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[pharix]

I've wondered for a while what other reasons she could have had for making that sad face and haven't come up with anything /shrug

[RyrineaHaruno]

How, is that any fact that Sakura will even give up on Naruto. I agree with Froot they are Hypocrites.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

My only comment;

First of all, that look said nothing even close to ''Wow Hinata loves Naruto, I better step off and ask Naruto to stop being in love with me, because we Konoha nin should ALL appreciate that violet haired goddess with giant boobs!''

I may have overexaggerated, but that's basically their implication.

Secondly, if that's what they think the look meant, then they should accept that the look Hinata gave to Naruto and Sakura's hug was of acceptance. PLUS, hers wasn't sad, unlike Sakura's.

Hypocrites.

Indeed they are Hypocrites, and they don't want to accept the concluding part of Hinata's confession is the part she saw the hug of Sakura accepting it

and you know guys, a NH fan post contradicting to my post , saying that Naruto is Obliged to return Hinata's love because, he is acting selfish not confronting the feelings of Hinata.

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 04 October 2009 - 08:27 AM.

[MelisaArtemis]

a NH fan post contradicting to my post , saying that Naruto is Obliged to return Hinata's love because, he is acting selfish not confronting the feelings of Hinata.

Is he now? and they wanting Hinata to get him JUST because she confessed isn't? Tell them, if they wanna see someone selfish, look in the mirror. love is NOT an obligation, its a CHOICE. You CHOOSE your life partner, not OBLIGATED to. A relationship based on obligation is NOT love, its PITY or POLITICAL. Get the facts straight.

Edited by MelisaArtemis, 04 October 2009 - 11:52 AM.

[Jenskott]

Huzzah! Another point made by jenskott.

Oh, uh, by the way... I'm a she...

Oops.

I'm sorry about it. It's ironical because when I skim over a manga/anime-based board, I tend to think the most of the users are female.

And I really hate when they use ''Sakura's flat'' as an argument, or even just an insult. Firstly, she is not flat anyways. In fact, Sakura's cup size seems to be on average. It's sad how we've been reduced to stupid arguments about busts, but it has. It's the same as some NS fans calling Hinata fat. She's not fat, and Sakura isn't flat.

Don't cloud the issue with facts!

And who even cares?!

Not Naruto.

love the double standard in that argument.

she cant be with Naruto because shes not domestic material

she can be with Sasuke because shed be the perfect little babymaker

She cant be with Naruto because hes shallow and only likes her for her looks

she can be with Sasuke because of his looks

YAY Hypocrisy

Indeed. It's quite stupid. I guess they have come up with stuff because the manga doesn't give them many arguments.

Anyways, i got another debate again.. and this time, they are expecting a significance Sakura's sad face/truthful face when healing Hinata after she confessed and they are supposing Sakura is a NH FAN and with this Sakura wiil let go of Naruto:roll:

Now Sakura is a NH fan? Oh, my.

Then again, I have seen fans claiming Iruka is NH, Kakashi is anti-NS, Minato -Minato, of all the people!- is pro-NH and pro-SS...

When will they stop thinking this is a sitcom or a badly-written romance novel?

Hinata is Sakura's friend, I don't think she would let someone die just because they confessed their true love to the, supposed, guy se likes. If protecting and healing you friends means you support a pairing, then I don't know what else to say.

In fact, Sakura: a - isn't particularly close to Hinata (Ino fullfils her best friend's role, not Hinata. Granted, it hasn't played in the story for a long while, but Kishimoto stablished that relationship. He hasn't stablished such a relationship between Hinata and Sakura); and b - she doesn't know Hinata confessed. She guessed Hinata stepped in for Naruto, she may have guessed she loves him, but she doesn't know what Hinata told him.

Therefore, I don't understand why they think she'll let Naruto go for the Hinata's sake. She cares for Naruto way more than for Hinata. I can see her letting Naruto go if she thought he was in love with Hinata. But she has just been told and ackwnoledged he is in love with her!

Besides, I didn't see Sakura letting Naruto go when he returned to the town. I saw her clinging quite fiercely and tenderly to him, instead (and in the Japanese culture, you don't hug your friends. Only lovers hug at each other). And I saw Hinata stepping back, and beaming at them.

Case rests. Sakura wouldn't give up for Hinata's sake, and she has no reason to.

No big deal. I think many of those arguments were ones not even most serious NaruHina fans would make. The hitting is a personal favorite mine though because it so totally misses the mark as to be downright hilarious. It's a complete misunderstanding of the difference between not liking a given trope and the trope's meaning.

That you hate the trope doesn't change its existence or meaning. I can understand people not liking, but it doesn't change anything. There are scores of anime that prove the poster wrong.

Completely agreed.

Personally, when I read a fanfic treats the hitting like if it was an instance of domestic abuse, I usully hit the BACK button. I can't treat seriously one story treats THAT seriously.

