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#20541 咲耶姫

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:12 PM

This isn't like you at all...

That doesn't even make sense either. You're telling me that there's more than 615? Because last time I checked, that was it. That's your final hurdle. That was the last time that they ever do a progress. Now, it's over. Naruto cares in a group way, not as a individual. How the hell we got to ignore Sakura doing or even thinking of Naruto but Hinata, it's allowed? That's bullsh**. Screw her. Her dream is as valuable as Lee, ok. Why we have to put her on a damn pedastal. You know what, I cannot kittening wait for this battle to go further because the nukes are here and pretty much no Hinata around to tell Minato or even Obito to say, "Hey, I'm relevant! Please count me in!"

No I didn't say that at all, I'm just saying that we didn't get NS moments since long time and that except 631 and 663, there was no NS moments. I'm not comparing with NH. I'm saying that I want a NS moment that's all. 

I know that I may sound negative, but I still have my faith in NS, it hadn't fell down at all. I'm just tired of NH fanservice, that's all. 


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:15 PM

Hey guys


anyone Japanese here..... i want a help from them


actually one thing i m worried about is chapter 615


where in 2nd last page or last page there is written " i wont let GO OFF ur hand"
the literal meaning of GO OFF is stop liking but what is there in japanese version & it was adressed to whom

somebody pls help me in this

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:23 PM

It's almost over. Just bare with this moment. Bare it! You can do it!

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:37 PM

633, 678 (which will obviously have a filler episode about it), plus 573 in the french dubbed and the Naruto SD serie which have a lot NH fenservice in the season 2. I know I should just not watch it, but I want to see how it is dubbed. 

 

Its not that bad, 615 was the last real NH moment, remember even if anime filler was counted, 235 would already give us the win because its after the land of iron and naruto announcing he still loves sakura would mean even NH loses in the anime. 633 was a filler chapter, but I doubt SP would go full retard for another episode like 166 on something so small with her doing the 64 palms on one jubbi clone. 678 really was well just a dream remember, theres a very big difference in stating something new to just restating the old stuff we have known for years and yes hinatas dream of she loves naruto is a no duh, we get it, kishi cannot show anything real new nor dynamic with her, but as long as there is emphasis on NS with stuff like 631, 662, and 663 with a parallelism hint, concern for her friend, and outright showing she supports his dream while kishi deliberately showing situations where sakura is upset at sasuke or being treated badly, leaving us to question how she feels about him, well I doubt NH has a good chance.

 

I mean she was sealed away immediately after the recovery event, still showing what we already knew for so long, its like she keeps missing development, not much else to say about NH.

 

Even then with everyone trapped, if team 7 ends up fighting everyone converted into zetsus, you can bet that there is some power naruto and sasuke have to revert everyone back to normal. Yes kishi will do that because you cannot expect him to kill the whole cast. Even if you see certain zetsus who were his friends, its just something to make naruto and friends scared at the twisted stuff kagyua and madara caused.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:51 PM

 

Its not that bad, 615 was the last real NH moment, remember even if anime filler was counted, 235 would already give us the win because its after the land of iron and naruto announcing he still loves sakura would mean even NH loses in the anime. 633 was a filler chapter, but I doubt SP would go full retard for another episode like 166 on something so small with her doing the 64 palms on one jubbi clone. 678 really was well just a dream remember, theres a very big difference in stating something new to just restating the old stuff we have known for years and yes hinatas dream of she loves naruto is a no duh, we get it, kishi cannot show anything real new nor dynamic with her, but as long as there is emphasis on NS with stuff like 631, 662, and 663 with a parallelism hint, concern for her friend, and outright showing she supports his dream while kishi deliberately showing situations where sakura is upset at sasuke or being treated badly, leaving us to question how she feels about him, well I doubt NH has a good chance.

 

I mean she was sealed away immediately after the recovery event, still showing what we already knew for so long, its like she keeps missing development, not much else to say about NH.

 

Even then with everyone trapped, if team 7 ends up fighting everyone converted into zetsus, you can bet that there is some power naruto and sasuke have to revert everyone back to normal. Yes kishi will do that because you cannot expect him to kill the whole cast. Even if you see certain zetsus who were his friends, its just something to make naruto and friends scared at the twisted stuff kagyua and madara caused.

You made a great post, but my problem is not about NH chances of happening. I know it's dead. I'm one of the first who claimed it was dead last week after the release of chapter 678 and I still think like that. My only problem, is that it's irritating me to no end to see NH fanservice in anime. It's just getting on my nerves, that's all. 

But seeing that I'm already irritated today, I'm sure I won't look at tomorrow episode unless it has good comments on this site.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:56 PM

So...how would you guys feel about Sakura being Hamura's daughter reincarnation? 



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 06:56 PM

So...how would you guys feel about Sakura being Hamura's daughter reincarnation?


