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#20881 Namikaze Clan

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 05:44 PM

Kishi just probably forgot about the Hyuga crisis when he focused on his fetsih for the Uchihas

It doesn't matter anymore. I imagine that Naruto or Hinata abolished the bird seal ritual at some point

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 06:25 PM

The hyuga crisis is solved as soon as hiashi ask forgiveness from neji in chunin exam arc.

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 06:30 PM

The hyuga crisis is solved as soon as hiashi ask forgiveness from neji in chunin exam arc.

Funny because when considering SD, they made it sound like that problem is still ongoing since Naruto must become Hokage to fix it.

Oh well.

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 06:40 PM

So boob hime-sama left the running of her clan to become a housewife. I wonder if she realized she could do both, she could teach them alot. She's the only real ninja in the story  :hm:  :hm:

 

 

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#20885 Atheck

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:04 PM

Funny because when considering SD, they made it sound like that problem is still ongoing since Naruto must become Hokage to fix it.

Oh well.

 

How can that be considered true reform from the inside of the family when you're needing an outside political entity to impose these changes to the system? It doesn't change the hearts and minds of the clan members or make them want to enact new policies for the benefit of their own people. For that matter - isn't it undermining the authority of the clan leaders when you have outsiders meddling in their affairs? I'm guessing Kishi didn't think this through when he first made Naruto give that promise to Neji.   



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:15 PM

So Hinata is a housewife. Bet Naruhina fans don't care as long as she get's Naruto's D.

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:22 PM

How can that be considered true reform from the inside of the family when you're needing an outside political entity to impose these changes to the system? It doesn't change the hearts and minds of the clan members or make them want to enact new policies for the benefit of their own people. For that matter - isn't it undermining the authority of the clan leaders when you have outsiders meddling in their affairs? I'm guessing Kishi didn't think this through when he first made Naruto give that promise to Neji.


Well, naruto is part of the Hyuga family now so technically it was a reform inside the family

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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:24 PM

Well, naruto is part of the Hyuga family now so technically it was a reform inside the family

You almost made it sound like NH theory. Lol. Kishi probably have Gai SD face of "Huh?" when people thinks he has a master plan.

Edited by TouKen4Life3g, 16 June 2015 - 07:24 PM.


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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:25 PM

Well, naruto is part of the Hyuga family now so technically it was a reform inside the family

 

it's not much of a reform if people are still walking around with that cursed seal on. They probably accepted Naruto because of his role in saving the world lmao. I always saw the Hyuga as "that sister who flaunts her stuff more than anyone because she's forgotten" 

 

Hiashi: The Hyuga are the strongest in the leaf......by default!


Edited by Apollo, 16 June 2015 - 07:27 PM.


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Posted 16 June 2015 - 07:47 PM

Well, naruto is part of the Hyuga family now so technically it was a reform inside the family

 

He's an outsider who married the outcast failure of their family. They don't even live in the Hyuga compound and judging by Hinata's appearance in some of the promotional pics, she's taken to a more contemporary style of living instead of embracing the traditionalist Hyuga method of house, attire, and upbringing for her children.

 

It wasn't so much that Naruto became an honorary Hyuga as it was Hinata severing any remaining ties she had to her own clan and living some generic civilian lifestyle. She doesn't even appear to be involved with Naruto's career or social life. So it wouldn't surprise me if all she did was spend her days playing the doting wife at home who cooks and cleans for her prized ape when he meanders on home from a day of alcoholism and playing with his computer.   



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 08:23 PM

 

He's an outsider who married the outcast failure of their family. They don't even live in the Hyuga compound and judging by Hinata's appearance in some of the promotional pics, she's taken to a more contemporary style of living instead of embracing the traditionalist Hyuga method of house, attire, and upbringing for her children.

 

It wasn't so much that Naruto became an honorary Hyuga as it was Hinata severing any remaining ties she had to her own clan and living some generic civilian lifestyle. She doesn't even appear to be involved with Naruto's career or social life. So it wouldn't surprise me if all she did was spend her days playing the doting wife at home who cooks and cleans for her prized ape when he meanders on home from a day of alcoholism and playing with his computer.   

