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[AHK]

Wait, what? In fight it was shown, that Doffy wiped floor with Luffy enough times to all people, to understand that without Law he woudn't even touch him.

Lol

[FoolishYoungling]

Luffy is gonna be the Gol D. Roger of his era, and Law will most likely be the new eras Whitebeard. Roger and Newgate were friends, but rivals as well. Their relationship is going to probably be mirrored by Luffy and Law. We've already seen that thus far.

I get shivers thinking about Law being on par with Whitebeard. How!?!? I mean you might be on to something here, but I just don't know if my mind can process it right now.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

when luffy entered gear 4 the fight was completely one sided. it was simply overkill. luffy broke free of doffy's famous parasite like it was absolutely nothing. 

You read it correctly? Doffy with internal injuries patched by himself, after fight with Law fought Luffy in 4th gear how much? 20 minutes, and you talking about overkill, in 1x1 fight Luffy would die before going to that 4th gear, he literally was dead when his time was up, but then plot armor in Guts and KO came and saved him. About breaking parasite - it seems that Luffy even after he went to his "normal" form still was in 4th gear, because it didn't required him to blow his muscles again, so he was lucky to have ability to expand his body to such measure, if he wasn't in that form - that would be the end.

I'm a fan of Luffy but this arc showed that he is no where around taking shot at any of the Emperors by himself in a 1x1 fight (at least if any of Younko is even = Doffy, but I doubt it, any of them is stronger I hope).

 

I get shivers thinking about Law being on par with Whitebeard. How!?!? I mean you might be on to something here, but I just don't know if my mind can process it right now.

Eh, not, not ot par with WB, he will play role of WB in life of Luffy, as WB was in Rogers life. 

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 10 July 2015 - 12:15 AM.

[AHK]

I get shivers thinking about Law being on par with Whitebeard. How!?!? I mean you might be on to something here, but I just don't know if my mind can process it right now.

I was speaking more so towards the relationship aspect, but it isn't hard to believe that EOS Law will be as strong as if not stronger than WB. Especially if you consider that Luffy without a doubt is gonna be stronger than Roger.

I mean, at this point, Law is close to being an island buster. He already cut PH almost in half.

[luffyq1]

I get shivers thinking about Law being on par with Whitebeard. How!?!? I mean you might be on to something here, but I just don't know if my mind can process it right now.

we don't even know how close they really were, or if they even had an alliance like luffy and law. i don't see this generation being played out like the previous. law may not even be as strong as prime wb. the things that wb was doing in the war at his age is just a feat that i don't think will be replicated, nor do i want it to. wb's tanking ability is something special lol.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

I mean, at this point, Law is close to being an island buster. He already cut PH almost in half.

Not really, only mountain on it, PH is much bigger, and on Dressrosa he pretty much showed that his room is about as big as city.

[FoolishYoungling]

You read it correctly? Doffy with internal injuries patched by himself, after fight with Law fought Luffy in 4th gear how much? 20 minutes, and you talking about overkill, in 1x1 fight Luffy would die before going to that 4th gear, he literally was dead when his time was up, but then plot armor in Guts and KO came and saved him. About breaking parasite - it seems that Luffy even after he went to his "normal" form still was in 4th gear, because it didn't required him to blow his muscles again, so he was lucky to have ability to expand his body to such measure, if he wasn't in that form - that would be the end.

I'm a fan of Luffy but this arc showed that he is no where around taking shot at any of the Emperors by himself in a 1x1 fight (at least if any of Younko is even = Doffy, but I doubt it, any of them is stronger I hope).

 

He can't stay in 4th gear. It requires haki which he needed some time to regain (wasn't it 8 minutes?). Luffy was beaten up by Bellamy, and Doflamingo uses his threads to recover injuries in his body. What Law did to Doflamingo was almost entirely useless. What Bellamy did to Luffy wasn't too bad because Luffy is made of rubber, but I still believe Luffy got the worst of it. You try getting punched by a man going 1000 mph a couple of times. The damage Law did to Doflamingo was all inner body things that didn't really effect him due to his ability.

 

In my opinion, the Luffy vs Dolfamingo evaluation of 1v1 fighting skill didn't start until Luffy's 4th gear vs Doflamingo's awakened powers.

we don't even know how close they really were, or if they even had an alliance like luffy and law. i don't see this generation being played out like the previous. law may not even be as strong as prime wb. the things that wb was doing in the war at his age is just a feat that i don't think will be replicated, nor do i want it to. wb's tanking ability is something special lol.

