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[lelouch the lord]

Hey guys, I'm new to the site. love the pairing. but something always bothered me when we entered the 480 chapters. I heard some people say that sakura really intended to betray konoha and join sasuke but changed her mind when he tried to kill her. Now while I disagree with this and believe that it was a ruse for her to get close and kill him, I can't help but be a little worried and that maybe they are right. any thoughts?

[Derock]

Hey guys, I'm new to the site. love the pairing. but something always bothered me when we entered the 480 chapters. I heard some people say that sakura really intended to betray konoha and join sasuke but changed her mind when he tried to kill her. Now while I disagree with this and believe that it was a ruse for her to get close and kill him, I can't help but be a little worried and that maybe they are right. any thoughts?

Hello and welcome to the forums.

For your question, don't believe what those people said. Because in that situation, Sakura said that statement in order for Sasuke to fully trust her (until she hestitated). It was more of faking the issue until getting the opportunity to betray and kill when he's caught off-guard.

[Greed-Sama]

Hey guys, I'm new to the site. love the pairing. but something always bothered me when we entered the 480 chapters. I heard some people say that sakura really intended to betray konoha and join sasuke but changed her mind when he tried to kill her. Now while I disagree with this and believe that it was a ruse for her to get close and kill him, I can't help but be a little worried and that maybe they are right. any thoughts?

I'm pretty sure we've covered this, but let's think about it.If Sakura really wants to defect then why on this green's earth would she tell the Konoha 9 about this devious plan. As soon as she disappears and her body isn't found, then she's caught. Bam! She's now a missing-nin and any inkling of secrecy she might be able to pull has now washed down the drain. Sakura is intelligent, a little emotionally unstable, but still intellegent.

[Living Lavish]

some fans will say anything because they have nothing else to there pairing. they really think Sakura was gonna betray Konoha and Naruto? theres nothing in the manga to even suggest this. she wanted sasuke trust so she could kill him. are they reading the same manga?

[Torxe]

The rest of the village didn't give up on Sasuke until just recently. Well, at least those that matter: the Konoha 12.

And I don't mean dumbing down as in acting stupid. I mean Kishi forced his character to change in order to benefit another character. He definitely changed Sakura to fit this. We go from, 'We'll bring him back together', a very important point for Sakura at the close of part I. To, 'I'll bring back Sasuke for you', also a very important moment where Sakura's interest shifts. To, 'I'll believe in both of them', essentially excluding herself from the dilemma that had been a center piece for both of them throughout the entire manga.

Doesn't it seem like something is odd here? The previous two meant she would take action. The last, simply faith. She stood aside to let Naruto do his thing. To me, that isn't how Sakura works. She doesn't just sit idle, she wants to be included. She is the one who didn't want to see their turned backs. Just believing in them is just watching. That is OOC for her.

Why would Kishi make her say this? Because he wanted the focus to be on Naruto, is my thought. Naruto's final decision was more important, and if he was made the last member of the village, and even the last member of team 7 that still would fight for Sasuke, then he would just look even more heroic. That's what that whole arc was moving towards: Naruto's final decision on what to do about Sasuke. That, over everything else, over what the rookies and even the girl who had loved Sasuke, he would not give up. Because only Naruto can be the one who stops the cycle of hatred. Which is fine, I know this story is about Naruto. I just don't appreciate forcing characters to fit a certain mold at any given time when previously they wouldn't have acted in such a way.

tbh for me it didn't feel OOC for her when I read it (face it Naruto and Sasuke are way stronger than Sakura/anyone in Konoha), it's just that she realizes that she can't help Naruto in actual combat anymore => or Kishi could pull one on us an give Sakura a power boost with her talent for genjutsu?

And there's a big difference in watching and believing, look at when Naruto fought Kiba during the Chunin exams everyone was watching but only Sakura and Kakashi where believing in him. Kakashi agreed to go to see Raikage after Naruto told him that yondaime said he believed in him. Nagato resurrected half the village after he stated that he would also believe in Naruto just like Jiraiya did...

