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[Hanabi]

long hair sakura :3

By Unhai

 

 

 

But rotation makes sense. If you release chakra and spin than a barrier is kind of plausible. It's like putting water hoses in your hand and spinning or better yet a sprinkler.

 

Like here it makes an arch. Lion fists makes zero sense imo. Even chidori and rasengan had origins. (Including hidden lotus, medical ninjutsu, Edo Tensei....)

Can't have that can we no we cannot. Here this man is hokage and his hand feels really nice. He might have feelings for another man but he needs a housemaid/babymaker/babysitter. Interested?

 

 

iirc hanabi was shocked to see kaiten in the chunin exams and she said something along the lines of "father it's your technique!".. so i would say it's on par with lion fists..

 

how dare you insult hanabi like that

Edited by Hanabi, 26 October 2015 - 06:52 AM.

[Bail o' Lies]

long hair sakura :3

By Unhai

iirc hanabi was shocked to see kaiten in the chunin exams and she said something along the lines of "father it's your technique!".. so i would say it's on par with lion fists..

 

how dare you insult hanabi like that

The kaiten sounded like it was a major technique that only the main branch was allowed to learn. It involve releasing chakra from all your point and then spining to create "the ultimate hyuga defense technique." The fact that neji was able to come with it apparently all on his own prove to Hinata's dad just how much of a genius he was. The lion paw is by comparison just a technique that increase the strength of the standard palm attacks. Their nothing really special about it other than it looks cool and it was introduce later in the series. Also it was hinata's technique so it must be super duper strong because it the goddess's move.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 26 October 2015 - 10:57 AM.

[Hanabi]

anti ss

Really, whats the point. This, then the infamous chidori scene. I dont get kishis logic in developing them. Maybe he has a sick sense of humor

The kaiten sounded like it was a major technique that only the main branch was allowed to learn. It involve releasing chakra from all your point and then spining to create "the ultimate hyuga defense technique." The fact that neji was able to come with it apparently all on his own prove to Hinata's dad just how much of a genius he was. The lion paw is by comparison just a technique that increase the strength of the standard palm attacks. Their nothing really special about it other than it looks cool and it was introduce later in the series. Also it was hinata's technique so it must be super duper strong because it the goddess's move.

lion paw LOL that sounds adorable. Also its not her technique, its the hyuga main family, i bet hanabi knows it and invented other cooler techniques.. maybe a flying chakra arrow xD

Edited by Hanabi, 26 October 2015 - 12:17 PM.

[narusaku256]

[Spoiler=anti ss][img]http://41.media.tumb...1qzkaq7o1_r1_12
Really, whats the point. This, then the infamous chidori scene. I dont get kishis logic in developing them. Maybe he has a sick sense of h
lion paw LOL that sounds adorable. Also its not her technique, its the hyuga main family, i bet hanabi knows it and invented other cooler techniques.. maybe a flying chakra arrow xD

Naruto feels are taking over you again

[Hanabi]

hello mods i would like to report a stalker ^

[Shadow1275]

how dare you insult hanabi like that

No? Ok while then how about this man. He's looking for a uterus to repopulate his clan. Sure he may be a bit crazy and you might only see him once in a blue moon but he is full of hate....love and he has perfect DNA in his looks and abilities. Plus the other women say he's super Hawt. Ignore the rumors though, the murder attempts are lies. His exes are just joking.

 

Edited by Shadow1275, 26 October 2015 - 01:13 PM.

[Hanabi]

No? Ok while then how about this man. He's looking for a uterus to repopulate his clan. Sure he may be a bit crazy and you might only see him once in a blue moon but he is full of hate....love and he has perfect DNA in his looks and abilities. Plus the other women say he's super Hawt. Ignore the rumors though, the murder attempts are lies. His exes are just joking.

i'm not interested in hobos

[narusaku256]

hello mods i would like to report a stalker ^

I ain't no Hinata!!! Damn you

[AHK]

But we also have to admit what Naruto had for Sakura was not love either. Since we have no choice but to acknowledge the Last as canon.

I don't understand how some people can find anything likeable about the characters anymore.

See, the thing is that I don't even have to take the last as canon, as Sakura and Hinata not loving Sasuke and Naruto was the case before the last even came out. Sakura never loved Sasuke. Hinata never loved Naruto. Before the retcon, that wasn't the case with Naruto.

They love naruto and sasuke.
I don't think they were using them.

They clearly didn't. It was never about Naruto and Sasuke, it was about what Naruto and Sasuke could do for them. They didn't love them, they loved the validation that being with Naruto and Sasuke would bring them. They never once for a single second loved them.

[sushi.]

They love naruto and sasuke.
I don't think they were using them.

Just because the feelings were romantic doesn't mean it was love. 😕

[TheFirstEvil100]

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[rocci]

Just because the feelings were romantic doesn't mean it was love. 😕

I don't understand, if it's romantic then it must be love.

@ahk
But both of them show romantic attraction to naruto & sasuke. It's count as love in my opinion.

[Nostradamus]

I don't understand, if it's romantic then it must be love.

@ahk
But both of them show romantic attraction to naruto & sasuke. It's count as love in my opinion.

So you're confusing attraction with love?

[rocci]

So you're confusing attraction with love?

No, I include it with love.

[Shadow1275]

i'm not interested in hobos

Hmm all right then well how about this guy then? He's super Strong, Intelligent, Handsome, Suave, Cool, Egalitarian, Handsome, Streetsmart, Wise, Caring, Handsome, Hot, Smexy, Handsome, Quick Thinking, Kind, Charming, and did I mention Handsome?

