only a year or so of not training, is suddenly not only unable to access his Ultimate form, but can also not even maintain his SSj form for more than a couple minutes or so (almost killing himself just to push out enough ki for Goku to lock onto so he could use Instant Transmission), and yet early on the Buu Arc, after seven years of not training, Gohan was still able to transform into SSj2 (which was also accessing his power, and was able to maintain it), even if, understandably, it was weaker than it was before because of that lack of training.

[Catra]

poor gohan. what a waste. first he has potential, then he reaches it, then he loses it, regains it then loses it again! i'll stick to this gohan thank you very much

Edited by Catra, 11 January 2016 - 11:57 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Yeah, the way Gohan is just totally jobbed in the Resurrection F part (alongside Frieza and even Tagoma becoming so freaking powerful in some of the shortest amount of time ever, but no reasonable explanation whatsoever) is one of the things that just keeps me from fully enjoying it. Even by DBZ standards, that kind of stuff was just too unbelievable when you consider what we had been shown before. Like Gohan, after only a year or so of not training, is suddenly not only unable to access his Ultimate form, but can also not even maintain his SSj form for more than a couple minutes or so (almost killing himself just to push out enough ki for Goku to lock onto so he could use Instant Transmission), and yet early on the Buu Arc, after seven years of not training, Gohan was still able to transform into SSj2 (which was also accessing his power, and was able to maintain it), even if, understandably, it was weaker than it was before because of that lack of training.

I think its the head writer man I mean look at SP and their love for Hinata and hate for Sakura I think the studio doing super may not like Gohan that much or doing something to build him up many think he will get that chance on youtube, me not sure really as they are not telling much on super, still could be Gt where its all Goku and half only show up for one line like Tien or Piccolo.

[VanitasDS76491]

That is true so many cool musid it has Kai not so much, as for the dialogues it was done in the 90's and just like at the 80's 70's and even 60's man that is funny its just as we see new things we laugh at the old but even old stuff beats the kitten from Naruto as all the stories we got had heart.

 

Must because we are getting old my sister kid said that I'm an old man and he liked the Music, and yes that is what he called me just you wait 4life till your niece and nephew call you old for their tatse in music. Its funny after all they are young around 6 and 5 another is 8 so yeah younger kids have an odd way of liking things that we may not.

 

Well no wonder Jumko didn't want to say it I just feel sorry for Sakura's english voice actor who had to say it as she loves Sakura and hates the last, sadly I bet she will never want to do anime voice acting again I know if I was her I wouldn't.

You mean Kate Higgins hates the last too that's great if it's true no offense if isn't. She is one of my favorite female voice actors next to Wedee Lee, Kari Whalgren, Laura Bailey, Michelle Ruff, Sakura is my second favorite role Kate Higgins has voiced number 1 being maybe CC from Code Geass. Also I think Taka keeps asking When Broly you think he will voice Broly. I also agree with Taka that Broly is the most overrated DBZ villain.

 

[VanitasDS76491]

 

True, but Peter's turned that into strength as well, since it leads him to do what he can to save people when he remembered his uncle's words of "With great power comes great responsibility". Even when he tried to give up when it was too hard to be Spider-Man, he would still remember the lives he's helped saved as well as the lives he's touched, which leads him to be recognized as his universe's greatest hero.

In Naruto, it's way different 'cause the use of guilt in it stems from some stupid stuff sometimes out of the characters' control, like with Shikamaru when Asuma died. Assume he knew all of Hidan's powers; even if he did, he wouldn't have been able to stop him from using his curse Jutsu to kill Asuma.

 

Til One more Day happened and killed Spiderman. But still Spiderman did something good with his power and I think Naruto never hear that spiderman quote or the Spock quote in Star Trek II: The  Wrath of Khan " The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the few" an apt motif of how bad Naruto got toward the end. You if Spock tried to make sense of this his head would explode?
 

[Catra]

spidey's still more relatable though because even if he has super powers it doesn't make him or his friends invincible.

[LuckyChi7]

Well my cousin and I were having a conversation Naruto and transformers,  and you had to pick you're poison in watching either The Last or Transformers Age of Extinction?  and who is the better at what they do,  Masashi Kishimoto or Michael Bay?

 

 

To answer the first question, we both agreed that We'd rather go through the dreaded excess filth paced Age of Extinction then The Last.

