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#2141 Nefertieh

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:01 PM

the point is the fact that NH fandom see NS as a comical duo, a joke where there's nothing of some real romantic development. Right so, just only a comical couple where nothing's real. Naruto's crush for her is comical and Sakura sees him as a brother.
While SS fandom doesn't care about Naruto's feelings, they just think that in her heart there's only Sasuke and their development is positive and Naruto is the first fanboy of this couple (about this they could be right but not at whole)...
 
It's funny that speaking about the 3 great couple, NS is cosidered as a joke.

This just reminded me of this great Tumblr post Paptala made: http://paptala.tumbl...ll-me-again-how

I had a famous naruhina fan tell me years ago, back in my NF years, that Naruto was only flirting with Sakura to annoy her. Right, I'm sure when he cries are being denied was part of the plan.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:01 PM

Saw this... and just no...

 

 

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Er.. I..  well.. Don't look at me like that, I was totally awake! The post was something about romance, right?

 

OK, here's my counter: 631. I think that should suffice.

 

 

the point is the fact that NH fandom see NS as a comical duo, a joke where there's nothing of some real romantic development. Right so, just only a comical couple where nothing's real. Naruto's crush for her is comical and Sakura sees him as a brother.

While SS fandom doesn't care about Naruto's feelings, they just think that in her heart there's only Sasuke and their development is positive and Naruto is the first fanboy of this couple (about this they could be right but not at whole)...

 

It's funny that speaking about the 3 great couple, NS is cosidered as a joke.

 

Is this the Manzai duo thing again? Tell them to go read SKET Dance. The fact that the canon pairing-to-be in that series is a Manzai duo has been a plot point in the story countless times. They mix the comedy and drama of their relationship pretty well.

 

I'm not saying Naruto and Sakura are this, although it seems they have shades of it from time to time, I'm just saying that such argument really has no base whatsoever.



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:04 PM

If TenTen had a thing for Naruto, I would have had a harder time choosing to ship NS, cause TenTen is Hawt!

But I hope Lee ends up with TenTen. 

 

I hope Kishi's shows that Sakura has loved Naruto for some time now, she realized it, but just wanted a good time to tell him. Maybe she'll say she alwasy had a feeling that Naruto was disguised as Sasuke that day on the bench. 

 

Or maybe Hinata will end up being the biggest NS Shipper, granted NH fans will probably say that Hinata cared SOOOOO much about Naruto that she rather have him happy and be with Sakura, some BS along those lines.



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:06 PM

This just reminded me of this great Tumblr post Paptala made: http://paptala.tumbl...ll-me-again-how

I had a famous naruhina fan tell me years ago, back in my NF years, that Naruto was only flirting with Sakura to annoy her. Right, I'm sure when he cries are being denied was part of the plan as well.

Wow, that link was so much win. So glad she's our FC leader in NF.

 
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Er.. I..  well.. Don't look at me like that, I was totally awake! The post was something about romance, right?
 
OK, here's my counter: 631. I think that should suffice.
 
 
 
Is this the Manzai duo thing again? Tell them to go read SKET Dance. The fact that the canon pairing-to-be in that series is a Manzai duo has been a plot point in the story countless times. They mix the comedy and drama of their relationship pretty well.
 
I'm not saying Naruto and Sakura are this, although it seems they have shades of it from time to time, I'm just saying that such argument really has no base whatsoever.

That gif is adorable. Lol.

Anyway, well that's why we have romantic comedy as a genre and this pairing fits well with it. So what's their excuse? Nothing. It's just one way to lose an argument after another. I wonder if they really want a romance with nothing but love and drama, never comedy or normal daily life. That's nonsense and I can name millions of them that's not all love without anything else.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:12 PM

Wow, that link was so much win. So glad she's our FC leader in NF.


