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[Strangelove]

back to Sakura x3

Water element + Wind element = Whirlpool , which is basically very significant in the story.

[Derock]

Actually, it will better to go back on topic of the NaruSaku debate.

All of the other talks like Sakura getting an element, about Sasuke, or anything other than the NaruSaku debates are not allowed and should be use in other topics.

[Strangelove]

Actually, it will better to go back on topic of the NaruSaku debate.

All of the other talks like Sakura getting an element, about Sasuke, or anything other than the NaruSaku debates are not allowed and should be use in other topics.

but but but...i used a NaruSaku thing. Naruto is wind remember...if Sakura is water then that would make a whirlpool which is significant in the story line.

[Lazy-Genius]

you heard him,he hates people "who lie to themselves",meaning sakura is weak

I think now naruto understand wat true loves mean after what hinata done for him. naruto really deserve a gal who truly loves him and clearly its Hinata

who would lie to a friend ??? only the stupid cow do such things

[sarcasm]um...yeah that makes sense[/sarcasm]

Right, because true love means doing one thing, then disappearing into the background......oh whoops, I forgot to put the sarcasm tag in there

Hm...let me think about that....how 'bout every human being on the planet? Seriously, lying is part of what makes humans human. Oh, I'm sorry that Sakura isn't perfect like every other character in the Naruto series. Right? She's the only one who makes mistakes? I mean, it's not like Sasuke went and nearly killed his best friend when he was just trying to help. 'Cause that's definitely not as bad as what Sakura did. *gasp* lying to protect a friend?! Blasphemy!

[Derock]

but but but...i used a NaruSaku thing. Naruto is wind remember...if Sakura is water then that would make a whirlpool which is significant in the story line.

Hmm.. alright.

[Miss Soupy]

I have a topic I guess I could post here instead of the chapter thread.

I was thinking about how the confession left a bad taste in my mouth, mostly because Sakura's words were just so horribly fake for half of it. So I wondered, why do Sakura's words suck so much?

To me it didn't make sense, not when she seemed to be preparing herself previously. I would expect, since this seems to be her plan, that she would have thought of better things to say than that..more trustworthy things and acted better. Why couldn't she then? She seemed confident enough that Lee and Kiba pointed it out while traveling with her. Why did it all fall apart? Most people believe it is due to her still harboring feelings, on whatever level, for Sasuke. I agree with this completely. However, I am not under any delusion that Sakura didn't already know she was conflicted. Once again I bring up the scene with Karui where all she could do was cry. Sakura is not so oblivious about her own emotions that she wouldn't understand why she felt pained enough to cry. That being said, I believe she should have known from the start of the plan that it would be difficult, that her heart was not where her mind was, but she was going to try anyways because, to her, it was the right thing to do. My point being, whatever her plan was, it should have been built based on this already foreseen difficulty she would have.

As we saw, when her plan played out, it didn't reach any kind of depth she was probably hoping for. Naruto realized from the very beginning that something was up. Sakura seemed kind of surprised at that fact too, meaning she honestly thought it would work. Now, either she just doesn't think Naruto is smart enough to catch on (which I find not to be the case given their closeness), or there was another problem that plagued her when she got down to the confession. What other difficulty could she face that might be obvious enough to be neglected in her planning? Perhaps that the scenario in your head usually won't match with the reality of the situation. Just from being with that person you are trying to persuade can cause emotional differences in your attitude and confidence.

The manga shows us that Sakura cares greatly for Naruto, even perhaps loves him. She also hates hurting him, as has been evident many times. Sakura should have realized that her plan, though the right path in her mind, would hurt Naruto because of his own bond with Sasuke. She is wagering that perhaps he too might have doubts about retrieving him, and that maybe he believes being with Sakura is a better route to take. But she knows she is conflicted, and knows she is being untrue as she begins her confession. And her words come out sounding horribly fake and she doesn't act very confident at all. I think, then, this is partially to blame because she just hates being untrue to Naruto, she hates having to lie to him. She cares about his feelings, and the whole thing just is wrong. But she has no back up plan, she doesn't know what else she can do. Sakura has to go through with what she decided, even while being right there in front of the person she must deceive is causing her to doubt. Thus, her wording is quite clearly horrid and most of it untrue. She can't even manage to persuade herself it is truly the right thing for her to seem very genuine at all. Being right there, seeing Naruto and holding him, while knowing deep down that you aren't being true...I think that caused a lot of Sakura's plan to fall apart.