 

 

To answer the second question, we got stuck on for a while before rememebering that Michael Bay made some fun entertaining movies like Armageddon, Bad Boys,  The first live action Transformers, and other movies (outside of the transformers sequel).

[Bail o' Lies]

Well my cousin and I were having a conversation Naruto and transformers,  and you had to pick you're poison in watching either The Last or Transformers Age of Extinction?  and who is the better at what they do,  Masashi Kishimoto or Michael Bay?

 

 

To answer the first question, we both agreed that We'd rather go through the dreaded excess filth paced Age of Extinction then The Last.

 

 

To answer the second question, we got stuck on for a while before remembering that Michael Bay made some fun entertaining movies like Armageddon, Bad Boys,  The first live action Transformers, and other movies (outside of the transformers sequel).

Michael Bay.Transformer will still go on no matter how bad you think his movies are. The Last has help lead to the decline and eventual fall of the Naruto franchise.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 12 January 2016 - 04:22 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just in case you don't know:

New ending this Thursday that features a specific character (a dollar on Hinata) and an opening to change the character in the end, because in case if you haven't watch, they switch from Naruto to Sasuke back-to-back.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Well my cousin and I were having a conversation Naruto and transformers,  and you had to pick you're poison in watching either The Last or Transformers Age of Extinction?  and who is the better at what they do,  Masashi Kishimoto or Michael Bay?

 

 

To answer the first question, we both agreed that We'd rather go through the dreaded excess filth paced Age of Extinction then The Last.

 

 

To answer the second question, we got stuck on for a while before rememebering that Michael Bay made some fun entertaining movies like Armageddon, Bad Boys,  The first live action Transformers, and other movies (outside of the transformers sequel).

No question, Age of Extinction.

At least I'm able to turn off my brain and simply enjoy watching the (robot) characters and I actually did like that Optimus had lost his hope in humanity after all that's happened because it made him a bit more realistic as a character, and at least Cade actually got deeper into the action with actually fighting with that blaster or fighting the CIA agents rather than simply always running away or standing off the side, yelling names.

The Last? Even the brain-dead would not be able to ignore the travesties that take place in it.

[VanitasDS76491]

No question, Age of Extinction.

At least I'm able to turn off my brain and simply enjoy watching the (robot) characters and I actually did like that Optimus had lost his hope in humanity after all that's happened because it made him a bit more realistic as a character, and at least Cade actually got deeper into the action with actually fighting with that blaster or fighting the CIA agents rather than simply always running away or standing off the side, yelling names.

The Last? Even the brain-dead would not be able to ignore the travesties that take place in it.

Ya i'm going with Age of Extinction hell i'll Dark of the Moon over the Last at least Age and Dark there is some entertainment with them. Optimus and Cade were the best parts of Age of Extimction and Hound was pretty cool but i'm still prefer Ironhide. I'd even take Plan 9 form Outer Space over the Last. I want to see an MST3K version of the last and bolt. 

[Catra]

i enjoyed age of extinction more the other transformers sequels. at least here they SORT OF tried. optimus actually has an arc!!! Marky mark is a way more likable protagonist than shia's sam. When optimus got mad over ratchet, you felt for him. holy ship this movie got an emotion out of me that wasn't "i dont care. im bored."

 

were the daughter and boyfriend annoying? to an extent. but they were plot devices more than characters.

 

you could tell which bot was which and their characters showed despite being stereotypes (werent the og transformers stereotypes as well? i didn't watch g1, i grew up with beast wars) they even looked smoother and not just some clobbered messy blocks of parts you cant make out

 

the villain is someone megatron/galvatron WISHES he was. threatening, badass. had a longer lasting appearance unlike megatron who appeared in the 3rd act of the first movie, he wasn't someones lacky where he bowed (revenge of the fallen) or was someones b*** (dark of the moon). he's a bounty hunter who gets paid for killing.

 

and last but not least, the father and optimus's stories were the same. both tried the best they could for what they cared about (cade for his daughter, optimus for the earth) and they didn't get that much in return. cade and optimus could relate to eachother. their moment together though super short, was touching.

 

oh and the dinobots were every inner 12 year old boys wet dream you couldn't help but tear up. it was beautiful and worth it despite being short XD

Edited by Catra, 12 January 2016 - 07:51 PM.