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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:43 AM

I agree, there is so much hate in the other fandoms (NH, SS) especially toward Sakura. I mean she's an average character, with a lot of good qualities, and she actually has a heart and loves and cares deeply for people - unlike Sasuke...

 

Why exactly do people hate her anyways? Probably for some illogical reason, because I don't see her deserving any of the hate she's getting. Maybe respect, or even pity, but not hate. No character should get bashed, because every one of them is important to the series, Sakura especially.


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:45 AM

I agree, there is so much hate in the other fandoms (NH, SS) especially toward Sakura. I mean she's an average character, with a lot of good qualities, and she actually has a heart and loves and cares deeply for people - unlike Sasuke...
 
Why exactly do people hate her anyways? Probably for some illogical reason, because I don't see her deserving any of the hate she's getting. Maybe respect, or even pity, but not hate. No character should get bashed, because every one of them is important to the series, Sakura especially.

The NH fandom hates her because she is closer to Naruto than Hinata ever was. She does things for Naruto that Hinata can never do. And most importantly, Naruto loves her. Basically it is because of Hinata they hate Sakura.

The SS fandom hates her because she is closer to Naruto than Sasuke. She has shown feelings for Naruto greater than Sasuke. Basically, since, SS is shown in negative light they hate Sakura

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:50 AM

It's no use bothering about Sakura hate to be honest. Every character no matter the show or movie gets hate. Sakura is no different and she is highly criticized because she's the heroine and because she's Naruto's love interest. I have characters I hate a lot like Kabuto...I cannot stand him. Just don't worry about what other fandoms think or say about Sakura. There is one thing I learn about shipping fandoms is that the fandom is fickle and jumps ship easily and try to cling to another. IF or when Sakura get's a defining moment you will see that hate lessen a lot.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:54 AM

I don't see why people deem Naruto Sakura's second choice when in reality she confessed not because Sasuke rejected her and she had no chance with him but because she believed it would benefit Naruto.


Because of a couple of moments where some people interpreted as Sakura favoring Sasuke over Naruto despite everything that happened.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 02:58 AM

Someone told me on a NaruSaku YouTube video that NaruSaku fans were haters and NaruHina fans were lovers.

 

And I was just like whaat? I don't get their logic  :glare:


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:01 AM

That's not even close to the idiosyncracy they show when NS moment happens. They would literally do anything to show that what exist are only NH moments and NS moments don't have an existence.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:03 AM

Someone told me on a NaruSaku YouTube video that NaruSaku fans were haters and NaruHina fans were lovers.

 

And I was just like whaat? I don't get their logic  :glare:

 

 

Because that is not even a logic. That's self-proclaimed and totally baseless, immature bashing, which is a waste of time to think of it. If they think they are so lovable, let them be. It will be nice if we are viewed as the bad guy with sooo much hate sometimes  :hehehe:


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:18 AM

That's not even close to the idiosyncracy they show when NS moment happens. They would literally do anything to show that what exist are only NH moments and NS moments don't have an existence.

 

I mean, at least we acknowledge NaruHina moments when they happen. But to me it seems like Naruto and Hinata are bonding over a relationship they never even had in their "moments"

 

NaruSaku moments are truer because they actually have the development with each other, to act the way they do around each other. Not to mention it's cute and funny on both sides...

 

Because that is not even a logic. That's self-proclaimed and totally baseless, immature bashing, which is a waste of time to think of it.  

 

I'm sure the NaruSaku fandom has plenty of bashers too, but the other fandoms are wayy more vocal about it imo (e.g. Sakura hate -_- )


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:37 AM

When Sakura fought Sasori proved to be sensational, very smart, very strong and compassionate woman that saved the life of Chiyo as soon as she knew in one some days, I remember the comments in the forums and on youtube saying "despite the fact that I hate Sakura she has earned my respect in this fight "

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when beginning to heal all the villagers in the battle against Pain and war arc proved to be a real hero in the service of her people, not a selfish fangirl looking for his idol, then you can see her as a very respectable mature woman.