The other completely overlooked detail in that regard is that, with the Hyuga clan presumably unchanged, Hinata leaving the clan should have had her branded with the Caged Bird Seal in order to keep the Byakugan protected in case anything ever happened.

But of course, that would completely demean the great Hyuga "princess" and her "perfect" looks to have to walk around with her forehead covered for the rest of her life.


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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:00 PM

The other completely overlooked detail in that regard is that, with the Hyuga clan presumably unchanged, Hinata leaving the clan should have had her branded with the Caged Bird Seal in order to keep the Byakugan protected in case anything ever happened.

But of course, that would completely demean the great Hyuga "princess" and her "perfect" looks to have to walk around with her forehead covered for the rest of her life.

 

And it just shows her "fans" are heavily extremists who are moe chasers after her for three things; her looks, her flowing locks, and boobs. X-P



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Posted 16 June 2015 - 10:40 PM

 

He's an outsider who married the outcast failure of their family. They don't even live in the Hyuga compound and judging by Hinata's appearance in some of the promotional pics, she's taken to a more contemporary style of living instead of embracing the traditionalist Hyuga method of house, attire, and upbringing for her children.

 

It wasn't so much that Naruto became an honorary Hyuga as it was Hinata severing any remaining ties she had to her own clan and living some generic civilian lifestyle. She doesn't even appear to be involved with Naruto's career or social life. So it wouldn't surprise me if all she did was spend her days playing the doting wife at home who cooks and cleans for her prized ape when he meanders on home from a day of alcoholism and playing with his computer.   

Do you think hinata can control and take care of naruto? Its impossible, she cant, she doesn't have what it takes to do it. Just imagine when hinata cook and bring a bento to naruto in his hokage office and when she arrive she looks naruto already eat cup of ramen and beer, what will she do?

Hinata : Naruto Coon? [While look sad]

Naruto : Hinata do you need something ?

Hinata : No just passing by and i thought i should visit you [While hiding the bento behind her]. You look busy good look i will wait at home. [Running while crying]

 

If it was sakura

Sakura : Naruto i bring you a bento [and she stop and look a cup of ramen and a beer in naruto desk]

Naruto : Sakura-chan arigat......

Sakura : HOW DARE YOU EAT SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN MY BENTO AND YOU DRINK A BEER!!!!???

Naruto : Sa...sa..sakura-chan [looks extremely terified]but ... but im, already...

Sakura : You will eat my bento right................. RIIIIIIGHTTTTT?????

Naruto :HAIIIII!!! (Sakura-chan KOAIIIIII)

Sakura : IF i see you eat ramen or drinking beer anymore you know what will happen right?

Naruto : [Drench in sweat and fear , while shikamaru looks from beside and laugh]

 

Hinata just doesn't match with naruto, alot of NH fans think she is because she is passive and naruto active like minato is passive and kushina is active. I don't know about you guys but if i imagine their daily activities thats what will happen , hinata is a type of girl that will NEVER dissobey naruto orders even if she knew what naruto doing is bad that is her nature.


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#20894 Atheck

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:16 AM

Do you think hinata can control and take care of naruto? Its impossible, she cant, she doesn't have what it takes to do it. Just imagine when hinata cook and bring a bento to naruto in his hokage office and when she arrive she looks naruto already eat cup of ramen and beer, what will she do?

Hinata : Naruto Coon? [While look sad]

Naruto : Hinata do you need something ?

Hinata : No just passing by and i thought i should visit you [While hiding the bento behind her]. You look busy good look i will wait at home. [Running while crying]

 

If it was sakura

Sakura : Naruto i bring you a bento [and she stop and look a cup of ramen and a beer in naruto desk]

Naruto : Sakura-chan arigat......

Sakura : HOW DARE YOU EAT SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN MY BENTO AND YOU DRINK A BEER!!!!???

Naruto : Sa...sa..sakura-chan [looks extremely terified]but ... but im, already...

Sakura : You will eat my bento right................. RIIIIIIGHTTTTT?????

Naruto :HAIIIII!!! (Sakura-chan KOAIIIIII)

Sakura : IF i see you eat ramen or drinking beer anymore you know what will happen right?

