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[Nostradamus]

Sakura Sakura Sakura Sakura-Chan, how I love you and hate you at the same time. Or to be more precise disappointed. You see Sakura is a good character and a bad character at the same time, same as Naruto.
I'm disappointed in the way Kishi is treating his heroine, I know the story is called "Naruto" and he is the main character and gets all the glory bla bla bla. And the fact that "Naruto" is a male orientated story, and Sakura is the woman so of course she's not going to do something absolutely amazing.
You see the way Kishi has portrayed Sakura is really good. The fact that she isn't selfish, the fact that she cares about others, that she played a role in this war, bla bla bla. Remember Naruto/Kurama, Sakura and Ino were the only ones connected to the entire Alliance. Naruto/Kurama and Sakura saved a lot of people in this war. While Naruto/Kurama was sharing his chakra to the entire Alliance; Sakura was the one that was healing them, later Tsunade joined in.
And let's not forget the fact that Sakura was the one that did everything she could to save Naruto. And not because she wants "Naruto-Kun" but because she actually cares about him and wants him to fully his dream. And this is just a fraction of what Sakura did.
So why am I disappointed in Sakura after I basically kissed her ass in what I said above. Well the answer is easy.
I expected MORE. I'm not sure you've noticed this but I never capitalize entire words, however this time I'm making an exception. Because I'm putting emphasis on that word.

I was expecting MORE from Sakura. After what she said about catching up to Naruto and Sasuke, and she never did not in chapter 632, not in chapter 676, not in chapter any number. Sure she displayed a lot of power but nowhere near close to Naruto or Sasuke.

I don't like the fact that she's keep getting rescued in situations that she could take care of herself. I don't like the fact that Kishi is making her realize that Sasuke just doesn't care right now in chapter well almost 700. I don't like that after her shining moment from 632 was reduced within a chapter to nothing more that a spectator. And I don't like that fact that the only thing left for her to do is to realize again and again that Sasuke doesn't care about her, and Naruto is amazing and to be with him.

Maybe all of this is somehow build up to Sakura getting a free power-up (just like everyone else) and she's play a big part in this fight or maybe she's going to grab some Popcorn and Pepsi and watch the fight as a spectator. 

I could talk about this for ages but I'm done.

[FireFox]

@narutofirefox
Lol now a day it ease to score + 3 goal to tiki taka team.
Whose your favorite to win World Cup?

Yeah lol that's true the tiki taka  just wasn't working in here the problem in here was i mean  Xavi , Iniesta and Busquets were good in the middle  but the defense and the attack were completely of  that is why they lost . As for who is my favorite i have to say Argentina and Spain but after this i'm not so sure about Spain anymore i may replace them with Netherlands LOL XD but Argentina is my ultimate favorite what about your team who's your fav ? Btw are you a Barca fan ? 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Should I remind you that this is first for Team 7 to happen? But I'm going home. Again, go through with everything and I mean everything. But patience is wearing thin, so I guess I can understand. Again, first time ever, but whatever, right?

[TheFirstEvil100]

Amen to this post. Seems like I'm not the only one about villains being victims. If you went through MGS, then you'll know Naruto. Part of the reason why I got hooked to the series.

Anyway, just relax. I'm sure everything is still being in place, especially since Hokages haven't arrived yet.

Well I have played all the MGS games and its killing me waiting for MGS 5 right now but from what I can see not only will this game be dark and full of blood but shows how Big Boss became the villain that he did, which I know will be very interesting I mean even Skull Face must have a reason for what he did people will still hate what he did to Paz, as I know I do but that is how war is sadly something that he wants to show with this game,

 

But I hear with this you can build your own base and look around it and fight your own men making them stronger, hell with the bosses you can add them to your ranks I hope.

 

I think some of the users here can do a much better job with Sakura's character right now instead of having her self-esteem crumble into nothing. If this is a build up(which is excruciating to read) just how long will it continue? 1 or 2 more chapters? Like BakeNeko & Romancegirl said, if all this self-esteem issues is truly just to get over Sasuke, being pissed would be the understatement of the year. Kishi could be going in a non-romantic direction with Sakura's character. But with all the recent anti SS moments that have happened, no one is wrong in thinking that Sakura is there right now to resolve her feelings for Sasuke.

