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#21621 Syn11

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 10:23 PM

Do you want an amusing story? Two days ago I had a discussion with one of my fellow Russian bloggers. We concluded that the recent chapters had been sort of demoralizing for Sakura fans. I added that there was some emotional progress, nevertheless, and in response got a classic barrage of arguments mainly stating that Sakura was no good and made it hard for Sasuke and Naruto. My facepalm followed, and I told the guy (who's quite bright, by the way) that I got already tired of this lopsided thinking because it always ends in "No matter what Sakura does, she does it wrong".  He vehemently objected saying that Sakura proved to be awesome in the fight with Sasori. I laughed and explained to my interlocutor that there were a lot of people who would claim otherwise. And you know what, right there and then a new face joined in and began bashing Sakura depreciating her role in defeating Sasori. I loled and wished my friend good luck on the battlefield. The war is hopeless, mostly because even our comrades tend to be too narrow-minded and categorical in their outlook. Sorry, but I have been witnessing everywhere this particular cluster of fans. Sometimes it gets annoying. And there's an epithet to decribe them - half-missing nins.  


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Posted 17 June 2014 - 10:37 PM

Okay I have been reading about this damn 540 stuff again and Naruto just being a Sliver medal, well to me its just utter BS in my eyes I mean its like is real life at times or at least from what my friend has said about a relationship he saw when the girl was treated like dirt, you know what she left him and found someone better, someone that would treat her right.

 

And this is what happens in real relationships you find that you don't always pick the right person, so you move on and find someone that is better and this is what is going on with Sakura right now I mean what you want her to get the Sh*** beat out her by Sasuke for him to punch her face brake her arm so she knows this guy is not right for her, Sakura is finding all of this out now and when, when Sasuke and Naruto have their fight and they will that is when she will pick Naruto.

 

I mean it like James said if Kishi had her feelings known then NS would be canon and all the Hinata fans (Won't call them NH fans as they only care for Hinata) would have dropped it since Hinata didn't and I quote as they NH fans say *Hinata didn't get her man.*



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Posted 17 June 2014 - 11:23 PM

39438433245345 chapters later and we still stuck on 540. I mean COME ON!

This was funny as hell.

 

540 ain't no threat but I can see why some people is bothered by it , Kishi shouldn't have showed Sasuke period in her thoughts and then if could have left readers thinking , "Naruto or Sasuke? Who is she thinking about?"

I always thought Kishi should of never introduce that scene in the first place since that scene increased Sakura hate tenfold, for Sakura haters and other pairing fans is just gave them more reasons to believe that confession was false.

 

 

Just Pepsi confusion expands :sweat:, actually although we all have different opinions but they are never on that level of confusion, I think that he need to read more carefully the manga and not enter in paronia xD well I think  that he has a lot to learn about women, we are more complicated than he imagines.

We all wanted to help Pepsi but he not cares to read the suspicious seems get his mind locked, only Kishimoto is able to remove the uncertainty in the next chapters but as I see Pepsi may never change his mind, I think it has been manipulated by external reviews, and that leaves not quiet

I also think this forum is a great place to express all that we love this paring and atmosphere of these past two weeks has been affected by very personal opinions that down our mood, but do not let that affect us all, actually I see the manga on the right track so far, and the last chapters I liked a lot.

Women s will always e a mastery to me and when you think that you're playing them for a full most of them already figure you out way before you even notice it.

 

I think you need to cut down on the Pepsi and start drinking more Sprite . Sprite show you the real kitten . Sprite makes you see underneath the underneath .

Men you want to kill this young men? Sprite is also not good he needs some water and in some case some tea.  :chuckle:



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:20 AM

Okay I have been reading about this damn 540 stuff again and Naruto just being a Sliver medal, well to me its just utter BS in my eyes I mean its like is real life at times or at least from what my friend has said about a relationship he saw when the girl was treated like dirt, you know what she left him and found someone better, someone that would treat her right.
 
And this is what happens in real relationships you find that you don't always pick the right person, so you move on and find someone that is better and this is what is going on with Sakura right now I mean what you want her to get the Sh*** beat out her by Sasuke for him to punch her face brake her arm so she knows this guy is not right for her, Sakura is finding all of this out now and when, when Sasuke and Naruto have their fight and they will that is when she will pick Naruto.
 
