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[HuskyLover]

I disagree. You should compare against the lifetime of the product, starting from initial release until the producer stop producing it. Not just by its first week. You will then get a true picture whether product A is more successful than product B.

My colleagues in logistics division used to tell me that comparing first week sales of different products within the same family is like comparing apples and oranges. They're just not comparable.

In supply chain, first week sales and preorders are mostly used to gauge inventory level and reorder plan for subsequent production batch. You don't book your order to manufacturer to produce one million copies at one go. You stagger based on the demand of the market. This is necessary to avoid goods return due to oversupply which can result to write-off.

The key value is actually the demand rate across period. There are products which has so-so/predictable first period, but across its lifetime they maintained their demand (different segments buy at different time, in different location).

There are also products which has superb first period, but unable to maintain their demand across its lifetime (segments who wanted it the most already bought it, and other segments are not interested).

The last volume of Naruto managed to sell about 870k copies in its first week, but the second week drops significantly to be barely 180k copies. By ratio, that was a very huge drop. And when you compare to the historical sales of this franchise, you'll never see so much drops in the second week. People who followed this series for long time can relate...

So, don't judge too quick. Let's wait and see...

 

Well, Is this enough to convince you.

 

Japan DVD/BD yearly sales 2013 (December 2012 - December 2013) : http://www.someanithing.com/591

 

Road to Ninja only had 18,890 total DVD sales.......As for BD sales, It's not shown (but it's not greater than the DVD sales)

 

It seems that the Last already supassed RTN's total sales in 2013 in just a week. 

Edited by HuskyLover, 28 July 2015 - 04:55 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So false?

Exaggerated, yes. Like each games carry a different meaning. It's as if he/she based that one game and think it's the same for the rest. You can always tackle something within one theme.

[hinataiscreepy]

Never owned a PlayStation and never played any of the Metal Gear games. But I've heard that his writing in those games is really boring and crappy. He talks on and on about war but nothing gets resolved in the end. And he likes to have really boring and unnecessary cutscenes that don't really lead anywhere. It's just trying to invoke emotion about that subject.

So how true is this?

 

This is a tough one cause it really depends on you but you have to take into account that's its a japanese game with a different culture (they tend to prefer to be more passive and love long exposition) and mindset on how to tell a story. Americans tend fail to take this into account (cause we always think we are better than everyone) and we probably have the shortest attention span in the whole wide world. I think the anime format and atmosphere make the cheesy dialogues work and people fail to take into account that its not a 100 percent hollywood film and more like a japanese anime series.

 

The best I could say is to make your own opinion but its definitely better than Naruto for sure.

 

Edit: Watch 1 through 4 (the order of release). I can provide the links for the better players and editors.

 

 

Edited by hinataiscreepy, 28 July 2015 - 05:02 PM.

[Gaara's hair]

The answer is depends on the person and you have to experience it yourself. But I like Metal Gear.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Funny, because it still contain one of the best writing in video games. Metal Gear has a really great concept that Kojima provided with a lot of explanation, so you don't feel left out. I do remember almost got lost in MGS2, because of that crazy twist, but it does make sense on why it all happened in the first place. There is a video series that recap everything and it all leads to the fourth game. I was overblowned.

[LuckyChi7]

If you actually think about Kishimoto was really vague about anything related to Naruto. He never really gave us a straight answer in his previous interviews.

 

That is the sad, but honest truth. 

 

 

You know what's funny I was rewatching the trailer for Naruto Shippuden The Movie Bonds and I remember I was looking forward to it at the time because it was suppose to be the big reunion between Naruto and Sasuke yet it turned out to just oh Hey you're here in like  the last ten minutes. Granted I did find myself liking the movie to a degree, but seriously trailers for Bonds were so misleading. 

 

 

Then you have the new Psycho Pass Movie which is finally out on the internet with subs, and the trailers were marketing it as The long awaited reunion between Akane and Kougami.  Here is what I'm going to say right now unlike Bonds, Psycho Pass The Movie were on point with the marketing with the trailer and tv spots to promote the movie. It wasn't just a tease no This was literarly the long awaited reunion between Akane and Kougami  which is something I really appreciated about the movie.

Edited by LuckyChi7, 28 July 2015 - 05:12 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Never owned a PlayStation and never played any of the Metal Gear games. But I've heard that his writing in those games is really boring and crappy. He talks on and on about war but nothing gets resolved in the end. And he likes to have really boring and unnecessary cutscenes that don't really lead anywhere. It's just trying to invoke emotion about that subject.

So how true is this?

No its not true there funny moments

 

Metal Gear Solid has a genuine charm that came from a person. Hideo Kojima, the creator and director of the series, has filled this game with all kinds of easter eggs and quirks that no other game has. When you need to contact Meryl via the codec, Colonel Campbell tells you, “Look on the back of the game case for her frequency.” You fumble around, knock over a bag of cheetos to dig up the gem-case and flip it over to find that there’s a small screenshot of Meryl and Snake talking, where you see her codec number of 140.15. It’s brilliant, and it not only interacts further with the player on a level of reality, but the game builds a relationship with you that you love for making you laugh at something that’s really kind of silly. I won’t even go into Psycho Mantis, but I’m sure anyone that’s played the game knows what I mean when I say, “Don’t forget to put your controller back into port 1.”