 

The only reason why I still have this tiny bit of faith left in Kishi is because of all the inner monologue she's been having about catching up with the boys only to be put in the backseat ad realize she hasn't. kitten the romance. It'd be a crime for her character if this goes unresolved. I don't even care if it's the biggest asspull ever. I just want to see Sakura do something other than cry and moan about Sasuke-coon's opinion and Naruto to build her back up.

Well Luffyq1 we just have to pray to god that Kishi does it right if now then it shows how fanfic writers can give Sakura justice.

[Shadow Wolf]

People will always.find a reason to complain:

-OMG, we haven't seen Sakura in the past 2 chapters
-*Sakura appears* OMG, Sakura hasn't fought
-*Sakura fight* OMG, Sakura doesn't have a power up in ages
-*Sakura gets a power up* OMG, power up is crap.
-*shows power up with similar abilities to Tsunade* OMG, she's weaker than Naruto amd Sasuke
-*Sakura struggles with her feelings, juat like everu other himan being* OMG, just get over Sauce already...

I came to the realization that peopke like these will never be satisfied. As you can see, their expectations have reached a level where they will not cut any slack to the author because the atory is not going how "they" want to go. This is Kishi story, so enjoy the ride or comllain about it. However, don't go trying to ruin other people's optimism. I used to visit this site cause I cobsidered it a haven for NS fans. Now, it pretty much dissappoints me what almost everyone has left this place to become. Reply all you want to this post and put any consequence to it, but do know this: none will take the happiness away fron me and from those NS fans who are here to support each other instead of complaining because the story is not going as they want it to go.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well I have played all the MGS games and its killing me waiting for MGS 5 right now but from what I can see not only will this game be dark and full of blood but shows how Big Boss became the villain that he did, which I know will be very interesting I mean even Skull Face must have a reason for what he did people will still hate what he did to Paz, as I know I do but that is how war is sadly something that he wants to show with this game,
 
But I hear with this you can build your own base and look around it and fight your own men making them stronger, hell with the bosses you can add them to your ranks I hope.
 
Well Luffyq1 we just have to pray to god that Kishi does it right if now then it shows how fanfic writers can give Sakura justice.

I haven't play ground zeroes, but will soon. Still, 10 minutes demo that will cost you $30, really?

To be fair, fanfic writers can give ANYTHING justice or rather something that can fit with you better. But it's best to not to be outclass by wholesome. Different takes, yeah, hence fanfic, but that doesn't mean you can lay off from your own work. So yeah, in due time.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

People will always.find a reason to complain:

-OMG, we haven't seen Sakura in the past 2 chapters
-*Sakura appears* OMG, Sakura hasn't fought
-*Sakura fight* OMG, Sakura doesn't have a power up in ages
-*Sakura gets a power up* OMG, power up is crap.
-*shows power up with similar abilities to Tsunade* OMG, she's weaker than Naruto amd Sasuke
-*Sakura struggles with her feelings, juat like everu other himan being* OMG, just get over Sauce already...

I came to the realization that peopke like these will never be satisfied. As you can see, their expectations have reached a level where they will not cut any slack to the author because the atory is not going how "they" want to go. This is Kishi story, so enjoy the ride or comllain about it. However, don't go trying to ruin other people's optimism. I used to visit this site cause I cobsidered it a haven for NS fans. Now, it pretty much dissappoints me what almost everyone has left this place to become. Reply all you want to this post and put any consequence to it, but do know this: none will take the happiness away fron me and from those NS fans who are here to support each other instead of complaining because the story is not going as they want it to go.

Do you realize it's literally everything.
What's left with her character then?

