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[TouKen4Life3g]

Wonder why she was spared since everyone was going to be brought back anyway?

[rocci]

Wonder why she was spared since everyone was going to be brought back anyway?

No idea. Nh maybe.

@ryriena
Outside of pairing result, I don't see the point of killing her.
Even if she's dead, she will get revive like the others.

[Ryriena]

I know you've said that before you were an NH fan in the day. And honestly, I liked the potential Hinata had, but it got thrown away thanks to pity, her fandom (emphasis on the dumb part for some of it. No offense), and Kishi being unable to have a backbone and say "NO" to his new editors and everyone else trying to put their hands in his cookie jar.

No offense take, even I hate how my fellow Hinata fans acted towards Sakura and the other females in the story to a point, I was often mistaken for a NaruSaku fan, because of the fact I defended Sakura from the bashing on the forums, I went too. I also debated with manga evidence rather than using the fillers and the anime, so that also is, why I had gotten confused with a NaruSaku fan a lot during my time as a NH fan.

[Ryriena]

No idea. Nh maybe.
@ryriena
Outside of pairing result, I don't see the point of killing her.
Even if she's dead, she will get revive like the others.

Don't revive her, and I just hated that she was not killed for doing something stupid. You know to show that your actions do have consequences, and her being a idiot in that arc should've had some really negative consequences, as such him going eight tails didn't seem all that negative, since as soon as Minato showed up you knew that he would come back from it and become stronger.

[rocci]

Don't revive her, and I just hated that she was not killed for doing something stupid. You know to show that your actions do have consequences, and her being a idiot in that arc should've had some really negative consequences, as such him going eight tails didn't seem all that negative, since as soon as Minato showed up you knew that he would come back from it and become stronger.

The stab is the consequence, eventought she doesn't die from that.
People questioning how can pain miss to kill her.

If you don't want her to get revive, than pein shouldn't revive the entire village. And kishi shouldn't make garra revive too in the first place. Thus madara doesn't need to revive.

[Catra]

speaking of star wars i just purposly spoiled myself XD the wait was killing me, and my hunch was correct on some parts which of course i wont say ;)

[Nostradamus]

I tend to agree with the Pain Arc being the end of thrill of, who is going to die, since they did bring everyone back to life. That was pretty stupid to me, as it did kill the thrill of who's going to die next.

And thanks I can't wait until the 18th.

Neither can I. I got my ticket as well.

[rocci]

speaking of star wars i just purposly spoiled myself XD the wait was killing me, and my hunch was correct on some parts which of course i wont say ;)

Jar jar is the new sith lord?

[Catra]

no.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

With power up, naruto and sasuke will beat edo madara.
Naruto black orb will destroy edo body.

Jubi madara > edo madara.

It can, but it doesn't mean it will (and it would still work on Rikudo Madara too, so it's a bit of a moot point). Madara not only still has more power and infinite chakra to power it, but he also has decades of real combat experience compared to Naruto and Sasuke, so the only way that they would really be able to beat Edo Madara whereas the five Kage couldn't (who also had years or decades of real combat experience, including real wars) would be to make him have constant "moments of stupidity" ala Kakuzu and/or very hax/deus ex machina moments for Naruto and Sasuke, which would only further prove just how much stronger (Edo) Madara truly is to anyone with common sense. The guy may be an a-hole, but he earned his legendary status for a reason, unlike ones like Naruto and Sasuke, who pretty much had it all just handed to them.

[rocci]

@halfdemoninuyasha
Edo tensei doesn't give you infinite chakra. It get establish in war arc.
Rikudo madara is way more powerful than edo madara.

I don't think naruto and sasuke could deal with rikudo madara head on.
They need to seperate madara with all bijuu in order to chance to fight evenly with him.

Experience mean nothing in the face overwhelm power.

Take example for kakuzu, even withouth pis, naruto group will win against him since there's no way kakuzu will win again that many people. But it will take longer to end the fight if kishi doesn't use pis.