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That panel was the one I was talking about earlier. This was the panel the anime team changed from "I will protect Sakura-chan!" into "I will protect the village!"
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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:24 PM

No way! Did they really? This moment was played down, Naruto was afraid of gaara the whole time, but then the second Sakura was in danger he went after him. Even Afterwards Sasuke told Sakura it was Naruto who saved her and he just got a smile. Sigh, I want another moment like this, even if the haters are gonna say Sakura is weak. 



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:29 PM

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That panel was the one I was talking about earlier. This was the panel the anime team changed from "I will protect Sakura-chan!" into "I will protect the village!"

Actually, they kept that line in the anime. I think the second time was either added or altered, but the first one with the summoning he said Sakura, not village. Unless, they made a remake that I'm not aware of.

No way! Did they really? This moment was played down, Naruto was afraid of gaara the whole time, but then the second Sakura was in danger he went after him. Even Afterwards Sasuke told Sakura it was Naruto who saved her and he just got a smile. Sigh, I want another moment like this, even if the haters are gonna say Sakura is weak. 

I'll be honest, so do I. I want something to trigger Naruto to his fullest. I don't want her to die, but I need something to trigger Naruto because sometimes you need that one push to make you go to your fullest, and honestly, it's been so long. I don't consider turning Kyuubi as one, I want Naruto to be in his normal state and kick ass in his normal state. That's why I visioned FMA final battle. Heck, we got an Edo Tensei Madara who can regenerate, so go all out on him. Go rated R with the advantage of papers. That's how I would do it.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 03:31 PM

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That panel was the one I was talking about earlier. This was the panel the anime team changed from "I will protect Sakura-chan!" into "I will protect the village!"

 

Well did they provide an equally discrepant modification of Hinata's words as she was fighting Pain? You know, an over refinement of what her canonical intentions were so that she was in fact futilely sacrificing herself for the sake of Konoha as a whole instead of her infatuation with Naruto. I would hope that Studio Pierrot is offering the same creative revisions to every character's thoughts and actions as they do for Sakura or anything relating to her character. 



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 04:18 PM

Actually, they kept that line in the anime. I think the second time was either added or altered, but the first one with the summoning he said Sakura, not village. Unless, they made a remake that I'm not aware of.

Hm, even if that was the case, it seems the anime altered an important line in the story. I'm sure Naruto would have wanted to protect the village as well, but in the manga, his primary concern was Sakura. And this was one of the first instances where Naruto's crush was not made into a joke.

 
Well did they provide an equally discrepant modification of Hinata's words as she was fighting Pain? You know, an over refinement of what her canonical intentions were so that she was in fact futilely sacrificing herself for the sake of Konoha as a whole instead of her infatuation with Naruto. I would hope that Studio Pierrot is offering the same creative revisions to every character's thoughts and actions as they do for Sakura or anything relating to her character. 

I liked the way you put it. I've stopped following the anime, so I can't say much for Hinata, although I know they changed Sakura's post-confession smile into a more neutral ":-|" face.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 04:35 PM

Hm, even if that was the case, it seems the anime altered an important line in the story. I'm sure Naruto would have wanted to protect the village as well, but in the manga, his primary concern was Sakura. And this was one of the first instances where Naruto's crush was not made into a joke.


I understand. They still kept all those moments intact at least, so it's not like it got damaged or anything. Plus, they have been adding more and altered more to NS favor, including the one beginning of Shippuuden, like how they used her smile from the panel into later scene to make a nicer impact. Also, I did like how Naruto saw her medical ability and you just see her fly off to space (not literally) and just thought, "Sakura-chan, you're so cool." Anime, I give credits from time to time. Still, I'll stay manga.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:09 PM

After checking that link, I don't blame them, but I would say they are missing the point. Yes, I don't blame them for not reading the point of these confirmations. It's not that Minato told Sakura to love Naruto for she is similar to Kushina, rather it's for us to understand that she's similar to Kushina and when you put the puzzle together, you get the message that NaruSaku is meant to be. I'm happy that Minato is not forcing anyone to love for the sake of this or that, rather he only asked the question, like what he saw, and hope for the great future with them. Because if someone forced to love for this sake, it's not real love or at least the proper love development, and that's like I said from Kishi. If Yamato did finish the sentence, it may be a shortcut to NaruSaku, but who knows how the event would be like from that point on. Could it be good, could it be bad, we don't truly know.
 
