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[TouKen4Life3g]

Huh, what next movie? Sorry for being so clueless...

That's ok. I should have said it. I'm referring to How to Train Your Dragon 2.

[Angelus87]

Best argument of SS and NH did i have seen most time.

" If Kishi wanted NS make canon he would do this earlier. Now that Sasuke s back and Sakura still love him NS s dead"

 

i think what kind of logic it s? I would say if Kishi didnt want NS then he would make Naruto to fall for Hinata or at least stop his love for Sakura and stop make scenes of NS.

[AHK]

Best argument of SS and NH did i have seen most time.
" If Kishi wanted NS make canon he would do this earlier. Now that Sasuke s back and Sakura still love him NS s dead"
 
i think what kind of logic it s? I would say if Kishi didnt want NS then he would make Naruto to fall for Hinata or at least stop his love for Sakura and stop make scenes of NS.

What does it say about a ship when right after an emotional handholding scene the guy calls another girl his girlfriend?

[FireFox]

That would be awesome, and it'd totally fit in!

I know right it totally fits and its in character and with the way the story progress i just hope this happens  something has to happen between them before the fight they really need to talk about their feelings  XD

 

HTTYD 2 needs to come out fast

HTTYD was the only movie i ever saw in a theater      So this would a special thing for me to watch HTTYD 2 in a theater too  

 

Guys Game of thrones, poppin eyeballs, Explodin heads       Oh my god

Yeah i can't wait for the release to judging by the trailers its should be awesome as the first one maybe even better XD   

 

kittening GoT i didn't expected that i loved Oberyin's character and kittening hate the Mountain and wanted him DEAD like Joffrey and this is what happened the Viper got his skull crushed just when you thought that he would kill the Mountain  and poor Tyrion there goes his head   kitten this kitten i'm done predicting what's gonna happen in this series   , but damn the look on the Hound's face when he found out that Arya's aunt is dead so no prize and Arya's sick laugh that was hilarious really the Hound has no luck at all  . 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 03 June 2014 - 12:49 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The development of NS should have stopped since part 1. There's no need for anything. None. You may say, "Oh that could be said for NH." Well, they have a purpose, so NS moments are more personal and not like "need you for Team 7" or "help me to make me feel strong". No, it's personal when safety and dreams are involved. Again, shouldn't happen at all.

[ramenanmitsu]

I just heard that ppl are calling Naruto a sexist.

Is this true? Why is that?

[Shashank95]

I know right it totally fits and its in character and with the way the story progress i just hope this happens  something has to happen between them before the fight they really need to talk about their feelings  XD

 

Yeah i can't wait for the release to judging by the trailers its should be awesome as the first one maybe even better XD   

 

kittening GoT i didn't expected that i loved Oberyin's character and kittening hate the Mountain and wanted him DEAD like Joffrey and this is what happened the Viper got his skull crushed just when you thought that he would kill the Mountain  and poor Tyrion there goes his head   kitten this kitten i'm done predicting what's gonna happen in this series   , but damn the look on the Hound's face when he found out that Arya's aunt is dead so no prize and Arya's sick laugh that was hilarious really the Hound has no luck at all  . 

[FireFox]

I just heard that ppl are calling Naruto a sexist.

Is this true? Why is that?

Because Naruto supposedly doesn't have any faith in her abilities and in her because he saves her "sends" Sakura to the "kitchen" as they say but Sasuke is the opposite of that he has total faith in her that's why he didn't protect her because he knows his cherry blossom princes is strong and doesn't need help can you believe this kitten but that's SS for you  . 

 

@Shashank95 LOL right in the kokoro XD 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 03 June 2014 - 01:14 PM.

[Shashank95]

Because Naruto supposedly doesn't have any faith in her abilities and in her because he saves her "sends" Sakura to the "kitchen" as they say but Sasuke is the opposite of that he has total faith in her that's why he didn't protect her because he knows his cherry blossom princes is strong and doesn't need help can you believe this kitten but that's SS for you  . 

 

@Shashank95 LOL right in the kokoro XD 

I know man...... I know.

 

Seriously SS fans need to stop making up ridonculous theories to justify Sasuke's emo-ness and douchebaginess   ( I don't even know why i made those two words up)   

[ramenanmitsu]

Because Naruto supposedly doesn't have any faith in her abilities and in her because he saves her "sends" Sakura to the "kitchen" as they say but Sasuke is the opposite of that he has total faith in her that's why he didn't protect her because he knows his cherry blossom princes is strong and doesn't need help can you believe this kitten but that's SS for you  . 
 

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, thanks mate I had a good laugh which I didn't have for a while!

[tekopi]

Because Naruto supposedly doesn't have any faith in her abilities and in her because he saves her "sends" Sakura to the "kitchen" as they say but Sasuke is the opposite of that he has total faith in her that's why he didn't protect her because he knows his cherry blossom princes is strong and doesn't need help can you believe this kitten but that's SS for you  . 

 

@Shashank95 LOL right in the kokoro XD 

 

 

If he is, would he give in to Sakura's argument in this page in the first place? http://www.mangaread...t/naruto/631/17

 

Sometime this things is really pitiful to those who didn't see things in a bigger picture, and TWISTED the REAL FACTS. 

Edited by tekopi, 03 June 2014 - 02:10 PM.

[Syn11]

Now, the third portion of the Great Marriage Argument.   You can count it as an anti-SS reasoning. For the most part, SS-shippers tend not to acknowledge Sakura's and Sasuke's biographies. And that's the grand Achilles heel of their beloved pairing. I'm going to use the rule of contraries to build my proof.

 

Sasuke... -kun?

What's the usual reasoning behind Sakura and Sasuke's happily ever after?

 

Sakura loves Sasuke unconditionally and wants to bring him out of Darkness. 