 

Brooks>Whitebeard then? hahahaha

[luffyq1]

what bellamy did to luffy is simply good ol' PIS. 

[FoolishYoungling]

what bellamy did to luffy is simply good ol' PIS. 

I thought there was actually a decent chance compared to everyone else that Bellamy would be the next Straw Hat before that fight. I just don't see it now because he isn't strong enough, and he still follows what the pirates shun, while still calling himself one.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

He can't stay in 4th gear. It requires haki which he needed some time to regain (wasn't it 8 minutes?). Luffy was beaten up by Bellamy, and Doflamingo uses his threads to recover injuries in his body. What Law did to Doflamingo was almost entirely useless. What Bellamy did to Luffy wasn't too bad because Luffy is made of rubber, but I still believe Luffy got the worst of it. You try getting punched by a man going 1000 mph a couple of times. The damage Law did to Doflamingo was all inner body things that didn't really effect him due to his ability.

 

In my opinion, the Luffy vs Dolfamingo evaluation of 1v1 fighting skill didn't start until Luffy's 4th gear vs Doflamingo's awakened powers.

 

Brooks>Whitebeard then? hahahaha

Law got Doffy with his radiactive knife, and some part of Doffy's stregth went to patch things up, half of damage or more like 40% of it that was done in this arc to Doffy - was due to Law's room and constant swaping Luffy and objects. Luffy neede 8 minutes, but I was talking about fight with gear 4th "on", it was skipped on 20 minutes forward, so there totally was no "overkill", in those 8 minutes, Luffy was dead by any non-plot situation, that's what I'm talking about.

Law's part I think got effect on DD, because he checked his body in middle of fight.

[FoolishYoungling]

Law got Doffy with his radiactive knife, and some part of Doffy's stregth went to patch things up, half of damage or more like 40% of it that was done in this arc to Doffy - was due to Law's room and constant swaping Luffy and objects. Luffy neede 8 minutes, but I was talking about fight with gear 4th "on", it was skipped on 20 minutes forward, so there totally was no "overkill", in those 8 minutes, Luffy was dead by any non-plot situation, that's what I'm talking about.

Law's part I think got effect on DD, because he checked his body in middle of fight.

He checked it when? After Luffy almost killed him 4 times in a row? The 20 minute thing was bullcrap. He could of bolted through his threads and hit him at any time as we saw when they came back from 20 minutes, but instead, Luffy decided to wait until he had a minute left to do it. As we saw Luffy was too much in his 4th gear. He was much stronger and faster in that form, and he hit right through Doflamingo's ultimate attack in the end.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

He checked it when? After Luffy almost killed him 4 times in a row? The 20 minute thing was bullcrap. He could of bolted through his threads and hit him at any time as we saw when they came back from 20 minutes, but instead, Luffy decided to wait until he had a minute left to do it. As we saw Luffy was too much in his 4th gear. He was much stronger and faster in that form, and he hit right through Doflamingo's ultimate attack in the end.

So 20 minutes they was standing still? Okay, lol. Doffy showed great stamina, and took head on most of attacks. He checked his stomach in 786.

Facts are facts, Luffy coudn't kill him in 20 minutes, and was saved tons of times by Law and last time by gladiators. Oda may draw new moves for Luffy in gear 4 that even stronger that his ultimate against Doffy, he surely will do so, but here, Luffy didn't took victory as 1x1 fight, he wasn't even near winning it on his own.

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 10 July 2015 - 12:57 AM.

[FoolishYoungling]

So 20 minutes they was standing still? Okay, lol. Doffy showed great stamina, and took head on most of attacks. He checked his stomach in 786.

Facts are facts, Luffy coudn't kill him in 20 minutes, and was saved tons of times by Law and last time by gladiators. Oda may draw new moves for Luffy in gear 4 that even stronger that his ultimate against Doffy, he surely will do so, but here, Luffy didn't took victory as 1x1 fight, he wasn't even near winning it on his own.

He didn't beat him in those 20 minutes because Oda wanted money for making 4 more pointless chapters about pushing a gate/cage.