Regardless of what he had Sakura say or do, I still hope that Kishi intends to include her with whatever happens with Sasuke. At least for some closure for team 7.

I agree, I still hope/think that Sakura will be present at the last battle

[lelouch the lord]

At one point in the chapter 474, naruto is looking down remembering sakura when she was there and thinking about what sai was saying regarding her confession. he seems a little upset while doing this, could this mean he is upset at her for doing this to him? I know that he doesn't hate her now and that he still sees her as one of his wonderful friends, that is quite clear and confirmed, but what if his feelings for her changed?

[Living Lavish]

Sakura is one of his precious people the first female to enter his life and aknowledge him. Naruto is truly IN love with Sakura that will never change. hes shown that with his actions. why would he give up his love for her? naruto never gives up on anything dude. look at what Sasuke has done to him and he still calls him his friend. calling her Sakura-chan is proof enough. i don't know how obvious it can get. To answer your question Naruto looked down because he couldn't believe she was gong after sasuke to kill him and his picture of Team 7 was falling apart in his mind. everything was going down hill why do you think he fainted.

Edited by Living Lavish, 18 February 2011 - 04:57 AM.

[ciardha]

At one point in the chapter 474, naruto is looking down remembering sakura when she was there and thinking about what sai was saying regarding her confession. he seems a little upset while doing this, could this mean he is upset at her for doing this to him? I know that he doesn't hate her now and that he still sees her as one of his wonderful friends, that is quite clear and confirmed, but what if his feelings for her changed?

Only in the sense that it deepened and matured his feelings- it broke his mental image of the unattainable 12 year old Sakura who had the never to be fulfilled crush on Sasuke. This happens right before his mental picture of Team 7 shatters.

By the time he rescues her from Sasuke he's processed this and he's being more physically expressive of love for Sakura. Note as well the words he uses to yell at Sasuke, absolutely nothing about Sakura having romantic feelings for Sasuke, he berates Sasuke for not treating Sakura as a member of Team 7 too. And more overt proof of a deepening but more realistic romantic love he has now for Sakura- and certainty in her love for him- look at his mental image of his age peers when he thinks he wishes he could have introduced them to his mother. Sakura is the only one Naruto sees having her full attention on him, and she smiles and looks openly very loving toward him.

If you want to point to anyone in manga canon who's confession to him looks to have had a lasting negative impact on his opinion of her it's Hinata. Look at Naruto's mental image of his age peers again. Hinata looks completely away from him, is frowning, shadowed, and closed off in her body language.

[Madz]

Jumping in too...
For me, a very strong moment when I really got fully into Sakura was when during the Pain invasion, she yelled for Naruto...
When I read that part, I was like Whoa...To me, it was confirmation to me that even if she had not really realised it yet, she placed Naruto above everyone and everything.
Usually, in dire situations and when you feel you are about to die, you think of the one you are closest to, or in most cases, you think of God. Here, she thought of Naruto. Her calling out for Naruto showed her total belief and faith in him.
From this point, I was TOTALLY hooked on Narusaku.
I was very surprised when later I read how anti-Sakura fans claimed that as usual, Sakura was just weak and did nothing to help Naruto while Hinata (brave Hinata) jumped in at her own life risk.
But my interpretation in all this, Sakura had 110 % belief in Naruto (which is what Naruto has always wanted from people), where as Hinata did what her father had always warned her not to do - getting in the way (Despite the clear instructions from Naruto not to have anyone interfering in the fight).
There, I had to get that off my chest.

Madz.

[Greed-Sama]

If you want to point to anyone in manga canon who's confession to him looks to have had a lasting negative impact on his opinion of her it's Hinata. Look at Naruto's mental image of his age peers again. Hinata looks completely away from him, is frowning, shadowed, and closed off in her body language.

Eh...I don't think Kishi actually intended that. If Hinata's confession really did affect Naruto in a negative way then Naruto has digressed as a character. His view hasn't changed, her demeanor has. Some say that her confession against Pain brought her closure, even if she didn't have those feelings reciprocated. I think that she does want those feelings reciprocated. In fact I'm a little angry with Naruto for not even acknowledging it. I'm by no means a Naru/Hina fan, but I still want the integrity of these characters to be protected.