[Zin]

I have a topic I guess I could post here instead of the chapter thread.

I was thinking about how the confession left a bad taste in my mouth, mostly because Sakura's words were just so horribly fake for half of it. So I wondered, why do Sakura's words suck so much?

To me it didn't make sense, not when she seemed to be preparing herself previously. I would expect, since this seems to be her plan, that she would have thought of better things to say than that..more trustworthy things and acted better. Why couldn't she then? She seemed confident enough that Lee and Kiba pointed it out while traveling with her. Why did it all fall apart? Most people believe it is due to her still harboring feelings, on whatever level, for Sasuke. I agree with this completely. However, I am not under any delusion that Sakura didn't already know she was conflicted. Once again I bring up the scene with Karui where all she could do was cry. Sakura is not so oblivious about her own emotions that she wouldn't understand why she felt pained enough to cry. That being said, I believe she should have known from the start of the plan that it would be difficult, that her heart was not where her mind was, but she was going to try anyways because, to her, it was the right thing to do. My point being, whatever her plan was, it should have been built based on this already foreseen difficulty she would have.

As we saw, when her plan played out, it didn't reach any kind of depth she was probably hoping for. Naruto realized from the very beginning that something was up. Sakura seemed kind of surprised at that fact too, meaning she honestly thought it would work. Now, either she just doesn't think Naruto is smart enough to catch on (which I find not to be the case given their closeness), or there was another problem that plagued her when she got down to the confession. What other difficulty could she face that might be obvious enough to be neglected in her planning? Perhaps that the scenario in your head usually won't match with the reality of the situation. Just from being with that person you are trying to persuade can cause emotional differences in your attitude and confidence.

The manga shows us that Sakura cares greatly for Naruto, even perhaps loves him. She also hates hurting him, as has been evident many times. Sakura should have realized that her plan, though the right path in her mind, would hurt Naruto because of his own bond with Sasuke. She is wagering that perhaps he too might have doubts about retrieving him, and that maybe he believes being with Sakura is a better route to take. But she knows she is conflicted, and knows she is being untrue as she begins her confession. And her words come out sounding horribly fake and she doesn't act very confident at all. I think, then, this is partially to blame because she just hates being untrue to Naruto, she hates having to lie to him. She cares about his feelings, and the whole thing just is wrong. But she has no back up plan, she doesn't know what else she can do. Sakura has to go through with what she decided, even while being right there in front of the person she must deceive is causing her to doubt. Thus, her wording is quite clearly horrid and most of it untrue. She can't even manage to persuade herself it is truly the right thing for her to seem very genuine at all. Being right there, seeing Naruto and holding him, while knowing deep down that you aren't being true...I think that caused a lot of Sakura's plan to fall apart.

I have to say I agree with you but....can't help thinking it's simply because Sakura's still in love with Sasuke and that's why the whole thing felt so incredibly fake. She hardly showed any emotion at all throughout that entire chapter, a little odd considering what exactly she was confessing. I dunno I just don't think this is gonna end well but, at the same time, I can't imagine Kishi just throwing away several hundred chapters of flushing out the narusaku relationship just to turn around and toss it to the gutter. *shrug* I guess we'll just have to wait and see who knows maybe Sakura just simply wasn't ready to take that step and she was trying to break it down into cold, hard logic so she'd even be able to do it. I imagine after telling Sasuke she loved him and being completely shut down a TRUE confession would've been too hard but who knows....