She's not strong as Naruto and Sasuke, she doesnt have valid reasons to struggle neither her feelings for Sasuke werent strong to begin with to justify her long standing battle against it, she vows to stand as equal alongside Naruto and Sasuke, Kishimoto shows her punching some fodders and that's it, tells us that she's stronger than Tsunade and yet she is trolled by Tsunade on Shiakamru's moment, she gets powerups and ends up being trolled with Naruto getting powerups that outshine her healing abilities.
Says she's smarter than Naruto and Sasuke and ends up being once again in another damsel in distress situation, is called as useless by Sasuke and her self esteem is crushed.

Then what's left to expect about Sakura's character?

If you have no expectatives towards Sakura then it's better to admit she's a failed character than calling people out.
That's basically how i feel towards her character, from a heroine of a battle shounen on the begining of part 2, to a pairing drama character.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 June 2014 - 10:34 PM.

[sushi.]

My standards for Sakura are almost as great as her two teammates. The manga is not about a duo, it is a trio. A team of three, or four if you'd like. The fourth already had a major arc all about him and his past.

 

I will be satisfied when kishi starts treating her as a main character. She's been on the sidelines for so long that people here have gotten used to it. Some have compared her with side characters. "She's done more than the other rookies!", mhm.

[Sakura~]

People will always.find a reason to complain:

-OMG, we haven't seen Sakura in the past 2 chapters
-*Sakura appears* OMG, Sakura hasn't fought
-*Sakura fight* OMG, Sakura doesn't have a power up in ages
-*Sakura gets a power up* OMG, power up is crap.
-*shows power up with similar abilities to Tsunade* OMG, she's weaker than Naruto amd Sasuke
-*Sakura struggles with her feelings, juat like everu other himan being* OMG, just get over Sauce already...

I came to the realization that peopke like these will never be satisfied. As you can see, their expectations have reached a level where they will not cut any slack to the author because the atory is not going how "they" want to go. This is Kishi story, so enjoy the ride or comllain about it. However, don't go trying to ruin other people's optimism. I used to visit this site cause I cobsidered it a haven for NS fans. Now, it pretty much dissappoints me what almost everyone has left this place to become. Reply all you want to this post and put any consequence to it, but do know this: none will take the happiness away fron me and from those NS fans who are here to support each other instead of complaining because the story is not going as they want it to go.

you're kinda right. I wouldn't give my final opinion opinion unless the manga is finished, sure I admit that she's not perfect, but those annoying imperfections are what makes her endearing. I still love her with all my heart no matter what. I agree with you that we should support each other instead of complaining. I just don't like how this thread turned out.

Edited by Sakura~, 13 June 2014 - 10:39 PM.

[JILLNYN]

I am  angry with those who judge Sakura for 2 chapters of  Kaguya battle are you kidding me?! ,I have seen more positive comments on Sakura haters

By the way, and to change the subject (I'm a little tired of the useless Sakura paranoia) are you realize that all fandoms are beginning to attack against NS?

I Entered on deviantart and find 10394865 anti-NS and all from  NH, SS, some SN vs NS

I think that the more NS approach the canon they will become more aggressive is madness

Edited by JILLNYN, 13 June 2014 - 10:47 PM.

[Syn11]

In my opinion, we can cut Sakura some slack, but we shouldn't do so when it comes to Kishimoto. He's the one behind the heroine pulling the strings. And I'm pretty sure he provided a lot of opportunities for Sakura but chose not to act on those. And that's why I feel what I feel when so many opportunities (and my own expectations) were tossed aside. Yet I still hope that Kishimoto knows what he's doing and will rectify the situation because I got really  tired explaining to others why Sakura's recent behavior can be justified. In essence, I'm tired of justifying Kishimoto's depiction of the main heroine.   

Edited by Syn11, 14 June 2014 - 12:57 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I am  angry with those who judge Sakura for 2 chapters of  Kaguya battle are you kidding me?! ,I have seen more positive comments on Sakura haters

By the way, and to change the subject (I'm a little tired of the useless Sakura paranoia) are you realize that all fandoms are beginning to attack against NS?