 

I mean Gray Fox is one of the most revered characters in videogame history not because he’s a cyborg ninja, but because his back story is so kittening awesome. Gray Fox isn’t out for revenge or anything so juvenile, in his world of darkness he craves that thing that made him feel alive: to do battle with Solid Snake. “Make me feel it, make me feel alive again!” gives me chills to this day. The relationship between Snake and Gray Fox goes so far beyond anything that any other game has attempted to produce. I mean another one comes to mind right now is Big Boss and The Boss from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater–who were beyond regular relationship contrivances.

 

I mean with this game you care about every character in Metal Gear Solid games. From Solid Snake to Liquid Snake, every single person has a reason to be there and matters to the story. Even the bosses are treated with respect and dignity when they’re killed. Snake stays by Sniper Wolf’s side as she dies to hear her last words, and even ends her misery.

 

I mean its a game like other are saying you have to play for yourself, I mean Kojima shows thast war is something that will never end but shows that people will keep fighting for Peace this is shown at the end of Peace Walker. So I say if you ever have a chance Play the games they are very good and makes you have to think out side the box if you will.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Funny, because it still contain one of the best writing in video games. Metal Gear has a really great concept that Kojima provided with a lot of explanation, so you don't feel left out. I do remember almost got lost in MGS2, because of that crazy twist, but it does make sense on why it all happened in the first place. There is a video series that recap everything and it all leads to the fourth game. I was overblowned.

That is true man I mean I found MGS2 odd as well, not to mention man that in the forth game you get to go back to Shadow moses Island I mean Kojima knows how to treat his fans and knows what is the right thing to do as a writer its why I will always put him far about Kishi and that if I saw Kishi I would tell him Kojima will always be a better writer, that can treat woman in the right way.

 

I mean need I have to say the bad ass females that we have got in the game that Kojima made in all the games we have seen, had to fight and worked with us in the games, I mean I still cry when I have to kill the Boss and I will say this game makes me cry when its comes to the very sad moments that I have to do.

 

And now with have the phantom pain which Big Boss becomes Evil and knowing Kojima he will do a good job at showing us the decent to Big Boss's decent into madness for him to become the bad guy that we all know.

[Narufan85]

I'm going to say this. I wish I never read this story in the first place. I wish I never knew it existed.

 

I feel the same way sometimes.

[hinataiscreepy]

The red herrings of MGS series tend to be mind-blowing and make a lot of sense.

 

MGS2 was ridiculed first. However, the game makes a lot more sense to the community due to how the world turned in our real lives. Its now becoming more and more relevant.

 

Edit: Guys stop spoiling for nostradus

Edited by hinataiscreepy, 28 July 2015 - 05:44 PM.

[六道仙人]

? Sarada has a crush for Nardo? My new OTP now

[TheFirstEvil100]

The red herrings of MGS series tend to be mind-blowing and make a lot of sense.

 

MGS2 was ridiculed first. However, the game makes a lot more sense to the community due to how the world turned in our real lives. Its now becoming more and more relevant.

 

Edit: Guys stop spoiling for nostradus

That's true which is what I like about the games

 

sadly Nostradus has not got a playstation

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

That's all, 30,000 copies sold in its first week?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well, it's official. Kishimoto is done with Naruto. He wants to rest. At least he decided to end it rather than continue to take advantage. So my adventure is done.

[HuskyLover]

Lol, I saw the link. He says that the movie is "Perfect". 

 

more false hype ??? 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Lol, I saw the link. He says that the movie is "Perfect". 

 

more false hype ??? 

 

Most likely, man. Too bad he can't just go back and retcon all he did THEN bail, as in do the story as he wanted to do, like what Hiroyuki Takei did with the ending of Shaman King. 

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

 

Most likely, man. Too bad he can't just go back and retcon all he did THEN bail, as in do the story as he wanted to do, like what Hiroyuki Takei did with the ending of Shaman King. 

 

It will be very easy too do. All he has to do is declare the final two chapters, TL and the Naruto Gaiden not to be canon.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

It will be very easy too do. All he has to do is declare the final two chapters, TL and the Naruto Gaiden not to be canon.

 

Yeah, like Mr. Takei did with Shaman King's last issues in Shonen Jump before he went and did the Kang Zeng Bang! special editions.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

exactly. Just go with the open ending. 

[LuckyChi7]

 

It will be very easy too do. All he has to do is declare the final two chapters, TL and the Naruto Gaiden not to be canon.

 

Unfornatutely doing that would mean pissing off his popular fanbase, and sadly Kishi rather appease them than do what he thinks is best for the story. Writing a story shouldn't be about the popularity of character or which couples are the most popular,  A story should be a journey about where the characters go through and the message they set by the end for people to say it's a classic that sends a great message for kids and adults.   

 

Also a story doesn't always have a happy ending I mean lets look at Mockingjay the final book of Hunger Games, and as much as I hate bringing it up Allegiant the final book in the Divergent series those books didn't have happy endings.  

Edited by LuckyChi7, 28 July 2015 - 06:40 PM.