[AHK]

I don't understand, if it's romantic then it must be love.
@ahk
But both of them show romantic attraction to naruto & sasuke. It's count as love in my opinion.

To love someone you have to love them. They didn't love them, they loved their status. It's not the same thing.

[rocci]

To love someone you have to love them. They didn't love them, they loved their status. It's not the same thing.

No, it's still love. A romantic love.
No, they love the person too.

[Nostradamus]

No, I include it with love.

Well they're different and even in fiction.

 

No, it's still love. A romantic love.
No, they love the person too.

Sorry mate but they didn't. Hinata never loved Naruto, and Sakura never loved Sasuke. They loved the image, the status, what they represented, a shadow, a false perception, etc. whatever you want to call it. But never the person.

And this is me objectively looking at the story, not what I think it is or Kishi's idiotic interviews that are filled with lies and contradicts and a lot of stupid.

If you want to see something else that's fine, but that's not the truth.

 

To love someone you have to love them. They didn't love them, they loved their status. It's not the same thing.

Precisely.

Edited by Nostradamus, 27 October 2015 - 03:54 AM.

[Shadow1275]

I don't understand, if it's romantic then it must be love.

@ahk
But both of them show romantic attraction to naruto & sasuke. It's count as love in my opinion.

That's not romance at all. You can't have a relationship based on one partner being interested and the other partner not. There was never anything from Sasuke showing that he was interested. Even after she once again said she loved him and cried in front of his face, he flat out rejected her without any crack in his defense. If he cared, the pain in her voice and expression would have cracked him. There was no connection in 693, and therefore she couldn't reach him.

 

The same applies for Naruto and Hinata. Even with 615 he never showed romantic interest in her. 631 showed he still had feelings for Sakura. Even after his fight with Sasuke it's clear that he hadn't moved on. They had to devote an entire movie to genjutsuing (Read Brainwashing) him into caring about her. That's not love, or romance. It's its twisted alter ego, Obsession. Love is not obsession, it is mature. It's finding the balance between you and the other person, not recklessly charging into something because of a decades long harbored fantasy. And honestly this is why most relationships these days fail and why there are so many NH/SS fans. It's escapism. In many ways we've lost our maturity and more important our selflessness. We want things now, like getting kissed for saving the girl even though we haven't even taken the time to know the other person. We want specifics when it comes to our relationships before we even test the waters. We want stories to end in certain ways or certain things to happen and if they don't then they are obviously bad. And not all people are like this of course but right now they are in the minority.

 

Love takes sacrifice. Sasuke could have cared less about anything and was not willing to sacrifice his own revenge and goals. Hinata wasn't willing to sacrifice Naruto even if he didn't care for her. Sakura wasn't willing to sacrifice her obsession and feelings for Sasuke even though he rejected her time and time again.

 

Only Naruto was willing to put his love interest's feelings before his own. Only he was willing to take chances and get to know the one he cared about. Only he was willing to be patient and let time and bonding lead the way. And the sacrifice counts, because it shows you are committed to something greater than just yourself. And 9 times out of 10 it strengthens the relationship.

Edited by Shadow1275, 27 October 2015 - 03:55 AM.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

No, it's still love. A romantic love.
No, they love the person too.

Love and attraction do not go perfectly hand-in-hand.

As others mentioned, it was not true "love" as much as it was just shallow attraction to the fantastical ideas of what Hinata/Sakura thought Naruto/Sasuke were in their own minds.

To Sakura, Sasuke was always thought of as some fairy tale style knight in shining armor who would come sweeping her off her feet whenever she was a damsel in distress, then they would ride off into the sunset and live happily ever after, and yet, despite Sasuke's multiple flat out rejections, Sakura refused to accept reality, pushing it off as Sasuke playing hard to get.

To Hinata, Naruto personified what she wished she could be herself - overcoming adversity (in general), being more outgoing, not letting the words of others hold him down, and so on. The problem is that Hinata never actually tried to improve herself on her own time, but rather just continued to leech confidence off of Naruto's own suffering. Basically, she only gets "stronger" and "inspired" if she actually sees Naruto getting knocked down, but continuing to get up and keep going. If not, then she's very, very quick to give up (which is greatly personified with her infamous rock tripping scene).

If it were a true romantic love, then Hinata/Sakura would have put in far more effort to try to learn whatever they could about Naruto/Sasuke and understand their reasons for thinking/acting as they do, actually converse with them about various topics, get their thoughts and opinions on things (not just on their feelings towards them), actually care about what Naruto/Sasuke wanted and not just what they themselves felt about everything. Whenever Hinata/Sakura brought up their "love" for Naruto/Sasuke, it was always about how they themselves felt, never once thinking about how Naruto/Sasuke felt about it, like they just assumed that Naruto/Sasuke would just instantly kneel down and propose instantly after hearing their words.

All Sakura ever did when interacting with Sasuke most of the time was either asking him out on dates or trying to guilt trip him with speeches about how she (believes she) feels about him, and Hinata just flat out fainted a majority of the time with Naruto after barely stuttering out his name. Otherwise, it's only when things look bad does she actually initiate anything, because she believes that they're going to die, so she figures she may as well just throw her words out there as they're all going to be dead soon, so she won't have to deal with the aftermath. Just look at how they speak to Naruto/Sasuke when it comes to their "feelings"; it's all "me, me, me, I, I, I" speak.