I Entered on deviantart and find 10394865 anti-NS and all from  NH, SS, some SN vs NS

I think that the more NS approach the canon they will become more aggressive is madness

No one here's judging her on two chapters, those two last chapters were the pinnacle really.
War Arc until last few chapters.
Let me begin on this arc : She gots a powerup, raises her self esteem that was really low, she says "I'm Sakura Haruno the disciple of the 5th hokage", "i'll no longer be a damsel in distress".

Positive -> Manages to cooperate with Naruto's powers, speech towards the alliance.
Negative -> Once again is put on a damsel in distress.


Later
Comes a key point to display of her powers, Shikamaru is dying and needs help, Naruto cant save Shikamaru and it comes down to Sakura, Sakura also cant manage to save Shikamaru, Tsunade jumps in and heal.
Accomplishments (Positive).

Second part.
Positive - With Obito's help saves Naruto's life.
Negative - Cares about Sasuke's opinion about her, put in two damsel in distress situations in less than 3 chapters, becomes desperate at not reaching Naruto and Sasuke's asspulls, goes back to low self esteem once again.
Kishimoto doesnt prove she's stronger than Tsunade, makes Sakura to care about Sasuke's opinion about her when earlier she didnt give two kittens about him, and later damsel in distress.

In contrast when on the begining she was strong, self confident, wanted to protect her teammates, showed how intelligent she was.
Kishimoto just neede two chapters to destroy all this, by her not being capable of helping Naruto during the 4th bridge and later because Sasuke doesnt care about her.

I mean really.
 

In my opinion, we can cut Sakura some slack, but we shouldn't do so when it comes to Kishimoto. He's the one behind the heroine pulling the strings. And I'm pretty sure he provided a lot of opportunities for Sakura but chose not to act on those. And that's why I feel what I feel when so many opportunities (and my own expectations) were tossed aside. Yet I still hope that Kishimoto knows what he's doing and will rectify the situation because I'm really tired explaining to others why Sakura's recent behavior can be justified. In essence, I'm tired of justifying Kishimoto's depiction of the main heroine.

Me too, i know this.
Every time i fail to realize what he really wants to accomplish with her character, she does heroineish stuff but none of those related to battle prowess but rather feelings and proving she can do everything to the hero "Naruto", example confession and etc..
But the problem is that this is not shoujo or a simply shounen but a battle shounen so the heroine is not just a girl that support the hero emotionally, but also complimenting his abilities not necessarily being strong as he is, and to add quality they have their own path/backstory.

Sakura had glimpses of being capable of helping Naruto in battle, she did it recently before Naruto's powerup when she managed to heal the alliance and make Naruto to not worry about saving people around because she had his back (that's the job of the heroine) but to finish comes my personal side, i find it bad the fact she has no background or her own path to walk, she's tied to Team 7 as whole and her development is completely emotionaly driven towards romance.
Kishimoto has very little focus on her path as a ninja.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 June 2014 - 11:09 PM.

[rocci]

@narutofirefox
Well xavi and iniesta already past their prime.
Argentina has messi and at least maradona isn't the coach.
My favorite is Brazil or German.
No, I'm chelsea fan.

People upset with sakura because she doesn't as important as naruto & sasuke.
Sasuke will not important if not for narusasu fight as the last battle of this manga.
It's all about naruto.

[luffyq1]

It feels like the series is reaching its end so of course I'm concerned on what direction Kishi is going with Sakura. I sometimes wish she never was involved in this romance because lately it feels like that's the only thing Kishi can do with her character.

[JILLNYN]

 

Second part.
Positive - With Obito's help saves Naruto's life.
Negative - Cares about Sasuke's opinion about her, put in two damsel in distress situations in less than 3 chapters, becomes desperate at not reaching Naruto and Sasuke's asspulls, goes back to low self esteem once again.
Kishimoto doesnt prove she's stronger than Tsunade, makes Sakura to care about Sasuke's opinion about her when earlier she didnt give two kittens about him, and later damsel in distress.