How else do you explain Luffy going like "I've had enough of this" and literately just punching through a thread? How that take 20 minutes to do?

[NarutoUzumaki01]

He didn't beat him in those 20 minutes because Oda wanted money for making 4 more pointless chapters about pushing a gate/cage.

K, Doffy didn't one shot Luffy because Luffy is MC, that's an intresting logic xD

[AHK]

So 20 minutes they was standing still? Okay, lol. Doffy showed great stamina, and took head on most of attacks. He checked his stomach in 786.

Facts are facts, Luffy coudn't kill him in 20 minutes, and was saved tons of times by Law and last time by gladiators. Oda may draw new moves for Luffy in gear 4 that even stronger that his ultimate against Doffy, he surely will do so, but here, Luffy didn't took victory as 1x1 fight, he wasn't even near winning it on his own.

LOL seriously? Dude, maybe you forgot that once Luffy went gear 4, Doflamingo didn't even touch him a single time. Not once did Doflaming land an attack of significance. Cool story, Doflamingo lasted long, what did it give him? Doflamingo got embarassed and put halfway through the island. It doesn't matter that Doflamingo wasn;t healthy, neither was Luffy. Healthy or no, the existence of gear 4 showed that Doflamingo is significantly weaker than Luffy when they're at their strongest. Not even Doflamingo's trump card, the awakening, could do anything against Luffy. 

 

Luffy > Doflamingo. There really isn't any debating that fact. 

[NarutoUzumaki01]

LOL seriously? Dude, maybe you forgot that once Luffy went gear 4, Doflamingo didn't even touch him a single time. Not once did Doflaming land an attack of significance. Cool story, Doflamingo lasted long, what did it give him? Doflamingo got embarassed and put halfway through the island. It doesn't matter that Doflamingo wasn;t healthy, neither was Luffy. Healthy or no, the existence of gear 4 showed that Doflamingo is significantly weaker than Luffy when they're at their strongest. Not even Doflamingo's trump card, the awakening, could do anything against Luffy. 

 

Luffy > Doflamingo. There really isn't any debating that fact. 

Wow, all the asspulls for Luffy like gladiators that saving him for "cooldown" of 8 minutes and you ask "what it gave Doflamingo", if for no plot, Doffy could've just wipe out all those gladiators in seconds and fly in the sky to look for Luffy, DD maybe didn't have stronger punch we didn't saw his ultimate move's effect but he surely had more endurance that gave his upper hand, but that's Luffy MC, and we all knew how it would end, so 

As for bolded, don't switch up meaning, before G4, Luffy coudn't even get a good damage on DD, with G4 he got upper hand in streght and speed, but in the end he went down before he coud've finish DD, so don't throw such BS as bolded one.

I will say again, Luffy is no where around for beating Doffy in a 1x1 fight, and surely not close for Younko 1x1 fight.  

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 10 July 2015 - 01:20 AM.

[rocci]

I doubt that shank will kill kid.
He most likely just make him his prisoner or maid.

Luffy win the fight against don flamingo 1 vs 1.

[FoolishYoungling]

Wow, all the asspulls for Luffy like gladiators that saving him for "cooldown" of 8 minutes and you ask "what it gave Doflamingo", if for no plot, Doffy could've just wipe out all those gladiators in seconds and fly in the sky to look for Luffy, DD maybe didn't have stronger punch we didn't saw his ultimate move's effect but he surely had more endurance that gave his upper hand, but that's Luffy MC, and we all knew how it would end, so 

I will say again, Luffy is no where around for beating Doffy in a 1x1 fight, and surely not close for Younko 1x1 fight.  

The 8 minutes wouldn't exist without the 20 minutes of unreasonable waiting Luffy did to attack. How do you explain Luffy punching through Doflamgino's ultimate technique easily? It's because he was too much for him. Because when there was nothing left in the war to talk about, Oda had to finally be realistic about the fight and draw Luffy attacking him without messing around.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

I doubt that shank will kill kid.
He most likely just make him his prisoner or maid.

Luffy win the fight against don flamingo 1 vs 1.

Shanks is pretty much untochable before he meet Luffy once again, lol, (well, if it's not Blackbeard who will come for his head).

[rocci]

Shanks is pretty much untochable before he meet Luffy once again, lol, (well, if it's not Blackbeard who will come for his head).

I agree with that.