I mean it like James said if Kishi had her feelings known then NS would be canon and all the Hinata fans (Won't call them NH fans as they only care for Hinata) would have dropped it since Hinata didn't and I quote as they NH fans say *Hinata didn't get her man.*


Kishi can make an NS sex scene and give them a family at the end it still wouldn't affect NH's confidence. Waiting for 700+ series to make a pairing that's been around since chapter 3 canon at the very end just to pocket some more dough from the losing pairings is a pretty douchey thing to do and makes him miss out on focusing how to make it interesting as oppose to giving it opposing fandom so that claw each other

Sorry but 540 was unnecessary and damaged SS for not becoming canon while damaging NS because it will become canon

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:20 AM

Even with the words from that interview... I, personally explained it in the context of the manga around the forum several times until I got tired. It's just that some people simply don't get past their own interpretation so then,why bother explaining again and again and again?

 

Thanks for the point, Chatte. I think I'll stop from explaining all the obvious logic to those that become too fixated with their position and won't take time to think out of the box. It will be such a waste of time to do so in the first place. It's better if I focus in a more constructive conversations & debate.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:24 AM

Thanks for the point, Chatte. I think I'll stop from explaining all the obvious logic to those that become too fixated with their position and won't take time to look out of the box. It will be such a waste of time to do so in the first place. It's better if I focus in a more constructive conversations & debate.


I don't even know what box you're referring to. I'm not loyal to any argument I make I just have yet to hear an argument that contradicts it.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:32 AM

I don't even have a strength anymore to explain what a metaphor is. That's it, I concede to argue with you.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 12:53 AM

I don't even know what box you're referring to. I'm not loyal to any argument I make I just have yet to hear an argument that contradicts it.

The reason why I will not try to contradict what you said is because many readers dislike NS and Sakura for the same reason, people usually don't tent to judge NS because of Naruto most of the displease from females and males readers are because of Sakura so I will not try or even waste my time trying to change their opinions unless they are using false statement or they just keep bashing Sakura on this site every chance they get.

 

But what I definitely disagree with you for and is not just now I felt this way for months it's because despite your frustration something everyone is allow to enter at any giving time you tend to abuse of that frustration and just make the environment  more negative each time you post.

I wasn't able to fallow the topic and give my thoughts when I was working but I could read many of your post and most if not all were negative, but now that am currently on vacations who by the way happen to end in 5 days I'been able to see how you spread your negativism even more, like I say everyone is entitle to their own opinion but when a person just keep pushing his disappointment on others repeatedly for months then that becomes a problem for everyone else.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:08 AM

I don't even know what box you're referring to. I'm not loyal to any argument I make I just have yet to hear an argument that contradicts it.


What argument are we supposed to be trying to counter?

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:09 AM

She went to kill Sasuke, but she didnt, when she arrived she showed she was still evaluating a plan to kill him, she was still asking for asnwers if Sasuke was really evil and she only truly decided to kill him after Sasuke demanded her to kill Karin to prove her loyalty.
 
If she truly wanted to kill Sasuke from the very begining she would have taken her friends with her, or made a better plan, i believe deep inside she wanted to convince Sasuke to stop and come back to the village and if she fails she would kill him with the poison which indeed makes sense, to poison Sasuke she would have to attack him in an vulnerable occasion but she needed a reason which was Sasuke being evil.
She would not simply arrive there to kill him.
 
She knew it would not work but she did it anyway and it's said by Sai and mostly important Naruto did the same by asking the raikage to pardon Sasuke despite knowing it was useless.
She wanted ot give a chance to that plan because it's easiest to her.
SHe knew she would not had guts to kill Sasuke as she pointed out by herself.
 
She's smart but she's not smart when feelings are involved, she was desperate and it's reasonable she would take any plan even it fails and the two plans would fail since the begining due to the lack of thinking.
 
You're assuming that she would be capable of killing him, it's proved that she knew it would not work when she tried to stab Sasuke, she said "i knew i could not do it".
Her plan was ridiculous not simple, Sasuke was immune and Kakashi realized that just with the assumption that he worked with Orochimaru, the fact that Sakura didnt realized this shows that she wasnt on her right mind.
I dont even need to point out that she never killed anyone on her ninja career.

Oh boy here we go again. Like I previously said Sakura's plan to kill Sasuke was simple, easy and actually smart. However it had two faults, the first is that Sasuke was going to kill her regardless if she was going with him or not, and secondly she's like Naruto, she can't do what is necessary, which is to kill Sasuke.

Her plan to kill Sasuke in case you can't figure it out, which you can't. Wasn't to kill Sasuke immediately, it was to lower his guard, get his trust and then take advantage of that and then use the poison kunai.