 

In contrast when on the begining she was strong, self confident, wanted to protect her teammates, showed how intelligent she was.
Kishimoto just neede two chapters to destroy all this, by her not being capable of helping Naruto during the 4th bridge and later because Sasuke doesnt care about her.

I mean really.          

But Sakura is a strong and intelligent character that never had to faced her greatest weakness and its most vulnerable point as a character, which are her feelings for Sasuke that bring negativity and misery.

That has nothing to do with her skills and strength, are there have not disappeared, because she is more human doesn't mean that she is more weaker, all those times when she shine as a character was not present negativity of Sasuke that not was facing then.

I think Kishimoto is making that Sakura facing with her feelings for Sasuke with the utmost brutality, this had never happened, that is why she has missed many opportunities to shine for her emotional state, I think it's a purpose for drama factor and makes her character believable if she struggles and shows how awesome ninja she is right now any reader don't understand that she is in an emotional crisis.

Before and after the war Sakura was depressed, sad and disappointment  and what happened? overcame and did all that she could to reasonable scope of their powers to help the alliance, is not the first time that Sakura enters in emotional crisis, has already been through a lot and all have recovered, but this is the largest and hardest of all that has been face her emotional vulnerability.

Sakura has to face her inner emotional battle to cope after their battle to be respected in team 7, Kishimoto can not develop without the other and the emotional battle is Step 1

 

yeah this my opinion and think that we must be wait for this.

 

 

[TheFirstEvil100]

To me I'm not even exited about the next chapter as we all know it will be more SasuNaru Battle with Sasuke again saying how useless Sakura and Kakashi are again, its why I may take a long brake from Naruto. 

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

But Sakura is a strong and intelligent character that never had to faced her greatest weakness and its most vulnerable point as a character, which are her feelings for Sasuke that bring negativity and misery.

She was faced against her weakness when she fought up against Sasori, she didnt had Naruto and Sasuke or Kakashi she had to rely on her abilities.
 

That has nothing to do with her skills and strength, are there have not disappeared, because she is more human doesn't mean that she is more weaker, all those times when she shine as a character was not present negativity of Sasuke that not was facing then.

Her only aspect of being human is the fact she let her emotion get the best of her.
She "died" when Sasuke tried to kill her two times, she let her emotion takes the best of her during those moments and she was finished, if apparently she had learned that lesson up until now.
Like she did previously, she put her feelings aside from a moment and did great things as a member of team 7 and saved Naruto.
And now suddenly is wanting to know Sasuke's opinion, and let her emotions took the best of her when she charged against Madara.

 

I think Kishimoto is making that Sakura facing with her feelings for Sasuke with the utmost brutality, this had never happened, that is why she has missed many opportunities to shine for her emotional state, I think it's a purpose for drama factor and makes her character believable if she struggles and shows how awesome ninja she is right now any reader don't understand that she is in an emotional crisis.

As much as people want to believe, she's not facing against her feelings for Sasuke becase this "development" leads to nowhere, the buildup is horrible, it's being based on Sasuke not caring about his former teammates and that's ridiculous since he will be redeemed and he will care about them afterwards.
 

Before and after the war Sakura was depressed, sad and disappointment  and what happened? overcame and did all that she could to reasonable scope of their powers to help the alliance, is not the first time that Sakura enters in emotional crisis, has already been through a lot and all have recovered, but this is the largest and hardest of all that has been face her emotional vulnerability.

Sakura has to face her inner emotional battle to cope after their battle to be respected in team 7, Kishimoto can not develop without the other and the emotional battle is Step 1
 
yeah this my opinion and think that we must be wait for this.

She will never be respected as a team 7 if she doesnt respect herself, her internal battle is ridiculous because she's a medical ninja and to make matters worse she doesnt value her accomplishments, she thinks she's useless and her self esteem looks like Mr. Bones "The ride never ends".

Just my opinion though.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 13 June 2014 - 11:55 PM.

[Atheck]

My standards for Sakura are almost as great as her two teammates. The manga is not about a duo, it is a trio. A team of three, or four if you'd like. The fourth already had a major arc all about him and his past.