Oops, I have to leave now. I'll be back later.

[Froot]

I've got a problem, guys.

Now, don't give this one much credit, because I found it over in the forums at Viz. I myself am not giving it much credit, but things like this gnaw at me, so I ran home back to H & E in hopes that you guys could totally obliterate it - Like I know you will.

They said, "In an interview masashi said he doesnt pair up the main girl and main guy"

I was hoping you guys would know something about it. I told him to give a link, but...

Give it a go?

[Derock]

I've got a problem, guys.

Now, don't give this one much credit, because I found it over in the forums at Viz. I myself am not giving it much credit, but things like this gnaw at me, so I ran home back to H & E in hopes that you guys could totally obliterate it - Like I know you will.

They said, "In an interview masashi said he doesnt pair up the main girl and main guy"

I was hoping you guys would know something about it. I told him to give a link, but...

Give it a go?

Where's the proof? As in, where's the page/magazine article/image, etc.? Because I hardly ever recall seeing that sentence. If there isn't any, its a fake.

[Jenskott]

I've got a problem, guys.

Now, don't give this one much credit, because I found it over in the forums at Viz. I myself am not giving it much credit, but things like this gnaw at me, so I ran home back to H & E in hopes that you guys could totally obliterate it - Like I know you will.

They said, "In an interview masashi said he doesnt pair up the main girl and main guy"

I was hoping you guys would know something about it. I told him to give a link, but...

Give it a go?

Unless that person can provide you with any proof (like said Derock, a page, magazine article...) call it a fake.

Have you read any of the proven Kishimoto's interviews? He never tells anything about the end, and even he can get quite ambiguous.

I ALWAYS distrust "in an interview, Masashi told Character A y B will end up together" claims because the fan who states them never provides concrete proof, and character A y B infallibly are the pairing he/she ships. I have never seen a NH fan claiming Kishimoto told there would be NS...

Moreover, that sentence sounds... awkward. There something amiss -not quite right- in it. Maybe it's the verb tense. Maybe it's that statement seems coming from nowhere.

Yes, it sounds like anti-NS despair. You should laugh at or snort about it and forget it.

Case rests. Kishimoto is NOT going to reveal details of the end beforehand.

[Sherry]

I've got a problem, guys.

Now, don't give this one much credit, because I found it over in the forums at Viz. I myself am not giving it much credit, but things like this gnaw at me, so I ran home back to H & E in hopes that you guys could totally obliterate it - Like I know you will.

They said, "In an interview masashi said he doesnt pair up the main girl and main guy"

I was hoping you guys would know something about it. I told him to give a link, but...

Give it a go?

Actually I don't believe it. yeah, like what Jenskott said, he didn't tell who is the main girl (or/and guy) or maybe the sentence hadn't finished. It's maybe kinda "he doesn't pair up the main girl and main guy" and there was still continuing words "in what organization" or "in what group" or it just happens in his another story, or what, because...
if it's true, if the main guy was naruto and the main girl was sakura, if it happens in naruto's story, I don't understand what Kishi thinks. I mean, what for he made many narusaku moments for a very long time if they wouldn't end up together? He would be considered, by me, as an unserious and inconsistant writer, because he makes unlogical and come-on-love-is-just-a-game-that-I-could-pair-someone-with-someone-else-unknown story.

But I trust Kishi and his story. I know he's not a man that don't know the essential of love.

Edited by Sherry, 05 October 2009 - 02:26 PM.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

I've got a problem, guys.

Now, don't give this one much credit, because I found it over in the forums at Viz. I myself am not giving it much credit, but things like this gnaw at me, so I ran home back to H & E in hopes that you guys could totally obliterate it - Like I know you will.

They said, "In an interview masashi said he doesnt pair up the main girl and main guy"

I was hoping you guys would know something about it. I told him to give a link, but...

Give it a go?

All i can say is, mostly NH shippers tend to present this kind of stuff.. "in the interview Kish said", all they can say is the interview and not providing any concrete evidence to support this...

[RasenHolder]

Narusaku's so gonna happen i can see it
lol i some how had a dream about it heres how it all goes..:
*naruto is sat down still wondering about the raikage and sasuk killing eachother thinking:where are you sasuke*
*naruto is sat on a cliff top and its night hes staring into the night sky*
*sakura comes to him*
S:Naruto?
N: Sakura.. I dunno who im gonna be with weither if its you or hinata...
(Random eh why would he be with hinata its so sakura )
S:*walks over to naruto bends over and gives him a nice long slow kiss*
N: O///O!!
S: ^///^! you know the answer now..

Then it ends.. weird huh..
this is like a dream i had about the next 20 chapters of somthing 10.. cos its like past the kage meeting and theyre back in konoha and they had theyre "talk" and sakura said somthing like shes not sure.. and then that...



