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[totherpage95]

Lol not according to kishi apparently. But I could not think of a way for the kage to get a victory. I assumed they all died but kishi plot jutsued his way out with katsuya and bad writing.

Edited by totherpage95, 09 December 2015 - 10:51 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

No.

Kishi should just kill tsunade if he want to put kakashi as hokage.

Exactly. There was no reason at all.

[rocci]

Lol not according to kishi apparently. But I could not think of a way for the kage to get a victory. I assumed they all died but kishi plot jutsued his way out with katsuya and bad writing.

Kage defeated by madara is invetible.
Naruto and sasuke should defeat him.

@touken
Yup.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Maybe the cut in half scenario should have been her first and only time to have us guessing her fate.

[Catra]

im not saying the kage should have beat him. the fact they got back up makes re reading the fight pointless XD

[totherpage95]

Maybe the cut in half scenario should have been her first and only time to have us guessing her fate.

Lol that's nothing. Naruto and sasuke spend all night with no arms

[rocci]

Maybe the cut in half scenario should have been her first and only time to have us guessing her fate.

Dead is a better fate for her than demote for no reason at all.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Yeah, she was a bit like the only one that I thought might kick the bucket, but then we had like 3 times of escaping death, so it wore off and I was convinced that no one will die or rather nothing will give me that feeling of one can really die. That was the problem of the arc, it never gave me that chilling feeling of someone may die or not. It's either feel great fear of death or die out of random moment (Neji). There's no scary build to it.

And anyone who did die was some no-name, cannonfodder foot soldier who had no importance to anything. Despite all that was supposedly at stake with this war, it also was the shortest and most pointless war compared to what little we saw/heard about the previous three wars. Those actually sounded like real wars.

 

I never see madara as op villain.
He's a beatable villain.

Edo Madara was OP at least - immortality, near-instant regeneration from any damage, infinite chakra (somehow), and had the Rinnegan and Mokuton, making him even more powerful than he ever was when he was previously alive (even the sealing techniques used on other Edo Shinobi were useless), and he was already extremely powerful then. He was essentially unbeatable in his Edo body. That's why Kishi needed to make up some BS excuse to have the Rinne Tensei used on him to bring him back to life - just so he could be killed (in a lame way) - like somehow not being able to use the full power of the Rinnegan because of the Edo body and crap like that (while also ignoring how the Rinne Tensei could only revive those who were only dead recently, which is why Jiraiya wasn't revived when Nagato used it, whereas Madara had been dead for over a decade at least).

[rocci]

@halfdemon
Rikudo naruto and rinnegan sasuke will beat him.
Edo madara is strong because 5 kage don't have fire power to defeat him.
Rikudo madara > edo madara.

[totherpage95]

And anyone who did die was some no-name, cannonfodder foot soldier who had no importance to anything. Despite all that was supposedly at stake with this war, it also was the shortest and most pointless war compared to what little we saw/heard about the previous three wars. Those actually sounded like real wars.
 
Edo Madara was OP at least - immortality, near-instant regeneration from any damage, infinite chakra (somehow), and had the Rinnegan and Mokuton, making him even more powerful than he ever was when he was previously alive (even the sealing techniques used on other Edo Shinobi were useless), and he was already extremely powerful then. He was essentially unbeatable in his Edo body. That's why Kishi needed to make up some BS excuse to have the Rinne Tensei used on him to bring him back to life - just so he could be killed (in a lame way) - like somehow not being able to use the full power of the Rinnegan because of the Edo body and crap like that (while also ignoring how the Rinne Tensei could only revive those who were only dead recently, which is why Jiraiya wasn't revived when Nagato used it, whereas Madara had been dead for over a decade at least).

I thought the way it worked was the rinnegan can control life and death under perfect circumstances and nagato was limited in what he could do with the chakra he had and chose to revive a bunch of people he killed recently instead of one person he killed previously. But who knows its probably still a ass pull. Madara is op kitten for a fact though that I know

Edited by totherpage95, 09 December 2015 - 11:39 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

All I was asking was the sense of losing or something. I mean they have that but it had the similar fashion that Naruto somehow can connect everyone like he's a psychic and everyone kept bouncing back without real strong momentum. In fact, the closest you got was with dealing with Obito. After that, it felt like another bad guy just doing his things. Kaguya vs. Team 7 have no sense of fear, since it was predictable beyond and the last fight has no real stake except one last grudge. It's good to know that Sakura and Kakashi (though the latter is a bit understanding) is declared that they can't handle a handicapped Sasuke have he won the fight.

