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#2021 Don-kun

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:32 AM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Jul 4 2012, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I fully agree that 540 was the beginning of Sakura's reevaluation of her feelings for Sasuke, which will lead to her discarding whatever lingering romantic feelings she has left for him.

The bench scene could potentially play a role, but since it hasn't been brought up in regards to her feelings for Sasuke since ever, I don't know that it will. It could be that it will be revisited only in regards to Sakura's feelings for Naruto (since for all she knows, it was Sasuke and he didn't actually mean those words -"That sounds like something Naruto would say" --> Sakura's comically depressed face).


You know how many arguments I read about the bench scene not being a big factor since Sakura never thought about if in her confession and wend she was about to kill Sasuke.

What people really fail to understand, if an Author wants to keep fans guessing, wouldn't he be saying that NaruSaku is the end pairing because the main reason why Sakura still love Sasuke is because of the bench scene, if Kishi did show the bench scene has one of the main reason why Sakura still hold feelings for Sasuke that will be a give away and fans will then say that Sakura feelings are based on a lie and the moment she knows the truth that will end of SS, now Kishi as an Author who loves to keep the end pairing a mystery, also went to the extent of hurting Sakura's character, just to keep the fans guessing, I don't think he would do a mistake like that one.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 5 2012, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No offence but most of you aren't answering my question. Maybe that's because I didn't say it correctly.

I know that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are going to get resolved one way or another. What is going to trigger this resolve, and what will this resolve be.


It's been debated to death, tbh. But people never fail to come up with more and more possible scenarios. I think it's already been triggered. Sakura can't just switch off her feelings for Sasuke like a switch, it's impossible. In my guess, I say they're smoldering, slowly. Smoldering to a dim light that Naruto will eventually put out, and light with his own love ablaze.
 
 
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:22 PM

I think that in the final confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura will have to come to a final resolve. Whoever she chooses, we have to respect Kishi's choice for Sakura as the best choice.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jul 5 2012, 07:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that in the final confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura will have to come to a final resolve. Whoever she chooses, we have to respect Kishi's choice for Sakura as the best choice.

I always hated when people say Sakura has to choose. It shouldn't be a choice, she should have no doubt whatsoever.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 5 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always hated when people say Sakura has to choose. It shouldn't be a choice, she should have no doubt whatsoever.


I want her to have her feelings resolve before the fight too, but there's a possibility that she may have role to play in Naruto and Sasuke's final battle.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jul 5 2012, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think that in the final confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke, Sakura will have to come to a final resolve. Whoever she chooses, we have to respect Kishi's choice for Sakura as the best choice.


so if "she" chooses sasuke is the best choice?
man he tried to kill her 3 times and didnt show any romantic feelings for her, if he make sasusaku canon does not make sense because he said too many times that she is the main heroine and wants to builder her character more, he would be like throwing her development out plus the bad message it implies.

So choosing naurto is the best choice not because we are narusaku but because he always did the things for her, cheer her up and fill her loneliness, naruto change sakura into a girl with a great determination, despite being stubborn, pratically all sakura's development comes from naruto.
And speaking of she still has unresolved feelings for naruto, she does not see sasuke as an awesome guy anymore, but at the same time naruto is growing as a man and shinobi.

Speaking wich at the first chapter of shippuuden we could had NS canon if naruto wasnt stupid.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Jul 4 2012, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A revisit to the bench scene.

with a flashback to Naruto and Kushina's talk :3

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:44 PM

If there is a flashback or reference to Minato and Kushina's relationship, I would most want this scenario:
Sakura says something about her refusin to leave his side, that he doesn't have to do everything on his own because she will shoulder his burdens with him, and this causes Naruto to recall what Itachi said about how Minato had Kushina by his side to help him, and then he smiles and accepts her help, thanking her.