If Sakura was going to take Sai, Kiba and Lee with her, they would've been killed by Sasuke. The only reason they're still alive is because of Sakura.

Even if they would've attacked Sasuke at the same time with the greatest teamwork ever seen and the greatest strategy ever made; Sasuke would've eliminated them with ease.

Sasuke gets his ass handed to him easily. But not by Sai, Sakura, Kiba and Lee.

 

You criticized Sakura's plan from 469-486 exactly like you criticized Sakura's plan against Madara. Both times the plan was good.

Going from what you said so far a good plan is actually a stupid plan, and a stupid plan is actually a good plan.

 

In both situations Sakura did the correct move. The outcome is the problem.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:23 AM

When smart people in naruto make a plan and execute it, usually the out come doesn't like what they expect.

Itachi and minato suffer it, so does sakura.
If sakura succed in killing sasuke, then naruto will hate sakura and only her.
People say that sakura will accept sasuke when she know about the itachi truth. Well kakashi know it too and still intend to kill him.


Sasuke will redeem because he doesn't cross that line, yet.

Just my opinion.

Exactly almost every single time the good guys have a brilliant plan it ends in a bad way for different reasons. And it's never because the plan sucked. Also Sakura wanted Naruto to hate her and only her, the entire time she was only thinking about Naruto. Even to this day it amazes me that people believe Sakura was only thinking about Sasuke when she did was she did.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:30 AM

I don't even have a strength anymore to explain what a metaphor is. That's it, I concede to argue with you.


That was a joke.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:40 AM

In both situations Sakura did the correct move. The outcome is the problem.

 

That's a debatable statement.The move can't be correct if it backfires in such a blatant fashion. A good plan presupposes a flexible scheme which takes into account many variables including those unknown ones. Sakura had underestimated Sasuke and overestimated herself (mainly her resolve). Moreover, the execution of her coarse plan was horribly implemented. And it could have resulted in her meaningless death... on two occasions. Actually, if she had acted with solid determination and gone all out, she would have been lucky to kill someone like Sasuke by sacrificing her own life. Well, it doesn't really matter. Any plan is doomed to fail if you're not emotionally prepared  to follow through with it.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:42 AM

Exactly almost every single time the good guys have a brilliant plan it ends in a bad way for different reasons. And it's never because the plan sucked. Also Sakura wanted Naruto to hate her and only her, the entire time she was only thinking about Naruto. Even to this day it amazes me that people believe Sakura was only thinking about Sasuke when she did was she did.

When it comes to pairing things it stop surprising me a long time ago.

Some use an ASS moment and turn them in to pro SS or try to justify murder and not caring for a character.

While other will say stuff like Naruto hates Sakura, he doesn't love her anymore or Naruto already move on from Sakura and now loves Hinata.

Lastly they are quick to judge any event between NS and some still use the girlfriend as in a girl that is a friend as an argument.


Edited by Don-kun, 18 June 2014 - 01:45 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:49 AM

That was a joke.

It is? My apologies if I am not laughing for it.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 01:54 AM

When it comes to pairing things it stop surprising me a long time ago.

Some use an ASS moment and turn them in to pro SS or try to justify murder and not caring for a character.

While other will say stuff like Naruto hates Sakura, he doesn't love her anymore or Naruto already move on from Sakura and now loves Hinata.

Lastly they are quick to judge any event between NS and some still use the girlfriend as in a girl that is a friend as an argument.

I know I've seen almost every argument out there. Most recent one is that Sasuke actually saved both Sakura and Kakashi because he truly cares about them, and what he said in the previous chapter is because he doesn't really what to admit it. He's hiding his true feelings.

I swear if we ever see Sasuke cutting Sakura's head off, people will still find a way to turn it into a positive way.


Edited by Nostradamus, 18 June 2014 - 01:54 AM.

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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:07 AM

I know I've seen almost every argument out there. Most recent one is that Sasuke actually saved both Sakura and Kakashi because he truly cares about them, and what he said in the previous chapter is because he doesn't really what to admit it. He's hiding his true feelings.

 

 

I swear if we ever see Sasuke cutting Sakura's head off, people will still find a way to turn it into a positive way.

So what's the point of having Sasuke insult Sakura the way he does, they want to call him Tsundare but like all Tsundares when teased about someone they like they will say something mean to deflect the accusation but Sasuke was never teased, he was never provoked by anyone he just insulted her for no damn reason so how that can be translated to Sasuke loving her, this just shows SS as a terrible reading comprehension.