For what it's worth, they really form a strong bond that nothing will break them. So sit back and wait for the pairing truly becomes canon. I understand you calling them canon right a way and well, I won't argue with that. I would say it's not canon, because they are not together yet or at least confirm it, but since you're new here, allow me to say this:
 
We are no longer on the road to if NS will be canon, we are on the road to how NS becomes canon.


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Oh and, about that stupid post by that hinata fan, in chp 573 hinata didnt say that after the war shes gonna hold narutos hand and walk beside him! She said that in the war shes gonna do that, and she did, she said that after the war shes gonna stop chasing after him!!!

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:14 PM

Actually, they kept that line in the anime. I think the second time was either added or altered, but the first one with the summoning he said Sakura, not village. Unless, they made a remake that I'm not aware of.I'll be honest, so do I. I want something to trigger Naruto to his fullest. I don't want her to die, but I need something to trigger Naruto because sometimes you need that one push to make you go to your fullest, and honestly, it's been so long. I don't consider turning Kyuubi as one, I want Naruto to be in his normal state and kick ass in his normal state. That's why I visioned FMA final battle. Heck, we got an Edo Tensei Madara who can regenerate, so go all out on him. Go rated R with the advantage of papers. That's how I would do it.

That's why we never saw sakura get hurt/mortally wound so naruto would not snap.
After all naruto overprotective toward sakura keep her safe just like minato did to kushina.
That's why when naruto clone arrive in the medical camp, he say "you are not hurt sakura".

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:16 PM

I kind of liked, at least a little, the alteration in the anime to the fight with Gaara and Naruto's motivation.  It showed steps -- fighting for himself, Naruto was barely able to touch Gaara.  Fighting for the village, he was winning, but allowed Gaara to recover.  Fighting for Sakura, he beat Gaara once and for all (and with enough determination to crawl over there with his chin to try and end him.  Damn, Sakura, isn't that enough of a clue that Naruto really loves you right there?  Did you REALLY need Sai to spell it out for you?).


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:21 PM

And uugh the time naruto said he'd protect sakura chan..aaaaggh thats gold man :love:

In japanese culture, when men confess they're feelings to their loved ones, they say, "I'll protect *insert name of lover* no matter what!"

We've heard his numerous times from naruto and once from yamato to naruto.

Now....naruto...make your move!!!

Oh and about the possible out come of naruto and sakuras kiss, they're definitely gonna kiss, but its either the forehead or lips, but im hoping for both.

Ever since kuramas tease towards naruto about not kissing a girl, I felt like tjat was kishis way of foreshadowing a kiss in the near future. We saw that naruto and sakura were gonna kiss in chp 3, but they got cut off, I think naruto and sakuras kiss on the lips will be covered up somehow like konan and yahikos, something like dbz when chi chi and goku kissed during the android arc when goku got better from his illness and master roshi got in on them and hastened to look away, possibly naruto and sakuras will occur like one of those, but im hoping for the latter, something like gokus and chichis, just showing the two figures close together and affectionate looks etc.

A kiss is definitely possible and followong the events in the manga, im expecting one actually. The forehead comment will definitely be brought up, I can guarantee you that. The chances of us gettimg a forehead kiss is really really high, but im just praying we get a lip kiss too, not on panel, that would be kinda awkward, buut I dont mind if that happens but I cant think of a possible legitimate scene, so im betting on the scene I explained in my paragraph above.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:36 PM

@Canadian: yeah there are so many kissing opporunities for NS :hehehe: :smug:

 

Forehead + bench scene explaination / resolution

 

Or just good old fashioned kissing lips, tongue and more :hehehe:

 

Personally i don't think Kishi would be scared to have NS kiss on lips, but it's far more likely that forehead kiss/sakura realize her love for Naruto via bench scene reveal.


