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Posted 14 June 2014 - 06:37 PM

Now I feel down again. T_T

How do you think I feel about my Miami Heat being Down 3-1.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 06:47 PM

How do you think I feel about my Miami Heat being Down 3-1.

Heat garbage , I'm happy the Spurs Fina win it .

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 06:47 PM

How do you think I feel about my Miami Heat being Down 3-1.

You have a chance. Mine is gone! We haven't won since 20 years. We were Naruto losing to Sasuke. It's hell. But anyway, I hope you don't get that feeling.

Man, imagine that. Sakura just go to Sasuke because Naruto loses the title to him. Man, it gives me bad chills thinking that way. No pun intended...

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:00 PM

Heat garbage , I'm happy the Spurs Fina win it .

Heat aren't garbage, it's just their defensive system and coach not utilizing all their players, as lbj stated. 

 

You have a chance. Mine is gone! We haven't won since 20 years. We were Naruto losing to Sasuke. It's hell. But anyway, I hope you don't get that feeling.

Man, imagine that. Sakura just go to Sasuke because Naruto loses the title to him. Man, it gives me bad chills thinking that way. No pun intended...

No team in NBA history has ever come back from a 3-1 deficit in the finals. That statistic scares me.

 

Sakura will be with Sasuke because he needs love after beating Naruto and the people won't take kindly to that considering he's their hero. She will restore his clan and fill him with lots of love.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:09 PM

Good god...

I have heard 3-0 is impossible for one to comeback in NBA. It applies the same to 3-1? That is scary if true.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:13 PM

 

Sakura will be with Sasuke because he needs love after beating Naruto and the people won't take kindly to that considering he's their hero. She will restore his clan and fill him with lots of love.

 

shut up! Sasusaku fans! :headscratch:

 

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:17 PM

I agree with FireFox it's not that Sakura continuesly is reminded that Sasuke is a bad guy, she's just disappointed that he is and just recently is more worried whether or not Naruto was the same.

I do think it kind of sucks though that it takes 3/4ths of the series to establish that she's finally over a crush she had when she was 12.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:22 PM

 

shut up! Sasusaku fans! :headscratch:

 

I love this tumblr :thumb:

 

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:27 PM

Heat aren't garbage, it's just their defensive system and coach not utilizing all their players, as lbj stated. 
 
No team in NBA history has ever come back from a 3-1 deficit in the finals. That statistic scares me.
 
Sakura will be with Sasuke because he needs love after beating Naruto and the people won't take kindly to that considering he's their hero. She will restore his clan and fill him with lots of love.

it ain't they defense it's the kitten the Heat playing . They always want to play slow in the first three quarters and try to play hard and make a comeback in the 4th quarter ,and like you said they keeping most of the players on the bench like James Jones who is a great three point shooter . they could try that with the Bobcats but they better tighten up with the Spurs . Because the Spurs Fina get them a ring 💍

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:33 PM

I agree with FireFox it's not that Sakura continuesly is reminded that Sasuke is a bad guy, she's just disappointed that he is and just recently is more worried whether or not Naruto was the same.

I do think it kind of sucks though that it takes 3/4ths of the series to establish that she's finally over a crush she had when she was 12.

 

I know right? It was barely even "love" throughout the whole series. The confession to him when she was 12 proved how much she didn't understand him in the slightest bit. She only knows what is shown on the outside of Sasuke, she can never delve deeper, because Sasuke never lets her and never will.

 

Part 2 was just about how much Sasuke continues to ruin her life, even when he's not there -_- Sakura's crush on Sasuke is just depressing and disappointing imo


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:36 PM

it ain't they defense it's the kitten the Heat playing . They always want to play slow in the first three quarters and try to play hard and make a comeback in the 4th quarter ,and like you said they keeping most of the players on the bench like James Jones who is a great three point shooter . they could try that with the Bobcats but they better tighten up with the Spurs . Because the Spurs Fina get them a ring

Yeah it seems they like to start off slow. I thought since it was the finals they would come out being aggressive, but I think they will considering that this is a close out game. It was painful to watch James Jones making it rain from the 3point line during garbage time. Coach Spo needs to wake up and finally make adjustments instead of actually saying it. And their defensive system is to blame too. Notice how they constantly double every god damn player that has possession of the ball, which allows other players wide open in the 3point area. There needs to be more single coverage. Wade's been terrible in this series, he looks worn out. Lbj, Lewis, Bosh and Allen are the only players who are making a dent in this series.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:45 PM

 
I know right? It was barely even "love" throughout the whole series. The confession to him when she was 12 proved how much she didn't understand him in the slightest bit. She only knows what is shown on the outside of Sasuke, she can never delve deeper, because Sasuke never lets her and never will.
 