 

 

Sasuke knows Sakura can use regeneration to put her body back together, believe it or not I actually saw a SS shipper using this as an legit argument.


Edited by Don-kun, 18 June 2014 - 04:16 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:08 AM

She is a pairing fodder. So you're telling me she doesn't want to be paired up with Naruto anymore? I'm sorry, but are we even reading the same manga anymore? What do you mean she doesn't want to be with Naruto anymore? Since when did she stop wanting to be with him? We already saw what was in her dream, and it was of her leaning on Naruto on a bench that had a romantic atmosphere. She clearly wants to be paired up with Naruto and for you to deny that is just baffling.
 
The part of her story that involved wanting acknowledgement from others is all but gone down the drain. Haven't you heard? This girl has a one track mind, nothing else matters to her it seems. Her character does revolve around Naruto because when ever this single minded character appears on panel it's nothing but Naruto. You're right, she does want to improve herself and she has. But the improvement is so insignificant that's it's laughable. The constant thoughts about Naruto, the never ending pursuit of wanting to be by him forever, all of that stuff comes out as being desperate for the D. It certainly doesn't come off as wanting to earn it, but more as forcing it. Her thoughts are assertive, and that's no surprise since she's a selfish character, intentional or not.

 

She isn't a pairing fodder. She doesn't want to be paired up with everyone. But if she did, she would choose Naruto, and only Naruto. This doesn't mean that they are going to be paired with each other in the manga, it just means that she has feelings for him. I didn't mean that she doesn't want to be with Naruto anymore. Her wanting to be with Naruto was always there, because of how much he affected her life in a drastic way (which involved trying to get acknowledgement from others). Not for shallow reasons like his looks, or his coolness. When she loves, she really means it, because she looks at what she sees inside not outside. (Even though she didn't know him very well, she could see that he had a lot of potential). She's always believed in him, because she's his role model. That turned into a deep admiration, that she labels as love. At this point in the manga (since she confessed and all that) she does want to have the chance to have a romantic relationship with him. (Even though it's all in her head xD)

 

But she's not pushing herself on to him. She's waiting for an answer. And whatever the answer is, she won't let it bother her, because she's an understanding person. Hinata may not have developed well in the series, but she DOES try hard. And her love for Naruto doesn't change that part about her, in fact, it usually strengthens it. And even if Naruto doesn't love her back, she will still feel for him, and who knows? Maybe she'll get to know him more as a person. So no, she's not desperate about him. She just loves him. She's not forcing anything, so that's just plain false. Her love for him isn't shallow, and when it is selfish, it is unintentional, because she's doing it out of care for him.

 

Just like when Sakura gave that fake confession to Naruto. She didn't mean to hurt him, or make problems worse, she did it out of concern for Naruto's safety and happiness. She was desperate and hurt, and she wanted to make things better. This doesn't make her a bad person, it just means she didn't make a very good choice. 

 

She isn't a selfish character at heart, she cares about a lot of people in her life. She loves Naruto, but it doesn't rule her entire life. Just because Hinata thinks about Naruto a lot, doesn't mean she's a bad and selfish character who cares about no one but herself and Naruto getting together, because again, her love for Naruto doesn't stoop to that low level. She does have selflessness with other people in her life (probably a lot more than for Naruto even, since Naruto's barely ever there in her life). A lot of her character does revolve around Naruto in the manga, but she also does have a life outside of what is always shown. This can be easily inferred for ALL the characters - they all have their own lives. But this manga is about Naruto and his life, which is why Hinata's crush on Naruto is emphasized.

 

 

Again, are we reading the same manga? It's not just a a crush she has on Naruto because if it was than her obsession for him would be even more pathetic than it is now. And no, I'm not saying she doesn't have the right to think about him. But my god, she thinks about this guy in every panel she's on. Sakura used to think about Sasuke a lot in part 1, but now Naruto clearly takes precedence over Sasuke, that much is obvious.

 

Having a crush = loving them. I said that Hinata loves him (I dunno why I said lurrves~). I'm guessing that her love for Naruto bothers you a lot more than it should. I agree that it's dumb, but you can't stop her from feeling that way, when this is the guy that's indirectly helped her through a lot of her "issues". And yeah, Naruto means a lot more to Sakura than Sasuke does at this point.

