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#2021 Greed-Sama

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 06:39 AM

QUOTE (maliousdei @ Jan 22 2011, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys, question. what about what kishimoto said about sakura loving sasuke?

I know it's older news, but I'm just a bit worried.


It's older news. No need to be worried. I mean the manga speaks for itself. If Sasuke can attempt murder on Sakura so easily and she still loved him. I would be a little upset with Kishimoto's writing ability. Humans don't really love people that want to place a blade across their neck. Not mentally healthy ones anyway.
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Posted 23 January 2011 - 10:32 AM

I don't know why there should be any confusion over this. We talk of who loves who, but 'love' is a very vague, broad term.
Does Sakura love Naruto? Yes.
Does Sakura love Sasuke? Again, yes.
However, this whole debate isn't/shouldn't be about which boy Sakura 'loves', because it is/should be obvious to all that she loves them both. No, the real question here that should be the topic of this whole pairing debate is simple:
Which boy does Sakura love MORE?

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE (Quinny52 @ Jan 23 2011, 11:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know why there should be any confusion over this. We talk of who loves who, but 'love' is a very vague, broad term.
Does Sakura love Naruto? Yes.
Does Sakura love Sasuke? Again, yes.
However, this whole debate isn't/shouldn't be about which boy Sakura 'loves', because it is/should be obvious to all that she loves them both. No, the real question here that should be the topic of this whole pairing debate is simple:
Which boy does Sakura love MORE?


QFT, but I'm not sure that Sakura still loves Sasuke. dry.gif

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 01:47 PM

^^^ Agreed.. But i am thinking that now, since kakashi mentioned naruto in the manga chapter 524, im thinking that in 525, he will meet sakura and kakashi.... But also, sakura's feelings will be revealed when naruto vs sasuke happens.. And thats probably when Naruto's confession will be, But im prettydang sure now that naruto vs. Sasuke is going to where all this will be solved.. Because like, this is like a unsolved puzzle, sakura knows that naruto likes her because of sai telling her and naruto is still a bit vague on saura's confession... Now do know if that was really sakura's true feelings OVERALL( meaning, analyze her scene and you will find it), based on the proof so far, we cant say that it was a true statement but we can only assume that it was because of tiny hints in the chapter(s) and scene(s).. IMO, ithink it was true because i think she was still "hiding" her TRUE feelings because of the scenario going on in the chapter.... And sasuke had already said he could careless about sakura (ex. Trying to kill her!)

But i have a question, if i may ask... Do you guys think sakura is gonna get a confession from naruto anytime soon??

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Posted 23 January 2011 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (Quinny52 @ Jan 23 2011, 04:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't know why there should be any confusion over this. We talk of who loves who, but 'love' is a very vague, broad term.


Yeah. Love is a broad term, so defining it better.

Her love for Sasuke is compassionate love. Like someone gives to a friend or homeless person. It's understanding mixed with pathos.

Her love for Naruto is different no ands, ifs, or buts. Now if it's romantic still yet remains to be seen, but I highly believe it is. wub.gif
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Posted 24 January 2011 - 02:02 PM

QUOTE (theorangehokage @ Jan 23 2011, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But i have a question, if i may ask... Do you guys think sakura is gonna get a confession from naruto anytime soon??

I think Naruto will confess his true feelings to Sakura in the very (or almost) end of the manga. Dunno why, I just feel this way. mellow.gif

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Posted 24 January 2011 - 03:36 PM

QUOTE (theorangehokage @ Jan 23 2011, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But i have a question, if i may ask... Do you guys think sakura is gonna get a confession from naruto anytime soon??

No!! For me it's impossible right now. Sakura needs some developpement before that. Some things that can help her to realise her feelings for Naruto, because to me, she doesn't know it yet.
What or who can help Sakura?

What:

I don't think that a save from Naruto or heroic acts would be enough. Naruto has done that many times, and it didn't help.
But words? Yes, words from someone who can understand her feelings.
Yamato did a great job and if Naruto wasn't awake I think that she could realize them sooner. The problem with Sakura is that she doesn't like herself, always blaming herself that she can't do anything for Naruto, that she's weak and that she want to help him but that she always makes mistakes. If someone can help her with that, then it would be no problem to find the words that she really needs to realize her feelings (true feelings) for Naruto that are sealed deep inside her heart.

Who:
Who shows us the most intereset in Sakura's feelings in the manga? SAI!!!
He is the man! It's war, ok, yeah, I know, but war isn't fighting without taking a break or sleeping at night.
Sai already noticed some ambiguous feelings to Sakura. I think that he will discuss with her about that and will probably finds the words that can finally make her realize her feelings for the hero.

With Sai and Yamato's lesson Sakura will grow up like Kishi already does with the most of his ninjas.
After this developpement, than we will see real love from Sakura towards Naruto (not an official NaruSaku yet), with a new personality thanks to Yamato's lesson,


Naruto's confession will be possible after those things. A Naruto that also grown up after his conversation with his mother about the true happiness of a Jinchuuriki.


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Posted 24 January 2011 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (Sojobo @ Jan 24 2011, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No!! For me it's impossible right now. Sakura needs some developpement before that. Some things that can help her to realise her feelings for Naruto, because to me, she doesn't know it yet.
What or who can help Sakura?