Not to mention the 663, the fandom does not endorse in any couple or fandom praised much Sakura said that  she is a awsome ninja medical and SO badass, remember that many said, "probably the only medic ninja who can do that in this manga", praised her for doing surgery in critical time.


Sakura is wonderful character if people removed their  paring glasses and watch her objectively she would have a big fandom


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:40 AM

I'm sure the NaruSaku fandom has plenty of bashers too, but the other fandoms are wayy more vocal about it imo (e.g. Sakura hate -_- )

 

 

True. Even I can be a basher if I want. And I think Narusaku fandom, especially H&E forum, is the only place that in a way, teach us to be more mature in our choice of words when we want to rebut a point or criticize something. Bluntly claim people haters while they don't have enough point to back it up, now that's what I call as immature. But what to get, other fandoms are mostly made out of kids. So I understand, and won't bother myself with them.

 

When Sakura fought Sasori proved to be sensational, very smart, very strong and compassionate woman that saved the life of Chiyo as soon as she knew in one some days, I remember the comments in the forums and on youtube saying "despite the fact that I hate Sakura she has earned my respect in this fight "

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=PwRtiVIk1cA (all fight  :sweat:)

when beginning to heal all the villagers in the battle against Pain and war arc proved to be a real hero in the service of her people, not a selfish fangirl looking for his idol, then you can see her as a very respectable mature woman.

Not to mention the 663, the fandom does not endorse in any couple or fandom praised much Sakura said that  she is a awsome ninja medical and SO badass, remember that many said, "probably the only medic ninja who can do that in this manga", praised her for doing surgery in critical time.


Sakura is wonderful character if people removed their  paring glasses and watch her objectively she would have a big fandom

 

 

I think she already has, actually. Only in western that she is a character that is hard to accept. But I can bet (it seems that I made too much bets in my free time), they in all reality check, see how heroic she is actually, but they shove away that feeling deep in themselves, continue to hate and didn't accept that they actually 'like' her by saying all the nonsense hating. *Meh*


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 03:51 AM

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Isn't she soo cute. omg Sakura is the most beautiful in show for a reason and Naruto will end up with the most beautiful girl in the Narutoverse.

That's why I have no respect for fans who say that Sakura isn't attractive bc she is only an A cup. Don't they realize there's more to relationships and beauty than giant melons??? :wot:

 

My guess is they're all single


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 04:18 AM

I didn't always find Sakura attractive...

 

But wow, I opened my eyes one day, and thought she was the most prettiest thing ever >w<

 

She really is cute in her appearance~


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 04:34 AM

I didn't always find Sakura attractive...
 
But wow, I opened my eyes one day, and thought she was the most prettiest thing ever >w<
 
She really is cute in her appearance~

Every damn thing about her is cute ^_^

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:15 AM

What do you guys think the odds of Naruto finding out about the CPR?


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:21 AM

That's why I have no respect for fans who say that Sakura isn't attractive bc she is only an A cup. Don't they realize there's more to relationships and beauty than giant melons??? :wot:

 

My guess is they're all single

More likely a bunch of 12-year-old pervs who really shouldn't even be on the internet in the first place.

 

I really don't understand the big deal about Hinata's chest size or Sakura's chest size. They're FICTIONAL CHARACTERS for cryin' out loud! What does it matter? Are boobs all that matter to the majority of the male population these days? Is that all they want in women? Sure seems like it. I walk around town for a while, run across a group of teenage boys talking about nothing other than sex and how they'd floop these girls they saw at the theaters or something  :glare: It's driving me nuts! And yet I wonder why I don't have any friends or try to befriend people...guys like them are perfect examples.

 

Point is...I'd pick a girl like Sakura over over a girl like Hinata. Any. Day. Of. The. Week.

 

Sakura could do the following:

 

1-Be fun to be around

 

2-Playful

 

3-Would know my limits

 

4-Would comfort me when I'm down

 

5-Would keep me in line

 

6-Would punish me if I did something bad or stupid...which I have been known to do. 