 

...But seriously. I don't understand what's wrong with the females in this show.. Why begin to like a guy that's a douche half the time? And why like a guy you barely know, and don't even try to get to know?  -_-

 

 

That's good. But guess what? There are other things in Naruto's life outside of his feelings for Sakura, so it's not really all that surprising that he "doesn't rub the fact that he's soo in love with her every single second". Can't say the same for Hinata, because she's a Naruto clone that worships him.

 

True. Hinata does practically worship him. She's aware of other things in her life as well, but when it comes to Naruto, he takes up almost all her attention. Which is why her love for him, although it's true in her eyes, has a lot of flaws on the outside.

 

 

So now you're giving Hinata an excuse over the excessive thoughts of Naruto, which is like every panel she's on? Ok. There's a distance between them because instead of actually making an attempt to build a better relationship with him, she uses that time to have more thoughts of him. Shikamaru and Temari aren't even from the same village and look how close they are. Once again, Hinata has no excuses, and seeing you attempt to come up with some is not even funny anymore, it's just painful now.

 

What I meant by this, is that she doesn't have the ability in her to really interact with him as a person. She's too shy to do that. She's on the sidelines watching him most of the time. She spends her time fantasizing about him, because he's not really in her reach at all. And it seems, that's perfectly fine with her. She doesn't want to need a close relationship with him, to care about him a lot. If they were on the same team, her love for him would've been much truer because she'd get to know him more as a person. I'm not trying to make up an excuse for her thinking about Naruto all the time, I already told you that she thinks about him a lot because she loves/admires him a lot. But she's a background character, and she's not close to Naruto, like she wished she was. Thus: excessive thinking about him.

 

I'm not saying it's a good thing at all. She doesn't understand that to really love a person you do have to get to know them.

 

And Shikamaru and Temari don't have any insecurity or shyness issues. If I didn't mention it before, let me just say, that Hinata's character is flawed. She's working on it, but not doing a very good job on it. She still needs a good amount of confidence, if she wants to get anywhere. What I'm just saying is, that although she has these issues, she does have a selfless attitude towards everyone. And this is true.

 

 

Wow. Really? Look, I was really enjoying this little debate we were having, but if that's what you truly believe then there's really no point in furthering this discussion. I now know where you stand and you know where I stand, and it doesn't seem like neither of our words will sway our opinion on the matter. I concede.

 

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That really wasn't meant to be taken seriously  :glare: But Sakura's just... she's a girl centered around love. Her character started out as a girl who fangirled a lot about a guy. Then she became that heartbroken girl that soon falls in love with the guy who's always been there for him, and she's always been there for her. She's also had a ton of character development, but she's definitely a girl that's easy to pair up, because everyone loves her. She's strong, beautiful, confident... everything Hinata probably wishes to be lol

 

I really do see where you're coming from in your posts, but try and think about what I'm trying to convey here about Hinata as a whole character. Hinata does have the ability to be a great kunoichi. She has flaws, but she's very gentle and kind as a person, to everyone. She doesn't judge anyone, doesn't hold grudges on others. Sometimes she's a little too kind an forgiving, but that's just in her character. Hinata is better in plenty of ways than Sakura, but I'm not saying Sakura's character is worser than Hinata's. Not one bit. They're both two strong females, similar and different, and worthy of being really great in the future.

 

(Sakura's probably way better though.)

 

It's funny how we're arguing about a bunch of fictional characters so seriously..

But if you really wish not to continue the discussion, you don't have to reply.

Have a nice day  :happy:


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:18 AM

Totally random, but um...I keep hearing a lot about how Sakura has yet to be acknowledged by Sasuke. Wasn't she acknowledged by him already? Like... Twice? First time during the chunnin exams with the whole 'this isn't the true for level' thing. And the second shortly after the team 7 reunion. I don't exactly remember when; I think it was after Sakura punched out a bunch of Juubi clones. He smiled at her power. Seems like acknowledgement to me.
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Posted 18 June 2014 - 02:37 AM

Kishi can make an NS sex scene and give them a family at the end it still wouldn't affect NH's confidence. Waiting for 700+ series to make a pairing that's been around since chapter 3 canon at the very end just to pocket some more dough from the losing pairings is a pretty douchey thing to do and makes him miss out on focusing how to make it interesting as oppose to giving it opposing fandom so that claw each other

Sorry but 540 was unnecessary and damaged SS for not becoming canon while damaging NS because it will become canon

I understand this is a pairing site, but the focus of the manga isn't romance so I wouldn't expect pairings to play a big role in the story in the first place.


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