Edited by TheOmegaMan, 18 February 2011 - 05:55 AM.

[merryGOflava]

hey im probably going off the topic from the ones above. but didnt hinata already accept naruto and sakura when she smiled at them when sakura hugged him??? it seems kishi did that to show them that hinata wont interfere or something.

[Greed-Sama]

hey im probably going off the topic from the ones above. but didnt hinata already accept naruto and sakura when she smiled at them when sakura hugged him??? it seems kishi did that to show them that hinata wont interfere or something.

I'm pretty sure you're correct on that. I just think that there is a sense of awkwardness though.

[Torxe]

hey im probably going off the topic from the ones above. but didnt hinata already accept naruto and sakura when she smiled at them when sakura hugged him??? it seems kishi did that to show them that hinata wont interfere or something.

My opinion exactly, she just stood around like the other Konoha 11. She didn't even help throwing him up in the air (however I think that would be entirely out of character for her).

[Otaru]

I'm a little late, but about what Sai said to Naruto, I've a friend who can translate japanese, and Sai said " Sakura didn't come here to confess her love "
So he didn't said that Sakura don't love Naruto.
He said that she tried to hide what she was going to do for Sasuke.

[theorangehokage]

^^^^ HOLY. kitten!!! ! What does mean for NS ?

[Otaru]

Omega man, maybe Naruto already give a response to Hinata, because he was touched by her intervention.
But maybe Kishi keeps that for later...
Maybe it will appear later in some flashback.
And we 'll get the response.
But i think it will be at the very end.

Edited by Otaru, 19 February 2011 - 03:14 AM.

[Miss Soupy]

Eh...I don't think Kishi actually intended that. If Hinata's confession really did affect Naruto in a negative way then Naruto has digressed as a character. His view hasn't changed, her demeanor has. Some say that her confession against Pain brought her closure, even if she didn't have those feelings reciprocated. I think that she does want those feelings reciprocated. In fact I'm a little angry with Naruto for not even acknowledging it. I'm by no means a Naru/Hina fan, but I still want the integrity of these characters to be protected.

I agree here. People can try to claim how people were drawn there meant something or not. They won't get anywhere with it, it was merely meant to show Naruto's nakama. Naruto having negative feelings towards her for that would just be out of character for him and pointless to the story. How he feels about her isn't even relevant to the plot.

As far as Naruto not acknowledging it being good or bad, I have two theories on that. One is that Kishi is just being random with pairings again. He is sometimes disjointed with them, or just doesn't follow up on some things. But it could also be left alone because the confession was for Hinata's benefit more than it was Naruto's. Perhaps her thoughtful expression meant closure. Maybe not. Either way, Kishi didn't really make it clear, but at this point it would feel strange, to me, if it was suddenly brought up again after everything. So I dunno, I can't see Naruto talking to her about it at this point, but I don't think this has affected his thinking of her at all. If anything, it remains as static as ever.

[Akashi]

Why are we even talking about Hinata here??? I mean, I am so worried about Naruto and Sakura right now, 'cause we don't know what Kishi plans on doing... a-and all those NS haters (aka Hinata fans) have been so aggressive lately.... I don't even visit other forums because of that. Haters, haters everywhere. I'm going insane. Cheer me up, please?

Edited by Meek, 20 February 2011 - 04:04 PM.

[cnving101]

Why are we even talking about Hinata here??? I mean, I am so worried about Naruto and Sakura right now, 'cause we don't know what Kishi plans on doing... a-and all those NS haters (aka Hinata fans) have been so aggressive lately, and stuff like that.... I'm going insane.

Just keep confident. Besides, I think it's pretty obvious what Kishi plans on doing.

[Akashi]

Hehe, I know I must be strong, but still... Those NS haters are everywhere I go! And all they're talking about Is Hinata, Hinata, Hinata!!! agggrrr... It pisses me off so much. OTL

Edited by Meek, 20 February 2011 - 04:09 PM.