[Miss Soupy]

I have to say I agree with you but....can't help thinking it's simply because Sakura's still in love with Sasuke and that's why the whole thing felt so incredibly fake. She hardly showed any emotion at all throughout that entire chapter, a little odd considering what exactly she was confessing. I dunno I just don't think this is gonna end well but, at the same time, I can't imagine Kishi just throwing away several hundred chapters of flushing out the narusaku relationship just to turn around and toss it to the gutter. *shrug* I guess we'll just have to wait and see who knows maybe Sakura just simply wasn't ready to take that step and she was trying to break it down into cold, hard logic so she'd even be able to do it. I imagine after telling Sasuke she loved him and being completely shut down a TRUE confession would've been too hard but who knows....

Yeah, my idea is based upon the assumption that Sakura wasn't 100% lying to Naruto. If she was...then, to me, that just makes her a horrible manipulator. I can't really defend her if that's the truth :/ I have a hard time believing this to be the case because of all the NS development we have had. For the most part, it is seeming like Sakura didn't truly re-evaluate her feelings for Sasuke since they parted ways in part I. She decided she would get stronger to help Naruto, but ultimately the goal was to retrieve Sasuke, so perhaps she never thought she needed to reconsider how she felt. Now that the rookies have made this decision, she is forced, within a short amount of time, to make a decision that would change her life and Naruto's as well. She should have prepared herself for it, but apparently she didn't before now. So, since she never really thought about it, she hadn't encouraged herself like she did in this chapter to really forget about Sasuke. Basically, what we all assumed she was going through during the time-skip and part II (re-evaluating her feelings), she didn't do until just recently. Thus her heart isn't ready to accept it and she has to be fake. But the indication is there that she will be thinking along these lines and this can lead to her heart accepting reality as well. It will just take more time than we had anticipated, I suppose.

[Froot]

Okay, look, maybe Sakura does still love Sasuke, but whether she does or not, she still loves Naruto more. That much is evident. She was willing to abandon Sasuke for Naruto's sake, going as far as saying that she loved Naruto instead.

No matter what Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, to her, Naruto > Sasuke

[Strangelove]

Okay, look, maybe Sakura does still love Sasuke, but whether she does or not, she still loves Naruto more. That much is evident. She was willing to abandon Sasuke for Naruto's sake, going as far as saying that she loved Naruto instead.

No matter what Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, to her, Naruto > Sasuke

I second that

Reasons?

Well clearly

1. In Part 1 Sakura was seeking for Sasuke acknowledgment.
2. In Part 2 Naruto has surpassed Sasuke. [defeated all 6 paths of Pain] Thus becoming nirvana according to the Buddhist believe.
3. Sakura has Naruto acknowledgment, and but Naruto believes he doesn't have Sakura's acknowledgment till he fulfills his promise to her. [but damn right now he is stronger than Jiraiya, Madara, and Kakashi]

Edited by Strangelove, 30 October 2009 - 09:03 PM.

[Miss Soupy]

Okay, look, maybe Sakura does still love Sasuke, but whether she does or not, she still loves Naruto more. That much is evident. She was willing to abandon Sasuke for Naruto's sake, going as far as saying that she loved Naruto instead.

No matter what Sakura's feelings for Sasuke, to her, Naruto > Sasuke

It's a bit tricky arguing something like this mostly because Sasuke is supposed to be evil while Naruto is good. Sakura is not an evil character, she is on the good side with Naruto. Saying that gives support for Sakura choosing to side with Naruto based on ethics, because there is more at stake than her bond with Naruto (the village and all the people there). I don't believe this to be completely the case, but one could argue that she would choose Naruto over Sasuke based solely on that idea. Anyways, I do agree that she puts Naruto above Sasuke because he is the one she has grown close to. There is proof of that when she tells him she will save Sasuke for him. This was said before she had a definite reason to give up Sasuke based on ethics. The major difference between this confession and her last one is that she is no longer willing to give up the village to be with Sasuke. She is choosing the road that protects her home rather than abandoning it for love. At least in that aspect she has changed.

For me it's still hard to tell who Sakura might be in love with more because there just is so much at stake and so much she would want to protect.