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 07:07 PM

You made a great post, but my problem is not about NH chances of happening. I know it's dead. I'm one of the first who claimed it was dead last week after the release of chapter 678 and I still think like that. My only problem, is that it's irritating me to no end to see NH fanservice in anime. It's just getting on my nerves, that's all. 
But seeing that I'm already irritated today, I'm sure I won't look at tomorrow episode unless it has good comments on this site.

I understand, I got a bit carried away. I was a bit frustrated because of personal stuff that just occurred, but it's fine. So yeah, just bare with this one last time. And who knows. Pierrot is NS fan as well so we could be surprised in the future.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:23 PM

Is this person correct or wrong(probably copied and pasted from wiki):

 

Chan
Chan (ちゃん [tʃan]?) is a diminutive suffix; it expresses that the speaker finds a person endearing. In general, chan is used for babies, young children, grandparents and teenagers. It may also be used towards cute animals, lovers, close friends, any youthful woman, or between friends. Using chan with a superior's name is considered to be condescending and rude.

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Kun (君【くん】[kun]?) is used by persons of senior status in addressing or referring to those of junior status, or by anyone when addressing or referring to male children or male teenagers, or among male friends. It can also be used by females when addressing a male that they are emotionally attached to or have known for a long period of time

No one is stupid/ bold enough to constantly refer to someone of unrequited love in a way that signifies a romantic relation when there isn't one. So lets just leave it at saying that it is simply a friendly way that they refer to one another. Seeing how friends is in both of their definitions.

Also, Naruto has been calling Sakura, Sakura chan since the beginning of the series. Seeing how she reacted in when Naruto said that she was his girlfriend, I don't think that she would take it too kindly if he refererd to her in an affectionate manner in pt. 1.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:26 PM

Can someone please explain to me why you think NH is dead? because I still think it has a big chance of happening. I keep convincing myself by saying it's dead when it's actually not. I know NS is more developed an all but, still it wont stop Kishi from making NH canon. I'm VERY worried. Also, if NH happens SS will automatically happen as well.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:39 PM

Can someone please explain to me why you think NH is dead? because I still think it has a big chance of happening. I keep convincing myself by saying it's dead when it's actually not. I know NS is more developed an all but, still it wont stop Kishi from making NH canon. I'm VERY worried. Also, if NH happens SS will automatically happen as well.

Ok, in what area you like me to challenge? I'm up for it.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:42 PM

Is this person correct or wrong(probably copied and pasted from wiki):

 

Chan
Chan (ちゃん [tʃan]?) is a diminutive suffix; it expresses that the speaker finds a person endearing. In general, chan is used for babies, young children, grandparents and teenagers. It may also be used towards cute animals, lovers, close friends, any youthful woman, or between friends. Using chan with a superior's name is considered to be condescending and rude.

Kun
Kun (君【くん】[kun]?) is used by persons of senior status in addressing or referring to those of junior status, or by anyone when addressing or referring to male children or male teenagers, or among male friends. It can also be used by females when addressing a male that they are emotionally attached to or have known for a long period of time

No one is stupid/ bold enough to constantly refer to someone of unrequited love in a way that signifies a romantic relation when there isn't one. So lets just leave it at saying that it is simply a friendly way that they refer to one another. Seeing how friends is in both of their definitions.

Also, Naruto has been calling Sakura, Sakura chan since the beginning of the series. Seeing how she reacted in when Naruto said that she was his girlfriend, I don't think that she would take it too kindly if he refererd to her in an affectionate manner in pt. 1.

To my understanding "chan" doesn't have to be a romantic thing.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:45 PM

Tacticalfox@ please no thank you. I don't want Sakura been the reincarnation of Hamura simply because the NH fandom will be" Sakura is Naruto's cousin they can't be together so Naruto has to get together with Hinata NH wins!" you get the idea. It was bad with the oldest argument that Naruto and Sakura have a sibling relationship, been cousins will be the same.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:47 PM

Ok, in what area you like me to challenge? I'm up for it.

Chapter 615. I still can't get over it. 


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:49 PM

Chapter 615. I still can't get over it. 

Ok.

Um...still at work. Lol. Very soon, though I got a funny feeling Inferno is about to take over.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:52 PM

Can someone please explain to me why you think NH is dead? because I still think it has a big chance of happening. I keep convincing myself by saying it's dead when it's actually not. I know NS is more developed an all but, still it wont stop Kishi from making NH canon. I'm VERY worried. Also, if NH happens SS will automatically happen as well.

At this point I don't think it's very likely. Cuz if it were to become canon, a lot more development would have to happen. Naruto and Hinata don't interacted all that much, really. (Unless a heck of a lot happens in the parts of the story I haven't gotten to yet. I started with the anime, and have only read the manga from 619 onward. I am aware of 615 and all.)