Possible death before, during or after the fight with Sasuke would also be a good motivator. Understanding the reality that she may lose Naruto for good.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 12:55 AM

True.. kruemelmonsteryn0.gif but it did look like he die at beginning of OVA and my face went: O_____O..... Is he really dead?!?!?!!??
I mean, i was freaking out on tht but then i saw the hand shoot up (:

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 01:15 AM

Dear fellow NS-ers
HAPPY BELATED NEW YEAR!!!!

Now if you need a good NS fix since the manga is either slow-moving or boring, look towards fanfics like I have. Just note there hasn't been much quality NS fics so I advise you to look into oldies. But check this one "Team 7 wielding ninja" under Naruto & DBZ crossover. Sakura is a half-saiyan and the storyline is very good with DBZ's original. Yes NS are the eventually pairing my friends...
I glad there's no Sasuke or Naruto right now. Sasuke is irritating and we can already figure his outcome. Naruto's fights are too long and eventually become uninteresting especially since he does the same kitten repeatedly just in new styles. Plus we know he'll be badass hero in the end. Whether he dies or live with a happy ending is questionable.
So obviously we'll be focus on Kakashi & hopefully Sakura for the next month. It's no surprise that Shikamaru will have some spotlight since Asuma is resurrected so I'm sight for that battle. Obviously Naruto & Sasuke are dormant until maybe fall or winter. So everyone enjoy it because you know how long the Naruto vs Sasuke will be and after 3 or 4 chapters (unless Kishi provide some twist) you're tired, bored, & annoyed.
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Posted 26 January 2011 - 12:44 AM

kishi will do a twist before the naruto vs sasuke fight.. definetly.. he needs to last out as long as he can before he will reveal it.. to create suspense..

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#2032 Sojobo

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 01:11 AM

Some NaruSaku proof. danarusakunp3.gif

Nothing new, just for remembering how obvious it is rolleyes.gif

Can't wait for a new NaruSaku moment....


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Posted 26 January 2011 - 01:21 AM

i cant wait either eager.gif ! but there is alot of twists to go thru first >.>

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#2034 maliousdei

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:10 PM

hey guys, what's your opinion on the "who's the better heroine?" debate that's been going on?

personally, i think that sakura ultimately has hinata out-classed, but what do you guys think?

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:28 PM

The definition of a hero is someone who develops, like someone who has trained under the 5th Hokage. Someone who isn't afraid to stick up for what they believe in, like a certain female from Team 7. Someone with a critical flaw. Like a temper. Seems pretty obvious to me.
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Posted 28 January 2011 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE (maliousdei @ Jan 28 2011, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey guys, what's your opinion on the "who's the better heroine?" debate that's been going on?

personally, i think that sakura ultimately has hinata out-classed, but what do you guys think?


is it okay to talk about it here...?? unsure.gif well sakura of course! why? she has done some pretty heroic stuff! what? I'll tell you~
1. defeated sasori, and killed him about three times!! a) smashed haruko b) smashed his first body c) threw some monster thing at his second body. and even protected and saved chiyo TWICE

2. took charge of the medics during the war, when shizune and tsunade was down. healed kankuro, hinata, and naruto.

3. defeated one of Pain's summonings with one PUNCH!! (saving that little girl)

4. took a whole new leap to kill sasuke, for naruto's sake

5. too add she even made an antidote that chiyo even couldnt make. and made a powerful sleepy bomb that took sai, kiba, and lee out lol

shes a pretty good heroine :3

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 12:23 AM

QUOTE (TheOmegaMan @ Jan 28 2011, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The definition of a hero is someone who develops, like someone who has trained under the 5th Hokage. Someone who isn't afraid to stick up for what they believe in, like a certain female from Team 7. Someone with a critical flaw. Like a temper. Seems pretty obvious to me.


The problem I have with this definition is that even a horrible monster can stand up for what they believe. Their ideal might be monstrous, but they could still stand up for it just like the greatest of heroes. Additionally, a common villain trope is the villain who seeks an ideal that is, in and of itself, good. A Utopian ideal, world peace, so on, but are willing to use disastrous means to achieve it. They too, stand up for what they believe; so much so that they would inflict untold suffering for what people would normally consider a "good" goal.

Hinata also has a flaw: her shyness. I think this goes overlooked because most people don't think there is anything wrong with being shy. It doesn't make you a bad person or anything, but it is a flaw and in some cases can be serious.

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 12:27 AM

But I mentioned that they develop. I'm not talking about regression either. So sticking up for what they believe in through development. Making themselves better in all things.
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#2039 Miss Soupy

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 12:49 AM

QUOTE (Nate River @ Jan 28 2011, 08:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hinata also has a flaw: her shyness. I think this goes overlooked because most people don't think there is anything wrong with being shy. It doesn't make you a bad person or anything, but it is a flaw and in some cases can be serious.


Yeah, I could never really understand how anyone could say there isn't anything wrong with her being shy when Hinata herself thinks of it as a weakness XD What does that say about the fans screaming 'Hinata-hime is so perfect and her shyness is adorable'! Do they really even understand her character?

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Posted 29 January 2011 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Jan 29 2011, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I could never really understand how anyone could say there isn't anything wrong with her being shy when Hinata herself thinks of it as a weakness XD What does that say about the fans screaming 'Hinata-hime is so perfect and her shyness is adorable'! Do they really even understand her character?


Totally, I think Hinata is way too shy, for example, Orihime is also shy, but this fact doesn't stop her for trying to get closer to her love interest, Orihime is also bright, and character full of life, but Hinata, is aways standing there, gloomy, never doing anything, like she is expecting something to happen on it's own, and that's not how things work, at least not romanticaly.

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