Yeah thats all what I dreamed :S I dunno weither im being stupid or somthing or yeah...

[Cupcake-chan]

Well... that's a pretty random dream XD

Anyways, being a NaruSaku fan you always think that NaruSaku is going to become canon. But you never know, Kisi might or might not pair them together. Now, all we can do is wait and read on., hoping that there'll be more NaruSaku moments.

If you want to talk about your dreams you can go to the Share Your Dreams forum.

[Nate River]

I've got a problem, guys.

Now, don't give this one much credit, because I found it over in the forums at Viz. I myself am not giving it much credit, but things like this gnaw at me, so I ran home back to H & E in hopes that you guys could totally obliterate it - Like I know you will.

They said, "In an interview masashi said he doesnt pair up the main girl and main guy"

I was hoping you guys would know something about it. I told him to give a link, but...

Give it a go?

It's as the others said. Make them prove it and actually cite to source material. If they can't do that then the argument is totally meritless and should be ignored. Anybody can say "Kishi said."

The other response is that it doesn't mean much anyone because the last thing he's going to do is spoil the ending. Whenever he has been asked questions like that he's always given really evasive answers because he doesn't want to spoil the ending.

[pinkheartsyellowstars]

Guys, my another observation from a Nh shipper, they takes serious the Comedy scenes between Naruto and Sakura, where Sakura hurts Naruto and they argue if Naruto is so Unselfish, why he still want to have a date with Sakura, even though he knows SAkura loves Sasuke

What do you guys thinks.. is it reasonable?

[Miss Soupy]

Guys, my another observation from a Nh shipper, they takes serious the Comedy scenes between Naruto and Sakura, where Sakura hurts Naruto and they argue if Naruto is so Unselfish, why he still want to have a date with Sakura, even though he knows SAkura loves Sasuke

What do you guys thinks.. is it reasonable?

Ahhh, well isn't the answer right there in the question? Yes, he asks Sakura out, but he does it in a comedic way. He doesn't ask her out seriously anymore all because he believes she is still in love with Sasuke. That is how he is unselfish. Wanting to spend time with Sakura doesn't make him selfish. They are good friends who care about each other; spending time together is natural, whether it is a 'date' or not.

On another note, I was really surprised to find some NH and SS say that Sai's recent affirmation of Naruto's feelings towards Sakura actually meant the opposite...

Sai asks Naruto if he likes Sakura. Naruto looks surprised and Sai asks why he hasn't told her his feelings yet.

Naruto says, "How can I? I can't even keep my promises."

Apparently, some fans think the 'How can I?' means he is implying he can no longer love her =_=;;

[Froot]

Guys, my another observation from a Nh shipper, they takes serious the Comedy scenes between Naruto and Sakura, where Sakura hurts Naruto and they argue if Naruto is so Unselfish, why he still want to have a date with Sakura, even though he knows SAkura loves Sasuke

What do you guys thinks.. is it reasonable?

It's funny, is what it is. To be quite honest, I am TIRED of destroying that trite and cliche argument. All the time over at the Viz forums I see that lame argument.

All I can say is that Naruto deserved to be hit those times, because he was either being

A. A pervert
B. A jerk

And if Sakura didn't ''discipline'' him, so to speak, he'd keep on acting up.

Sorry for the weakness of that, but I've battled that argument 100 too many times and really want to move onto the next one.

I haven't seen this one yet.

Wasn't Naruto holding back from Sakura because he is so unselfish? Yes, in fact, he did. But that's not my main point.

It's not selfish to force someone to get together with someone else because they confessed, when they know that person is in love with someone else? And it's not selfish to want Sakura to get with Sasuke just to get her out of the way?

Where? Where on earth could that be considered unselfish?

Up your own a$s, is where. Either that, or the Viz forums.

...Seriously, guys, I'm getting swamped over there. I started this thread where people brought their best NaruHina arguments and I would disprove them, and I did, but in one day I got over 15 replies. Granted, they were weak arguments, but it's a lot to handle. I need back up. Who wants to be a martyr?

[TwilightLink20xx]

^Get me a link, I've already joined, lol.

[Froot]

^Get me a link, I've already joined, lol.

I actually posted a topic with a link

[Sherry]

I'm thinking about the opening or ending in anime as Hinata's confession is near...

I get curious about that but a bit sad too, realizing that there would be somewhat Hinata doing something kinda unexpected in the opening later...maybe

and I have to be more patient watching that episodes of that opening....being such a pairing fan needs more calming down

but I get more curious to know the opening of Narusaku hug!!

even though I know it's still so faaar

[Merger Knight]

I've wondered for a while what other reasons she could have had for making that sad face and haven't come up with anything /shrug

maybe she's just sad cause she can't admit it her self