 

7-Would probably be a good mother. She could teach her kids right from wrong fairly easily, and punish them when they disobeyed her

 

8-Would know how to take care of me if I got hurt...which would be REALLY nice because some of the equipment I work on can be kind of dangerous...

 

9-Smart

 

10-A face I would look forward to coming home to everyday when I got off work

 

There's ten things about Sakura, and not ONCE did I mention her chest. Maturity, people. NH fanboys don't have it.

 

Hinata:

 

1- Say Dalton and faint when I walk in the door

 

Gee...it's... nice to see you too, Honey...


Edited by Night Hawk, 15 June 2014 - 05:28 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:23 AM

What do you guys think the odds of Naruto finding out about the CPR?

You mean the operation itself or Sakura's thoughts while she kept his heart beating?

I think he knows of the former. As for the latter, I think it has the same chances as the bench scene, which IMO, it could be discussed later in the manga.

Night Hawk: Actually, I think peoole like Hinata for quite a different reason. Sure, I won't deny that some may like her chest, but I think most of her fans like something else...

To me, one of the common traits some SS/NH fans have is that they support their pairing because they like the fact of one person being acknowledged and accepted by the other. In a world where negativity can hurt one's self-esteem, people look for approval, acceptance and identity. Hence why we admire heroes and characters who have qualities that we want. Now, here's something intetesting:

This is just an opinion, of course, but SS can be compared to the girl who falls for the cool guy/bad guy and wants to be recognized by said guy. We could go even further and add that they hope to make said guy change when they fall for her. And of course, it could also make some kind of symbolic social status (since, as we know, many girls likes Sasuke after all).But anyway, I feellike that sets the base for SS. Of course, not all SS fans think like this, but some of their comments make me think that this is the base for their shipping.

As for NH, this one I feel like is more common than we believe it to be. Someone with a low self-esteem looks for acceptance of someone they consider to have qualities that they would like to have. And so, in the hooes that someone recognizes their beauty, they develop an infatuation for said person. That desire to be loved without working on self-respect ia common among many people. Is not that they don't want to work on self-respect, but more like they believe this will actually help to their self-respect. This is why I believe si many people like Hinata, because they find it cute how she tries her hardest to be noticed by Naruto, even at the cost of self-improvement.

I can't blame the fans. Many factors in the world have contributed to making people believe that these type of relationships are the ideal ones. But anyway, I rambked for too long XD

Point is, I feel like people like NaruHina for personal admiration and identification rather than manga evidence and logical explanation.

Edited by Shadow Wolf, 15 June 2014 - 05:53 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:32 AM

@Night Hawk

That's a rare value actually I've seen in guys so far. Especially those who look beyond the display and value woman as they are. I hope you will find one soon, if you still looking for.  :lol:

 

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My guess is that he really didn't know about the CPR. He knows the heart operation, but didn't know about the 'air exchange procedure'  :chuckle:


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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:34 AM

@Night Hawk

That's a rare value actually I've seen in guys so far. Especially those who look beyond the display and value woman as they are. I hope you will find one soon, if you still looking for.  :lol:

 

I am, but women have a tendency to go after the sex crazed jerks for some reason...



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:35 AM

I think the only reason we got a CPR scene is to be brought up again later for a comedic moment, problem is nobody was around to view it except Gaara and I can't really picture him kick starting the moment

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:48 AM

I am, but women have a tendency to go after the sex crazed jerks for some reason...

 

I don't think that ALL women are like that. maybe you just didn't found the right one yet. You should feel lucky that those woman that you said are being honest and not stab you in the back with what they really want. Anyway, we are getting off-topic here.

 

I'm still hoping that if anybody is in the same boat regarding Hashirama's power. I think in some more chapter in the future, Hashirama will pass something to our heroine. Maybe a word of wisdom, power-ups, because I smell something like this coming towards our direction. Probably just my instinct kicking in.


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