Part 2 was just about how much Sasuke continues to ruin her life, even when he's not there -_- Sakura's crush on Sasuke is just depressing and disappointing imo

And that's what the sad part is. It is not depressing and disappointing but the fact that it ruins her is what hurts me and it makes it depressing and disappointing, ya know? Sakura just....does not deserve this kind of treatment. But since this is brought up now, of all times, there ought to be some reason behind this.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:04 PM

 

Appreciate Sakura and NS are directly related to many fans, somehow I think that's actually the same enthusiasm for the NS

I definitely think that those who are more concerned with the role of Sakura is that a hero like Naruto should have a powerful woman as Mito Uzumaki, but that I think all or most think the same, it's just that some fans are more patients than others and others want Sakura to do something immediately because there are lost opportunities.

Others usually worry more psychological depth of Sakura to overcome Sasuke negative feelings (these are more satisfied with the chapter like I do) but does not mean  that they not wait further actions as heroine.

Actually we all have the same purpose but we can not all be simultaneously satisfied and less when we only have 19 pages for chapter

 

The way I see it, Sakura's development, in a lot of ways, does go hand in hand with NaruSaku's. How Sakura's development is handled doesn't matter to me just  because she's my favorite character (though she is) but also because the progression and portrayal of her character will reflect on NaruSaku, for better or worse. As I said before, I would hate to see all this negative development with Sasuke and Sakura's very heartbreaking reaction to it leading to a scenario that gives the impression of Sakura choosing Naruto based on the negativity of her feelings for Sasuke rather than the positive feelings she has for Naruto -- even if it were not Kishimoto's intention to portray it that way.

 

Of course, there are other reasons for my concerns about Sakura's development and how it will be handled. I want to see Kishimoto follow through with what I can perceive he's set in place, and I really have no expectations beyond that.

 

* Sakura wants to catch up with Naruto and Sasuke so she doesn't have to watch their backs anymore and recently she thought she had accomplished that, only to find out that they are still far ahead of her.

 

* She wants to be useful to her team and instead she's confronted with a scenario where she can't do much at all.

 

* She cares about Sasuke, but he shows repeatedly that her life is of very little consequence to him.

 

* She's been touted as having the potential to surpass Tsunade, but she has not yet reached that point.

 

These are things regarding Sakura's character that have nothing to do with NS but that still need resolution. It's only logical with the manga nearing it's end that people would express concern on whether the unresolved points of Sakura's development will receive the proper and unnecessary attention.


Edited by BakeNeko-Chan, 14 June 2014 - 09:24 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:06 PM

 

I know right? It was barely even "love" throughout the whole series. The confession to him when she was 12 proved how much she didn't understand him in the slightest bit. She only knows what is shown on the outside of Sasuke, she can never delve deeper, because Sasuke never lets her and never will.

 

Part 2 was just about how much Sasuke continues to ruin her life, even when he's not there -_- Sakura's crush on Sasuke is just depressing and disappointing imo

Agreed, also Sakura's confession to Sasuke while very well-done struck me from out of left field. I mean she's only 12 years old and she's pledging herself to leave the village with this guy who just threw a bunch of apples in her face??? :headscratch:

 

Is there any logic in this relationship at all?


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:27 PM

Logic? In SS? That's something you have to start over. I mean I would have gave it a chance, but the problem is that Sakura has a new passage, rather than stay with one. You ever noticed that a character that has love in the past always stick to it or rather end it from that checkpoint? No one else gets into their business or rather say, "Hey, I'm available." That said Sakura got too many with Naruto to the point if one just randomly see a moment, they will assume lovers. Too late to go back now.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:28 PM

Signs of Emotional Abuse

 

Emotional abuse is elusive. Unlike physical abuse, the people doing it and receiving it may not even know it’s happening.

It can be more harmful than physical abuse because it can undermine what we think about ourselves. It can cripple all we are meant to be as we allow something untrue to define us.

 

In the following areas, ask these questions to see if you are abusing or being abused:

  1. Humiliation, degradation, discounting, negating. judging, criticizin: Does anyone regularly ridicule, dismiss, disregard your opinions, thoughts, suggestions, and feelings?
  2. Domination, control, and shame: Do you feel you must “get permission” before going somewhere or before making even small decisions?, Do they treat you as though you are inferior to them?, Do they give disapproving, dismissive, contemptuous, or condescending looks, comments, and behavior?
  3. Accusing and blaming, trivial and unreasonable demands or expectations, denies own shortcomings: Are they unable to laugh at themselves?, Do they have trouble apologizing?
  4. Emotional distancing and the “silent treatment,” isolation, emotional abandonment or neglect Do they not notice or care how you feel? , Do they not show empathy or ask questions to gather information?
  5. Codependence and enmeshment: Do they require continual contact and haven’t developed a healthy support network among their own peers?

Sometimes the best way to determine if you’re being verbally abused is to pay close attention to how someone makes you feel. If you feel hesitant about telling a friend something positive that happened to you, or unhappy with yourself after spending time with them, it may be a sign of verbal abuse.

 

:pimp: very interesting article


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:20 PM

Signs of Emotional Abuse

 

Emotional abuse is elusive. Unlike physical abuse, the people doing it and receiving it may not even know it’s happening.

It can be more harmful than physical abuse because it can undermine what we think about ourselves. It can cripple all we are meant to be as we allow something untrue to define us.

