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#2081 ninja_salamander

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 05:40 PM

QUOTE (Rocket @ Jul 6 2012, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Topic change no jutsu successful. Because I'm getting annoyed at the current topic.

This has probably been asked a million times, but when do you guys think the next NS moment will take place? We all keep predicting "maybe X chapters" but nothing seems to be happening. Also, what do you think will happen?

Slightly off-topic, can someone give me a quick recap of what's been happening in the manga? I haven't read since 582 and right now I'm too lazy to go read them now. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif


According to me if kishimoto indeed is planning to make NS canon we should be getting a good NS moment not very late, if possible when/if sakura reaches the battle of Naruto vs tobi but if he is not thinking of making NS canon I don't think we will be getting any more NS moments other than the thank yous and other things sakura keep on saying to Naruto. I just hope the former said thing comes out to be true.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

Naruto is ending. Is this website going to die?

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#2083 ninja_salamander

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

No not imeediately after Naruto ends because I am sure their will be lots of celebrating over here if NS happens and lots of sorrow sharing if it doesn't but such site have to die someday or other after all after 100 years I don't expect anyone to know who Naruto was. Unfortunately I highly like Naruto but I think it just wasn't able to become a legend like dbz or death note in all people's view but to me it is.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 5 2012, 08:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That might be the point of making Hinata and Sasuke like that in Road to Ninja. How they are in the genjutsu world represents how some fans wanted them to become. Many fans believe that if Hinata was more open she'd get Naruto and if Sasuke was more charming Sakura would melt in his arms.

It could be that Kishimoto is out to confirm that even with those changes Hinata and Sasuke wouldn't be able to convince Naruto and Sakura to be with them.

Bingo! These are based on a couple of common nh and ss fans fantasies of Hinata and Sasuke. This is Kishimoto's chance to show them that it wouldn't matter if Hinata and Sasuke were like that, Naruto and Sakura aren't going to fall for it. Naruto and Sakura are in love with each other.

Kishimoto made it clear from the start that Sakura's one sided crush on Sasuke was a reflection of her young, naive, misguided images of love. She's outgrown that, now all her remnants of those feelings do is cause her anguish and shame, that's what 540 was about. She is in love for real with Naruto and she knows it and wants them to be together, but she also carries pain and shame about still feeling any bond to Sasuke. The movie will show the readers that misunderstood what Kishimoto has been doing with Sakura's character since part 1. (oh, and folks please go back and reread part1, Kishimoto subtly undermines the whole Sakura really loves Sasuke from the start, and shows her true romantic bond was to Naruto, even has Sakura somewhat recognize she feels something that feels like romantic feelings for Naruto- with no negative reaction [unlike all those fanfics that get it completely wrong] just a bit of a confused reaction.And that already happens by chapter 13, 10 chapters into Team 7's interactions and things are already set in motion for the whole manga.)

Edited by ciardha, 06 July 2012 - 08:07 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

Going off topic for a moment, I know there was scene in the anime (I think it was in the recent flashback episodes) that showed Naruto looking all sad cause Sakura was hugging Sasuke. Did that only happen in the anime, or did it also happen in manga too. And if it happen in manga too, what chapter and page.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

This is the only one I can remember...



chapter 172 page 17

Edited by Verilance, 06 July 2012 - 08:25 PM.



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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

Chapter 172. Page 17, to be exact. ^^

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Well, it kinda proves that Naruto just wants Sakura to be happy. And that Sasuke is not grateful enough for Sakura's concern. (or does not show it?)

Edited by sushi., 06 July 2012 - 08:28 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jul 6 2012, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chapter 172. Page 17, to be exact. ^^

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Well, it kinda proves that Naruto just wants Sakura to be happy. And that Sasuke is not grateful enough for Sakura's concern. (or does not show it?)


sorry I forgot the major detail when I originally uploaded biggrin.gif


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Jul 6 2012, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

WTF????

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:48 PM

Still, I think Sakura cannot live without Naruto being part of her life. And I don't think she will close Sasuke because she knows that will break his heart. The Heaven and Earth bridge, Sakura had shown her selfless side that she wanted to bring Sasuke back to Naruto, when she approached Kyuubified Naruto. And Yamato told her she has feelings for Naruto.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Jul 6 2012, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the only one I can remember...



chapter 172 page 17


Thanks, I read that part.................poor Naruto. sad.gif

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 6 2012, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto is ending. Is this website going to die?