Naruto : [Drench in sweat and fear , while shikamaru looks from beside and laugh]

 

Hinata just doesn't match with naruto, alot of NH fans think she is because she is passive and naruto active like minato is passive and kushina is active. I don't know about you guys but if i imagine their daily activities thats what will happen , hinata is a type of girl that will NEVER dissobey naruto orders even if she knew what naruto doing is bad that is her nature.

 

The only incarnation of Hinata that might be capable of fulfilling the particular role you're aiming for is RTN Hinata. But she's also possessive, self-centred, and maniacal to such a degree that she threatens any girl who happens to be friends with her object using violence and intimidation tactics. The only semi-positive trait in her bones is her willingness to assert herself against Naruto instead of moping like some docile puppy. Moreover, we don't know if she would try and instill the same stringent regimen of healthy eating and acceptable social conduct that Sakura would no doubt give him for his benefit. She may not give a damn what Naruto eats as long as he doesn't look in the general direction of any other girl.    


Edited by Atheck, 17 June 2015 - 12:17 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:32 AM

The only incarnation of Hinata that might be capable of fulfilling the particular role you're aiming for is RTN Hinata. But she's also possessive, self-centred, and maniacal to such a degree that she threatens any girl who happens to be friends with her object using violence and intimidation tactics. The only semi-positive trait in her bones is her willingness to assert herself against Naruto instead of moping like some docile puppy. Moreover, we don't know if she would try and instill the same stringent regimen of healthy eating and acceptable social conduct that Sakura would no doubt give him for his benefit. She may not give a damn what Naruto eats as long as he doesn't look in the general direction of any other girl.    

 

No kidding, huh? Especially considering that RTN Hinata was threatening Sakura.



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 12:55 AM

 

No kidding, huh? Especially considering that RTN Hinata was threatening Sakura.

 

You know something? I would have been perfectly content with Sakura piledriving Hinata into the ground in that scene just to get her off that selfish high horse and put her in her place. 

 

The other completely overlooked detail in that regard is that, with the Hyuga clan presumably unchanged, Hinata leaving the clan should have had her branded with the Caged Bird Seal in order to keep the Byakugan protected in case anything ever happened.

But of course, that would completely demean the great Hyuga "princess" and her "perfect" looks to have to walk around with her forehead covered for the rest of her life.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Naruto's authority and power scared them into not speaking out against one of their main clan members leaving the compound permanently. What are they going to do? Naruto is a renowned figurehead of Konoha with the power of Rikudou and his engagement isn't exactly a private affair, considering how the reigning Hokage wasted public resources on purchasing wedding gifts for them. No one is going to sympathise with Hiashi and his ilk in keeping Hinata from getting her prize on the basis of her choosing not to be branded with a slavish marking that damages her brain cells if she acts up. Naruto is liable to get Kakashi to use his authority as Hokage to force them to remove the marking, if he doesn't break down the doors himself in a fit of rage, that is.  


Edited by Atheck, 17 June 2015 - 12:57 AM.


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:03 AM

The hyuga crisis is solved as soon as hiashi ask forgiveness from neji in chunin exam arc.

 

Not really, it's not that simple...well at least it shouldn't be 

 

And Neji never really lost the seal 


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:23 AM

 
Not really, it's not that simple...well at least it shouldn't be 
 
And Neji never really lost the seal 

It never get mentioned again, so by kishi standard it's resolved.
And it practically conclude neji conflict before his fight with kidoumaru thus making him irrelevant for majority of part 2.
And what make hyuga revelant in this story is because of neji.

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:39 AM

I really want to know what happen to hyuga clan. For generation their clan was split into head clan and branch clan, when naruto said he change the hyuga for neji at that chunnin exam battle, i thought hes gonna erase the cursed seal on the branch clan and unite them into one clan. Now that neji is dead who is head leader of the hyuga clan? Do you guys think hinata or hanabi? and do you think the problem i mention above already solved by naruto?


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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:47 AM

The problem is that unless it is stated that the curse seal are gone we must assume that it has remain unchanged. If it was NS or any other pairing happened we could ignore it, and assume that Naruto changed it. BUT since he is married to hinata. Also neji died to make that pairing happen and one of the big plot point that involved both neji and hinata was the clan's curse seal and Naruto promise to remove it. We MUST see something that hints that Naruto removed it or we must assume it hasn't been removed.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 17 June 2015 - 04:13 AM.






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