 

In the following areas, ask these questions to see if you are abusing or being abused:

  1. Humiliation, degradation, discounting, negating. judging, criticizin: Does anyone regularly ridicule, dismiss, disregard your opinions, thoughts, suggestions, and feelings?
  2. Domination, control, and shame: Do you feel you must “get permission” before going somewhere or before making even small decisions?, Do they treat you as though you are inferior to them?, Do they give disapproving, dismissive, contemptuous, or condescending looks, comments, and behavior?
  3. Accusing and blaming, trivial and unreasonable demands or expectations, denies own shortcomings: Are they unable to laugh at themselves?, Do they have trouble apologizing?
  4. Emotional distancing and the “silent treatment,” isolation, emotional abandonment or neglect Do they not notice or care how you feel? , Do they not show empathy or ask questions to gather information?
  5. Codependence and enmeshment: Do they require continual contact and haven’t developed a healthy support network among their own peers?

Sometimes the best way to determine if you’re being verbally abused is to pay close attention to how someone makes you feel. If you feel hesitant about telling a friend something positive that happened to you, or unhappy with yourself after spending time with them, it may be a sign of verbal abuse.

 

:pimp: very interesting article

 

Well looks like Sakura's being emotionally abused by Sasuke...

 

... I really don't like SasuSaku.


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Why do people NOT ship these two? I just don't get it.

Probably cause they hate Sakura. When she's probably the most developed female character in the whole show.

I respect Hinata, but Sakura deserves some too.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:34 PM

I bet, Sakura, Kakashi and even Sai wouldn't mind getting a Sasuke voodoo doll on their birthdays.  :kukuku:


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:35 PM

And I think this will definitely go hand-in-hand with what she had used while confessing to Naruto back in Iron Country. Seeing back, other than criminal part, it is shown that Sasuke WILL continuously breaks her heart with his one way track of mind regarding everything. IMO, I don't see it as 'Sakura choosing Naruto based on the negativity of her feelings for Sasuke rather than the positive feelings she has for Naruto' like what you said @BakaNeko-Chan, because what is happening now will only strengthen what she has told Naruto in the confession, the only difference is that she will become resolute with her actual feeling and realized that she is not 'lying' at all and actually will have more confidence in confronting both person that always bring pains in her neck all the time in their own way. And that confession she had done when they were 12, I agree with that. If it happened that she had genuine feeling for him, a little more that just a simple fangirl crush, it is not as strong as what she had could hope. Rather, her closeness and what she had been through with Naruto, worrying over his well-being and afraid that she is a hindrance to him, this is more and well established. This is actually, along the line with 'surpassing' the previous generations is actually overdue for her character. My bet at the moment, is that her emotion development is actually nearing it's full circle, seeing that it actually has been established with three major heart-breaking/abusive points this past few chapters. There might be some more in this arc, probably one or two more panel regarding this issue, just to top it off and make it at its most refined completion, Kishi's style, and it won't inter-relate with Sasuke for this toppings, rather, it will be a self-reflection, Kakashi or better, Naruto's interaction with her.

 

 

I think that Sakura, Kakashi and even Sai wouldn't mind getting a Sasuke voodoo doll on their birthdays.   :kukuku:

 

And a curse, probably a few. That would be nice  :hehehe:


Edited by tekopi, 14 June 2014 - 09:39 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:43 PM

And I think this will definitely go hand-in-hand with what she had used while confessing to Naruto back in Iron Country. Seeing back, other than criminal part, it is shown that Sasuke WILL continuously breaks her heart with his one way track of mind regarding everything. IMO, I don't see it as 'Sakura choosing Naruto based on the negativity of her feelings for Sasuke rather than the positive feelings she has for Naruto' like what you said @BakaNeko-Chan, because what is happening now will only strengthen what she has told Naruto in the confession, the only difference is that she will become resolute with her actual feeling and realized that she is not 'lying' at all and actually will have more confidence in confronting both person that always bring pains in her neck all the time in their own way. And that confession she had done when they were 12, I agree with that. If it happened that she had genuine feeling for him, a little more that just a simple fangirl crush, it is not as strong as what she had could hope. Rather, her closeness and what she had been through with Naruto, worrying over his well-being and afraid that she is a hindrance to him, this is more and well established. This is actually, along the line with 'surpassing' the previous generations is actually overdue for her character. My bet at the moment, is that her emotion development is actually nearing it's full circle, seeing that it actually has been established with three major heart-breaking/abusive points this past few chapters. There might be some more in this arc, probably one or two more panel regarding this issue, just to top it off and make it at its most refined completion, Kishi's style, and it won't inter-relate with Sasuke for this toppings, rather, it will be a self-reflection, Kakashi or better, Naruto's interaction with her.

 

For the record, I don't really see it that way either. But depending on how things are handled in the future, I'm wary of it giving NS a negative impression that rather than based on all that positive development she's had him, she chose Naruto because of the pain Sasuke caused her. It's just a not wanting to look like a "second best" kind of thing when it isn't.






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