 

I will be satisfied when kishi starts treating her as a main character. She's been on the sidelines for so long that people here have gotten used to it. Some have compared her with side characters. "She's done more than the other rookies!", mhm.

 

That whole thing about Sakura being an "intermediate character" comes to mind. Whether it's to accommodate the flawed,self-deprecating teenager that she comes across as or if it's for some other reason, Kishi has done a very good job in stirring the emotional flames in people. I can't say that there isn't a part of me that doesn't want to see that happen as well. But to pay witness to Sakura coming out of her shell with unshakable courage that rivals Naruto and Sasuke after a little bit of pondering on her own self-confidence and worth as she conjures up powers never before seen in the hundreds of chapters since she reappeared in Part 2? It's like making a great leap from her dubious position with the best of the Rookies to the small group of legends who dictate the course of history in the Narutoverse.

 

It would be satisfying just to watch Sakura have one more go at the central position she had during the Kazekage Rescue mission in the next arc. She's already been exposed to dangers far beyond anything that the normal world can fathom. Orochimaru and his cronies should pose no danger to her confidence unless they intentionally force her in a position where she feels helpless and demoralised. But if Sakura is able to steady her quivering hand in the presence of Madara, there's nothing that should hold her back from doing her job. 

Edited by Atheck, 14 June 2014 - 12:49 AM.

[JILLNYN]

 

She was faced against her weakness when she fought up against Sasori, she didnt had Naruto and Sasuke or Kakashi she had to rely on her abilities.

I'm talking about her major weakness which is her feelings for Sasuke and the damage these negative feelings cause to her self-esteem during the battle Sasori she doesn't have contact with sasuke.

 

 

As much as people want to believe, she's not facing against her feelings for Sasuke becase this "development" leads to nowhere, the buildup is horrible, it's being based on Sasuke not caring about his former teammates and that's ridiculous since he will be redeemed and he will care about them afterwards.

but she does not know that, I also think Sasuke will be redeemed although I do not like the idea because all deaths caused for Sasuke (although this is another issue), part of the happiness of Sakura is that Team 7 again laugh together , this is another cause of her sadness ...

The negative feelings that Sasuke produce their self-esteem is something that has to face and overcome so that she herself love again regardless of the opinion of Sasuke, I think that is important development for her character and becomes a powerful true ninja.

 

 

 

She will never be respected as a team 7 if she doesnt respect herself, her internal battle is ridiculous because she's a medical ninja and to make matters worse she doesnt value her accomplishments, she thinks she's useless and her self esteem looks like Mr. Bones "The ride never ends".

 

exactly this is her character development that she need for overcome Sasuke words.

 

for that we need to wait

[Don-kun]

People will always.find a reason to complain:

-OMG, we haven't seen Sakura in the past 2 chapters
-*Sakura appears* OMG, Sakura hasn't fought
-*Sakura fight* OMG, Sakura doesn't have a power up in ages
-*Sakura gets a power up* OMG, power up is crap.
-*shows power up with similar abilities to Tsunade* OMG, she's weaker than Naruto amd Sasuke
-*Sakura struggles with her feelings, juat like everu other himan being* OMG, just get over Sauce already...

I came to the realization that peopke like these will never be satisfied. As you can see, their expectations have reached a level where they will not cut any slack to the author because the atory is not going how "they" want to go. This is Kishi story, so enjoy the ride or comllain about it. However, don't go trying to ruin other people's optimism. I used to visit this site cause I cobsidered it a haven for NS fans. Now, it pretty much dissappoints me what almost everyone has left this place to become. Reply all you want to this post and put any consequence to it, but do know this: none will take the happiness away fron me and from those NS fans who are here to support each other instead of complaining because the story is not going as they want it to go.

This is one of the best post I read in the last 2+ months, men I thought that I would spend a lot of time on this forum on my vacation but it as being nothing but a lot of complains about Sakura same reason why I no longer visit the Sakura FC in NF.