/fangirl wanking

And I agree completely with Fenris in regards to Sakura's feelings transitioning - falling in love and falling out of love is a process, not something tha happens overnight. Given that she's had only 2 brief interactions with Sasuke in the four years since she's confessed, it's not surprising she still has some lingering feelings that she hasn't been able to completely let go of yet. It's also meant to add more drama to the romance subplot I'm sure.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:58 PM

I have a hunch that Sakura will encounter Madara. Naruto will have to play the hero role once again tongue.gif

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Jul 5 2012, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a hunch that Sakura will encounter Madara. Naruto will have to play the hero role once again tongue.gif

I hope not. We have already seen that Naruto and Sasuke can go toe to toe with some of the most powerful shinobi who have ever lived. I want the same for Sakura.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 5 2012, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope not. We have already seen that Naruto and Sasuke can go toe to toe with some of the most powerful shinobi who have ever lived. I want the same for Sakura.

...sorry to say that if Sakura vs. Madara happened - Madara, who is winnng in a fight against all 5 kage, by the way - Sakura wouldn't last long at all.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Jul 5 2012, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...sorry to say that if Sakura vs. Madara happened - Madara, who is winnng in a fight against all 5 kage, by the way - Sakura wouldn't last long at all.

And thats percicely the reason I think Sakura needs a powerup.

Orochimaru Jiraiya and Tsunade were all extremely powerful in there time.

by that logic...

Naruto Sasuke and Sakura have all surpassed there masters.


But that's just the problem, the only one who hasn't done that yet is Sakura.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 5 2012, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And thats percicely the reason I think Sakura needs a powerup.

Orochimaru Jiraiya and Tsunade were all extremely powerful in there time.

by that logic...

Naruto Sasuke and Sakura have all surpassed there masters.


But that's just the problem, the only one who hasn't done that yet is Sakura.

fighting someone that Naruto Kakashi and Gai are having trouble with, I don't care what kind of powerup she has it isn't gonna cut it.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 5 2012, 08:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope not. We have already seen that Naruto and Sasuke can go toe to toe with some of the most powerful shinobi who have ever lived. I want the same for Sakura.


I hope Kishi will surprise us with another Sakura power up. After all, all her training excluding the tree climbing and healing fish training is off screen.


QUOTE (zacrathedemon5 @ Jul 5 2012, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
...sorry to say that if Sakura vs. Madara happened - Madara, who is winnng in a fight against all 5 kage, by the way - Sakura wouldn't last long at all.


I don't think it's not about winning, but surviving is the factor for her. If she could prove that, then this will be a slap in the face for all anti- Sakura base fans.


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:09 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 6 2012, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And thats percicely the reason I think Sakura needs a powerup.

Orochimaru Jiraiya and Tsunade were all extremely powerful in there time.

by that logic...

Naruto Sasuke and Sakura have all surpassed there masters.


But that's just the problem, the only one who hasn't done that yet is Sakura.


I don't understand why people over here are thinking that sakura will be getting any kind of power up or she will surpass tsunade. I do agree Naruto surpassed jiraiya but their is no such solid proof as to say sasuke surpassed him because sasuke imself said he was able to defeat oro was because he was weak at that time and for some reason I never thought sakura will get much of a main role in the war especially not against the final villain or 10 tails if it comes.

The only people I see fighting the final villain is either Naruto alone or Nartuo and sasuke together, with sakura crying later on if someone or both of them die. Believe me guys I am no big Sakura hater, yes I don't like her that much because I don't understand how can she be still in love with sasuke and not naruto even after so many things naruto did for her, but from the very beginning the only reason I found sakura in the manga was to be the love interest of the just by name main character(sorry even if Naruto is my favourite I don't think that kishi is making him the main character, everything just revolves around sasuke and uchihas) and to ignore Naruto most of times in part 1 and make selfish request and in part 2 she did defeat sasori but after that I hardly found anything she did as what a main character should do.