[Hopestar]

I say she loves Naruto more which is very obvious based on NS evidence we have collect. Now once again we keep having the Sasuke issue. I think Sakura will always love Sasuke because he was her 1st love and that's something you'll never forget. In a way at least Sakura starting to see reality and move on from Sasuke while her possible lover doesn't.

There's no reason to search or save Sasuke anymore since the man doesn't give a damn anymore. What tie Naruto in this Sasuke investigation was his promise to Sakura but since she's untying it he's now like WTF!!!

Trust me folks he's like this when she's attempting an confession wait until she tells him the Rookie 9's decision. Hell yeah, he's going to flip and I see an agrument and possible fight between those two. Of all things they could fight about must it be over an nukenin?

[TwilightLink20xx]

Guys, just a HUGE thing to keep in mind when it comes to this confession: It's NARUTO's point-of-view. You have to keep that in mind, because he himself hasn't noticed that Sakura is showing signs of falling for him. He also assumes she still has a crush on Sasuke, and that will always be the way it is. It's critical to never forget how POV affects the way things are perceived. With that in mind, it just might be true that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke in that way anymore. Then again, it might not be true, but we'll just have to wait until next chapter, now won't we? XD

[Strangelove]

What can be true is this, sometime in the story, Naruto has to realize that Sasuke isn't his friend anymore, he is hanging by a loose thread, and im fearful that Madara is going to use Sasuke to bring Naruto into his claws, or make Sasuke capture Naruto which will force Sakura to summon all her strength, both physically and emotionally if she wants to save Naruto. But remember that all stories have happy endings.


























I think

Edited by Strangelove, 02 November 2009 - 07:24 PM.

[Derock]

Don't you say "You think"...

This is one of the stories that suppose to have a happy ending and you know it.

[Strangelove]

Don't you say "You think"...

This is one of the stories that suppose to have a happy ending and you know it.

Yus ^^

mew!!!

[Nick1282]

Narusaku is canon in manga Chapter #469 sakura confesses to naruto

[sarcasm]um...yeah that makes sense[/sarcasm]

Right, because true love means doing one thing, then disappearing into the background......oh whoops, I forgot to put the sarcasm tag in there

Hm...let me think about that....how 'bout every human being on the planet? Seriously, lying is part of what makes humans human. Oh, I'm sorry that Sakura isn't perfect like every other character in the Naruto series. Right? She's the only one who makes mistakes? I mean, it's not like Sasuke went and nearly killed his best friend when he was just trying to help. 'Cause that's definitely not as bad as what Sakura did. *gasp* lying to protect a friend?! Blasphemy!

haven't u read chapter #469 already? sakura actually confesses

[BlackLightning]

Narusaku is canon in manga Chapter #469 sakura confesses to naruto

Here's the problem Nick, just because one party confessed doesn't make the pairing canon. its just like irl: just because someone confessed to you doesn't mean you 2 will definitely go out with each other, not until you give her the answer. what makes Sakura's confession difficult are because many people believe that:

1. Her confession was done because she don't want Naruto to be hurt more than he already is
2. Her confession was powered by her guilt because she is one of the reason Naruto is hurt
3. She's lying through her teeth that she doesn't love Sasuke anymore
4. She was being a liar because she didn't tell Naruto about Konoha's decision about Sasuke

[Cupcake-chan]

Narusaku is canon in manga Chapter #469 sakura confesses to naruto



haven't u read chapter #469 already? sakura actually confesses

So did Hinata. Does confessing really mean that the couple is canon? No... it doesn't, otherwise we would have two big pairings, and I don't think that's what Kishi is aiming for. He's aiming for one or none.

Edited by Cupcake-chan, 06 November 2009 - 02:46 AM.

[tekopi]

So did Hinata. Does confessing really mean that the couple is canon? No... it doesn't, otherwise we would have two big pairings, and I don't think that's what Kishi is aiming for. He's aiming for one or none.

I agree with you
If we look generally, most of the popular manga or anime today doesn't focusing much on the love story, sometimes it only ends by letting the love story to be hang.
I only hope that Naruto's will have a balance ending, both in the friendship and love plot, that's all.