I'm trying to convince Smiter it won't be worth ponying up the cash, but.....

Immediately, no. I think it will wither away over time, unless it finds a new subject matter.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:09 PM

What about the non Naruto related threads? People discuss a lot of stuff in here apart from this series.

Besides, Kishimoto probaly won't retire so soon. Maybe we can dedicate this site for any other series he comes up with?

Edited by alexander, 06 July 2012 - 09:10 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Jul 6 2012, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the only one I can remember...



that's why he act like that when she confessed that she love naruto he remembers this part and said that she loves him too much.
but a lot of thing happened after this scene, naruto thought that the things has still the same showing imaturity from his side, but it's a shounen we could not expect a kiss in that scene, he will make NS canon in the end i think.

Edited by dovahkiin, 06 July 2012 - 09:10 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 09:55 PM

I hope Kishimoto makes another series in the Naruto universe.

Perhaps this one will somehow involve a random pissed off ninja that Naruto beat once.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:34 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Jul 6 2012, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the only one I can remember...



chapter 172 page 17

The recent part 1 recap episode that showed that scene actually made Naruto look about 10 times sadder in that moment. I really breaks your heart.

It's because of moments like this that I wonder why some people don't want to cheer for Naruto getting the girl of his dreams. His only wish is for Sakura to be happy, even if that means she ends up with another guy.

That's the key difference between NS and NH/SS, the latter is all about what the girls want out of the relationship while Naruto's focus is not in want he wants but in what he considers would make Sakura the happiest.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:44 PM

couldn't agree with you more...

none of the pairings excepts NS actually consider Naruto's feelings and desires...

an important factor IMO


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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:48 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 6 2012, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The recent part 1 recap episode that showed that scene actually made Naruto look about 10 times sadder in that moment. I really breaks your heart.

It's because of moments like this that I wonder why some people don't want to cheer for Naruto getting the girl of his dreams. His only wish is for Sakura to be happy, even if that means she ends up with another guy.

That's the key difference between NS and NH/SS, the latter is all about what the girls want out of the relationship while Naruto's focus is not in want he wants but in what he considers would make Sakura the happiest.


naruto did a half-smile face to hide what he is feeling, ofc he would not cry there in front of sakura and sasuke but deep inside he was suffering.

Edited by dovahkiin, 06 July 2012 - 10:49 PM.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Jul 6 2012, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm trying to convince Smiter it won't be worth ponying up the cash, but.....

Immediately, no. I think it will wither away over time, unless it finds a new subject matter.

It could be used as fanfictions, and possibly even another manga if another form of "Heaven and Earth" comes again. Just my opinion of cours.

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 11:36 PM

When I start watching Naruto, I just know main characters goes with each other in the end. Usually, I always find it nice and sweet, but you know, it's given. Naruto, however, is something I really wish to see them together. The buildup between them is really well done and realistic for most parts. Naruto is not just a guy who's befriended with a girl and then they automatically become a couple. No, this is a definition of hard work. Naruto falls in love with a girl who didn't like him due to his bad record (prankster). They developed strong, trusty friendship throughout part 1. When part 2 starts, Naruto's mind of a woman may not change (oblivious), but his maturity is there (protect her and keep her happy). His feelings haven't change at all, rather it only develop further. Examples like understanding how Sasuke feel, or the need to protect the future "kings" (reference to Asuma). In part 2, it was appropriate time for Kishi to develop romance, because their friendship was already developed. The next level is romance and it happens to be Naruto and Sakura with all the hints thrown at us throughout part 2.

You see, it makes the most sense for Naruto and Sakura to love each other, because it's part of the theme: hard work. Naruto came a long way to earn her love, yet he doesn't realize that Sakura is already in love. Sad part is that Sakura is in confused state of her own feelings, so they both don't know where their relationship is going. I am happy to hear that Naruto is, in fact, still in love with her (of course it's obvious). The best part is that even though he is sacrificing his happiness for her, he will confess his love to her when the time is right. The time is obviously when the war is over and Sasuke is redeemed. He is a guy that anyone would love to hang out or to be together with. Sakura, as of now, is still confused and now, she's in the process of understanding her true feelings. The whole buildup for Naruto and Sakura has been going so well, that if Kishi DARES to pair them with someone else, then this manga is a huge disappointment. Say what you want, but NaruSaku development is important to Naruto (character) and its theme.

Ask yourself this: Do you think any other pairing will have the same impact as NaruSaku becoming canon?




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