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:36 PM

That's why we never saw sakura get hurt/mortally wound so naruto would not snap.
After all naruto overprotective toward sakura keep her safe just like minato did to kushina.
That's why when naruto clone arrive in the medical camp, he say "you are not hurt sakura".

Yeah, I remember that. Heck, he even shows it before Sakura shows her power in the last chapter. So this begs the question: will it happen again? While she's strong, let's not forget the opponents are like fighting SSS boss in MMO by yourself, you'll need help. It's not that I want Sakura to go down like back in the day, but it's not like she will be fine forever. Me, I want Naruto to go to his limit and Sakura being in trouble or badly wounded (hoping for first at the very least) will trigger it. If she never sees him like it and since we are on a roll going back in time, this is it. It's not guaranteed that it will happen, just a possibility. I won't be surprised it may not happen but the chance of badass will be missed. Just my opinion.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:45 PM

I kind of liked, at least a little, the alteration in the anime to the fight with Gaara and Naruto's motivation.  It showed steps -- fighting for himself, Naruto was barely able to touch Gaara.  Fighting for the village, he was winning, but allowed Gaara to recover.  Fighting for Sakura, he beat Gaara once and for all (and with enough determination to crawl over there with his chin to try and end him.  Damn, Sakura, isn't that enough of a clue that Naruto really loves you right there?  Did you REALLY need Sai to spell it out for you?).

 

you have to remember that sakura was unconscious during the whole garra and naruto fight,but if she did experience the fight herself it could have impacted her relationship with naruto.


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Posted 08 June 2013 - 05:49 PM

 
you have to remember that sakura was unconscious during the whole garra and naruto fight,but if she did experience the fight herself it could have impacted her.


Which is why my post implied this. Not just for her, but for Naruto to go all out. Probably the few times that Kishi drew Naruto complete badass with his eyes, especially when he has to awaken Kyuubi's chakra after looking at her one more time. He has a face of "Don't kitten with me". I missed that. The closest we got was when he was telling Nagato that he wants to kill him so bad part, when his eyes have a fusion of sage and Kyuubi.

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Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:11 PM

Yeah, I remember that. Heck, he even shows it before Sakura shows her power in the last chapter. So this begs the question: will it happen again? While she's strong, let's not forget the opponents are like fighting SSS boss in MMO by yourself, you'll need help. It's not that I want Sakura to go down like back in the day, but it's not like she will be fine forever. Me, I want Naruto to go to his limit and Sakura being in trouble or badly wounded (hoping for first at the very least) will trigger it. If she never sees him like it and since we are on a roll going back in time, this is it. It's not guaranteed that it will happen, just a possibility. I won't be surprised it may not happen but the chance of badass will be missed. Just my opinion.

 

Well right now there are a lot of ways this happening. Like Sakura releasing the seal it wears off and Obito shows up, and attacks Sakura. Now Naruto was better than Obito at this, in that he managed to save Sakura, so not sure if it will be likely again. Thou honestly something regarding Naruto and Sakura relationship is tied to Obito and a possible TNJ.

Not sure if Obito will have a come back until the end of the volume but wonder if they will succed in subduing the juubi for a while so that we can see a Madara/Hashirama fight ( which I think it will be the highlight of comedy battles in this series)



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Posted 08 June 2013 - 06:27 PM

 
Well right now there are a lot of ways this happening. Like Sakura releasing the seal it wears off and Obito shows up, and attacks Sakura. Now Naruto was better than Obito at this, in that he managed to save Sakura, so not sure if it will be likely again. Thou honestly something regarding Naruto and Sakura relationship is tied to Obito and a possible TNJ.
Not sure if Obito will have a come back until the end of the volume but wonder if they will succed in subduing the juubi for a while so that we can see a Madara/Hashirama fight ( which I think it will be the highlight of comedy battles in this series)

That's true. Only 4 chapters left before we can say, "Next volume: boss fight! Mortal Kombat!!!"

I forgot to mention, Minato got angry when Kushina was hurt. Another parallel right in the bin.




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