 

But at the end of the day, it's fiction. I'd be disappointed with a NH ending, but oh welll...y'know. *shrug* (Now so far as pairing wars are concerned...yikes. I'd be inclined to avoid certain sites for a while. I hate the pairing wars. Pleasant discussion is one thing, but pairing wars I'd rather avoid.)


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 08:59 PM

Sakura@ don't want to sound arrogant or overconfident. But to me NH has been dead since chapter 3, Naruto introduced Sakura as the girl he likes and that's pretty much started the pairing development. I see it impossible for him to move on from Sakura and fall for Hinata. Otherwise Kishi would've made Naruto moved on from her early in the manga and he would have give NH the same slow development he has given to NS.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:10 PM

Can someone please explain to me why you think NH is dead? because I still think it has a big chance of happening. I keep convincing myself by saying it's dead when it's actually not. I know NS is more developed an all but, still it wont stop Kishi from making NH canon. I'm VERY worried. Also, if NH happens SS will automatically happen as well.

Honestly, I was never really worried about NH to begin with. I've never really considered it being alive or dead, it's just "there" for me, if that makes sense.

In terms of why I doubt it will happen, it's simple. Hinata has never, not one time, thought of Naruto's feelings when it comes tithe relationship, so her "love" (to me) can't even be qualified as love. She hasn't ever stopped to think about Naruto. Since her character is based primarily off of pairing, you would think that she would consider, maybe for a second, that Naruto might like somebody else. She hasn't ever done that. Her goals surrounding Naruto are indicative of that. Whenever she says something, it's all about her. "I will walk by your side, I will hold your hand, I will do this, I will do that...etc"

This is in direct juxtaposition to the relationship between Naruto and Sakura. When it comes to Naruto, he always puts Sakura above himself. His determination to save Sasuke stems from his desire to see Sakura happy (at least in part). He never gives her any reason to let her worry about him. If you remember his conversation with Sai, he said that he couldn't even tell her how he felt about her, due to not being able to fulfill his promise to her.

Sakura is much the same (part 2 Sakura anyway.) She never hesitated to put Naruto's feelings/health first. Examples? The time she kept the info about Orochimaru's spy secret because she was scared of the Akatsuki. The four tails incident. Her worry about the RS. The motivation behind the confession. Her thoughts at the bridge. Her thoughts during the war, when he was putting his life on the line to save everybody. Her thoughts during the CPR scene. When it comes to Naruto, she always puts him over everybody, including herself and Sasuke.

Furthermore, Naruto is the only person that she is herself around. Not only that, but she is always happy because of him. Not only that, but a majority of her development is due to her being around Naruto. This is favorable to NS, while being detrimental to SS at the same time. Naruto loves every aspect of Sakura, including her strength. There has been multiple accounts where he has admired her strength. Sasuke does not care at all, calling her useless, and making her feel like crap constantly. Around Sasuke, she is reserved, not confident, and her character regresses to what it was preshippuden.

More on SS: 3 murder attempts, possibly a fourth if we look at the Madara scene in 676 ( his words in 677 seem to point towards him possibly being content with cutting her in half, since he deemed her useless, and has set the precedent for how he treats people he deems useless), him preparing to leave her to die, as well as the mental abuse she suffers at his hands. Need I say more?

Hope this helps :)

Edit: Also, another thing about NH: why is it Hinata is always taken out of the plot when something is going on? After the pain arc, we didn't see her for another 200 chapters. After 615, she fell off the map. After Naruto died, she tripped, didn't see her again. Naruto is bout to throw down with Madara? Hey Hinata, I'm gonna put you in IT.

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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:18 PM

I forgot all about tomorrow episode being chapter 615 of the anime. :down:



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Posted 04 June 2014 - 09:19 PM

Can someone please explain to me why you think NH is dead? because I still think it has a big chance of happening. I keep convincing myself by saying it's dead when it's actually not. I know NS is more developed an all but, still it wont stop Kishi from making NH canon. I'm VERY worried. Also, if NH happens SS will automatically happen as well.

Understandable why you haven't fully given up the thought yet... I mean you were a NaruHina fan before  :happy:

 

Anyway, if you want some reassurance, I'll offer my bit too.

 

For starters, Hinata's never had any significant conversation with Naruto outside of battle... Sure those help with the situations at hand, but Naruto doesn't look back at them afterwards. In fact, the only time Naruto ever thinks about Hinata is when he's thinking about all his friends, then one time being where he had to save her (like usual) and reminded her about the time she "saved" him from Pain. I don't consider that much of a save though, she pretty much put Naruto in a much worst situation in the hands of Kurama when he still wasn't on good terms with Naruto. But again, Hinata offers little to Naruto because she tries to copy him in every way possible and never thinks of Naruto's own feelings.

 

If there's more that needs to be said, I'll totally offer more of my thoughts ^^


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