The reason why five kage will never beat edo madara because he's already beyond kage level. Only naruto & sasuke could go toe to toe with him and they need the power up.

[Hanabi]

Wonder why she was spared since everyone was going to be brought back anyway?

Her "death" made naruto snap and after minato's save he realized what he did, he was overwhelmed by his own outburst and thought that he killed the villagers including hinata. Then he used sage mode sensing and saw that he didnt caused any harm and renewed his resolve to defeat pain, i think

Edited by Hanabi, 11 December 2015 - 04:34 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It would have been fine with either way, really. Didn't he already acknowledge Kakashi is dead?

[rocci]

It would have been fine with either way, really. Didn't he already acknowledge Kakashi is dead?

Well, if she's dead, there will be no color page showing Hinata boob and sakura healing and her answering neji question.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, if she's dead, there will be no color page showing Hinata boob and sakura healing and her answering neji question.

That's...a legitimately good point. It really didn't play any part at all. It's a mess.

[rocci]

That's...a legitimately good point. It really didn't play any part at all. It's a mess.

Agree.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Wonder why she was spared since everyone was going to be brought back anyway?

 

Because its a major plot armor for a NH moment. The ironic thing about this is that NH got their breakthrough right after Yahagi left.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

@halfdemoninuyasha
Edo tensei doesn't give you infinite chakra. It get establish in war arc.
Rikudo madara is way more powerful than edo madara.

I don't think naruto and sasuke could deal with rikudo madara head on.
They need to seperate madara with all bijuu in order to chance to fight evenly with him.

Experience mean nothing in the face overwhelm power.

Take example for kakuzu, even withouth pis, naruto group will win against him since there's no way kakuzu will win again that many people. But it will take longer to end the fight if kishi doesn't use pis.

The reason why five kage will never beat edo madara because he's already beyond kage level. Only naruto & sasuke could go toe to toe with him and they need the power up.

Yes, it said so.

Naruto and Sasuke couldn't deal with either Madara, so there's no way to know, but both Madara forms were definitely holding them off even with their power-ups.

Except Madara has overwhelming power (even before he died) AND far more experience than Naruto and Sasuke combined. The power would have to be enormously greater for such long time experience to not mean anything at all, and Naruto and Sasuke were not more powerful or else they would not have both needed power-ups nor need to work together against Madara and Kaguya. Same with Kakuzu; even with all of those Konoha ninja there, including Kakashi and Yamato (two of Konoha's strongest at the time), Kakuzu was still holding them all off quite effectively (and the Konoha ninja were no closer to beating him when Naruto arrived) which is why Naruto winning single-handedly solely due to having Kakuzu having a "moment of stupidity" to allow Naruto to hit him with a half-finished Rasenshuriken with his usual tactics is so lame. If it had everyone else there assisting him and allowing Naruto to simply land the finishing blow, it would be a different story.

Jiraiya vs. Nagato is another close example. Nagato even admitted that if he hadn't taken Jiraiya by surprise with the abilities of the Rinnegan, then Jiraiya would have beaten him, and that's largely due to Jiraiya's decades more of experience (which is also why, even as he was taken by surprise by the Rinnegan and its abilities, Jiraiya still did extremely well).

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@halfdemoninuyasha
Naruto & sasuke can't deal with rikudo madara, but they could deal with edo madara. Simply because they have enough fire power to deal with edo madara.

Which madara is this? The EMS or rinnegan old madara.
Five kages could deal with EMS madara and I could argue with rinnegan madara. But edo madara is different story since he has both rinnegan and mokuton (sage body & eyes). That's why only naruto and sasuke who could fight edo madara head on.

Kakuzu can't hold of longer since both of kakashi Yamato has the bane of his elemental attack. And he's outnumber.
Yes, I don't deny that naruto vs kakuzu fill with pis.

All six path will defeat jiraiya. Sm is not the match for the power of all six path.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, I'm currently reading on characters who has been treated terrible at NF. A bit bored here so I might as well.