I believe many of you will say me a sakura basher but these are my opinions and thoughts and I don't consider them as bashing towards sakura but I consider them to be true facts. I don't think it is at all good thing wasting time on thinking whether sakura will get any power up or she will help Naruto in the battle with final villain. I am ready to bet that sakura won't be having any more important role other than saving Naruto or Sasuke in death like situation, crying over seeing naruto and sasuke fight or just be good for nothing till the very end.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:20 PM

I really hope Kishimoto at least tries to redeem Sakura. Nothing would be more satisfying then having Sakura finally able to be on the level of the sanin like Naruto and Sasuke are.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 07:30 PM

QUOTE (Paptala @ Jul 5 2012, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If there is a flashback or reference to Minato and Kushina's relationship, I would most want this scenario:
Sakura says something about her refusin to leave his side, that he doesn't have to do everything on his own because she will shoulder his burdens with him, and this causes Naruto to recall what Itachi said about how Minato had Kushina by his side to help him, and then he smiles and accepts her help, thanking her.

/fangirl wanking

And I agree completely with Fenris in regards to Sakura's feelings transitioning - falling in love and falling out of love is a process, not something tha happens overnight. Given that she's had only 2 brief interactions with Sasuke in the four years since she's confessed, it's not surprising she still has some lingering feelings that she hasn't been able to completely let go of yet. It's also meant to add more drama to the romance subplot I'm sure.


And the two times they briefly met, he has tried to kill her, or hurt her in some way. To me, for her to still be in love with Sasuke is STUPID. It's stupid because he has done nothing for her in Part 1 that would make her fall in love with him, or for her still be in love with him after everything he has done in Part 2 and what little he has done specifically for her in Part 1.

I understand still having feelings for the guy, but to still be in love with him is stupid. Not only that, she now knows how Naruto feels about her, so for her to still love a criminal who has done nothing for her, while she already has someone who actually does love her close by makes her seem........immature.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:28 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jul 5 2012, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And the two times they briefly met, he has tried to kill her, or hurt her in some way. To me, for her to still be in love with Sasuke is STUPID. It's stupid because he has done nothing for her in Part 1 that would make her fall in love with him, or for her still be in love with him after everything he has done in Part 2 and what little he has done specifically for her in Part 1.

I understand still having feelings for the guy, but to still be in love with him is stupid. Not only that, she now knows how Naruto feels about her, so for her to still love a criminal who has done nothing for her, while she already has someone who actually does love her close by makes her seem........immature.


Actually to my opinion, Sakura in a way is suffering from gaslighting or any other Psychological Abuses. Even though, she's not married or in a relationship with Sasuke. Kishi stated in his earlier interviews that Sakura is a normal girl. Clearly, she's not. We seen both physically and mentally Sasuke has lashed out at Sakura. This is the problem a I get with people, ranting that Sakura is stupid to still fall in love with Sasuke. They're only looking at it from the outside. But in the inside, she'e fragile like a twig to Sasuke's dispense. And it's to my believe that Kishi is trying to set Sakura free, by witnessing the lost of her love ones, like Naruto and her parents. She has yet to suffer lost love ones as of now, and it may be the only key to eradicate any Psychological behavior... Thus leading to NS.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 5 2012, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really hope Kishimoto at least tries to redeem Sakura. Nothing would be more satisfying then having Sakura finally able to be on the level of the sanin like Naruto and Sasuke are.


i prefer to see sakura supporting naruto in one of his battles best than doing some bad scripting and giving powers to sakura from nowhere like he does with sasukemo, sakura plays the support role.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Jul 5 2012, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually to my opinion, Sakura in a way is suffering from gaslighting or any other Psychological Abuses. Even though, she's not married or in a relationship with Sasuke. Kishi stated in his earlier interviews that Sakura is a normal girl. Clearly, she's not. We seen both physically and mentally Sasuke has lashed out at Sakura. This is the problem a I get with people, ranting that Sakura is stupid to still fall in love with Sasuke. They're only looking at it from the outside. But in the inside, she'e fragile like a twig to Sasuke's dispense. And it's to my believe that Kishi is trying to set Sakura free, by witnessing the lost of her love ones, like Naruto and her parents. She has yet to suffer lost love ones as of now, and it may be the only key to eradicate any Psychological behavior... Thus leading to NS.


I sort of agree with what you said, but I never said Sakura was stupid for loving Sasuke, I just think it's immature of her. What I think is stupid is that author is trying to convince us that she is still in love with Sasuke, yet hasn't given us any legit reasons why should she.





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