If we do open manga instead of believing our creative imagination, we'll find out that Sakura sees Sasuke's shortcomings and voices those loud and clear. More than that, she neither trusts him, nor she thinks that he cares about his former teammate's well-being. She still hasn't demonstrated or even attempted at demonstrating to readers the infamous immortal love in any way (as opposed to Karin). At the same time, Kakashi told us that her old feelings underwent changes. Does she want to help him (like Naruto)? Yes. She's got a kind heart and an inspiring irrepressible man by her side (Naruto, if you're wondering). Does she love Sasuke as in "I want to be the mother of your kids"? I highly doubt it. There is a chance, of course. But if this feeble chance somehow prevails over the force of reason, we'll have a marriage catastrophy on our hands, not a fairytail. Why? Because Sasuke remains Sasuke, and Sakura remains Sakura.  

 

Sasuke respects and has a soft spot for Sakura (somewhere in the very depths of his tormented soul) and will choose her as his bride who's capable of fulfilling his dream - restore the Uchiha clan.

Sasuke loves his parents and brother. That's a fact as bright as a day. Sasuke respects Naruto? That's a debatable statement. Does he respect Sakura? Really? Show me some evidence, for example a page from the latest chapters. Sasuke used to have a soft spot for Sakura and Naruto. That's a fact too. Is it enough for him to desire Sakura as his future life partner? Ponder this twice.

 

First of all, is marriage or at least a serious romantic relationship on Sasuke's mind? People may project an image of a sex/love machine on him, but in reality this character doesn't even exhibit healthy or unhealty sexual inclinations (unlike most other males of his age). His priorities lie anywhere but romance. Or rather, Sasuke is fixated on Uchiha's ill-starred fate. And nothing else. Even if the idea of physically continuing his clan line emerges on Sasuke's radar, he'll be rational about the whole affair. And Sakura is not a rational option. A harem or a woman who is willing to play the role of a dutiful housewife and his rear services, that's the direction he'll take. 

 

Just like Sakura (or even more so), Sasuke's selfish and self-centered. He was the youngest child in the family, pampered by his brother and mother. And the following tragedy made his world even more egocentric or trauma-centric. He's one hell of a difficult youngster who believes that everyone around owes him because of the childhood misfortune. Now think about how two self-centered people would co-exist under the same roof? It's a fine recipe for interactional disaster. Sakura might try to act humbly and satisfy all her husband's requirements (that is, if she could guess what he needed), but in that case she would run out of energy very soon. We'd get a ghost of our passionate choleric Sakura under the condition of constantly dealing with that lack of response or scarce emotional reactions disturbed by ocassional fits of anger.

 

Perhaps, the provided agrument is not convincing enough. Well then, let's look into Sasuke's background. The only role model of a father and a husband he has turns to be Fugaku. The man was characterized by semi-cold, emotionally restrained and categorical attitude towards his children and wife. Moreover, he was prone to criticizing Itachi and Sasuke and always demanding. His sons had to reach perfection if they wanted his recognition and affection. At last, he sacrificed his family for the questionable coup, putting the interests of his clan above everything else. All or nothing, that's Uchiha Fugaku's motive. I'd say, a second Fugaku is the best Sakura can hope for. And such type of a partner would ruin her self-esteem irreversibly. There's no behavioral antidote to counterattack the poison of such intrafamily pressure in Sakura's arsenal. She wouldn't be able to alleviate the critical situation, only stubborn enough to escalate the discord or submit in the end and play the part of an abuse victim. Happily ever after? Or happily never after?

 

I'll complete my SS-obituary by stating that Sasuke is still a seven-year-old boy in his heart and mind, a lost boy who pushes all responsibility on others. He wants those others to take his hand and return the deceased loved ones to him. Hell, he can't make a stable mature decision without too many blunders and shady advisors along the way. Even now, he needs an adult to teach him what is right and what is wrong. Sakura's not that grown-up herself to be that adult. For the union to have a chance at success, Sasuke's wife should be a really wise (beyond one's years), calm and patient woman (even a more flexible and sensible version of Sasuke's mother). Or someone who doesn't give a d*mn about Sasuke not giving a d*mn (Karin?). That's my final diagnosis.

 

Thank you for your attention.

Edited by Syn11, 05 June 2014 - 11:14 PM.

[Gojira]

That's ok. I should have said it. I'm referring to How to Train Your Dragon 2.

"How to train your dragon" is one of Kishi's favorite films?

[TouKen4Life3g]

"How to train your dragon" is one of Kishi's favorite films?

Yes. It was in the interview. He praised it like he saw a masterpiece.

[luffyq1]

I just heard that ppl are calling Naruto a sexist.

Is this true? Why is that?

When Sakura finished healing him he told her to get some rest. That's where the sexiest comments came from. 

[TouKen4Life3g]

When Sakura finished healing him he told her to get some rest. That's where the sexiest comments came from. 

She meant currently. What Firefox said is true story. It's...ridiculous.

[luffyq1]

She meant currently. What Firefox said is true story. It's...ridiculous.

But that's where he was originally labeled, then it just gradually progressed from there by completely interpreting any NS scene differently.

[Gojira]

Yes. It was in the interview. He praised it like he saw a masterpiece.

Well I haven't seen it but now I'm kind of curious. Which interview was this?

[Shashank95]

THey are a bunch of Masochistic douchebags, The SS fanbase i mean and they call Naruto sexist ??

 

They need to get their heads straight.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well I haven't seen it but now I'm kind of curious. Which interview was this?

It should be the first one from RtN one.

But that's where he was originally labeled, then it just gradually progressed from there by completely interpreting any NS scene differently.

I know. It's...nonsense.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 03 June 2014 - 03:53 PM.