Like someone said above, only the nameless characters get killed, which is fine, but the named one just kept dying in a random spite or no real impact like "Wow...I was hoping he didn't but there you go." I don't even think there's a roar cry scene. It's just people giving expositions and acting like the first act of Fairy Tail: overly cheerful and no sense of fear but goofing around. I don't know, I have always been spoiled with this concept since the early days, because war can bring many types of genre into one if done right.

[totherpage95]

All I was asking was the sense of losing or something. I mean they have that but it had the similar fashion that Naruto somehow can connect everyone like he's a psychic and everyone kept bouncing back without real strong momentum. In fact, the closest you got was with dealing with Obito. After that, it felt like another bad guy just doing his things. Kaguya vs. Team 7 have no sense of fear, since it was predictable beyond and the last fight has no real stake except one last grudge. It's good to know that Sakura and Kakashi (though the latter is a bit understanding) is declared that they can't handle a handicapped Sasuke have he won the fight.
Like someone said above, only the nameless characters get killed, which is fine, but the named one just kept dying in a random spite or no real impact like "Wow...I was hoping he didn't but there you go." I don't even think there's a roar cry scene. It's just people giving expositions and acting like the first act of Fairy Tail: overly cheerful and no sense of fear but goofing around. I don't know, I have always been spoiled with this concept since the early days, because war can bring many types of genre into one if done right.

That's probably why I preferred the first act of fairy tail ... But the war arc was bad in my opinion

[TouKen4Life3g]

That's probably why I preferred the first act of fairy tail ... But the war arc was bad in my opinion

Well, not a lot of people like it. I have to sit down and keep going through many people saying, "When does the arc ends?!" or "Boring!" or anything that is negative. I still remember when Madara took over, everyone was like "Oh God!.."

[rocci]

Well, not a lot of people like it. I have to sit down and keep going through many people saying, "When does the arc ends?!" or "Boring!" or anything that is negative. I still remember when Madara took over, everyone was like "Oh God!.."

This arc is 1/3 of the manga. Most of it is fanservice.

I agree with your other post.

[TouKen4Life3g]

This arc is 1/3 of the manga. Most of it is fanservice.

I agree with your other post.

That's what makes it hard to like. It's really 1/3 of the series. That's enough to damage the overall.

[rocci]

That's what makes it hard to like. It's really 1/3 of the series. That's enough to damage the overall.

In most naruto forums, people kittening about this arc.

[TouKen4Life3g]

In most naruto forums, people kittening about this arc.

What?

[rocci]

What?

Most people complain in war arc.
There's always something to complain.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

@halfdemon
Rikudo naruto and rinnegan sasuke will beat him.
Edo madara is strong because 5 kage don't have fire power to defeat him.
Rikudo madara > edo madara.

Actually, they don't actually beat him (if anything, he was still winning, even after Naruto and Sasuke's magic power-ups). He's brought back to life by somehow controlling Obito into doing the Rinne Tensei on him rather than all the nameless grunts (and Neji) who died during the war thus far. The five Kage definitely had the firepower, but Edo Madara was literally invincible as he was due to the properties of Edo Tensei. The only thing that would have reasonably worked on Edo Madara at that time would be the Shiki Fuin. Otherwise, Madara freed himself from Kabuto's control, thus preventing himself from falling apart after Kabuto was incapacitated by Itachi and had the sealing undone, normal sealing proved useless as he easily overpowered them, attrition was out of the question as Edo Madara had infinite chakra, and it didn't matter how or how much anyone damaged him as Edo Tensei would always regenerate him outside of probably Rikudo Obito.

Rikudo Madara may have been more powerful in general, but that's really it. Him being brought back to life really served no purpose other than to allow him to be killed by Black Zetsu. If he had been kept in Edo Tensei form, there would have been no stopping him without some really big BS (far bigger than what we already had by then anyway)..

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

 

I would love to read it myself

 

You should contact that person to scan or photo the pages and post them on tumblr. We have our translators like Rikudo here.