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#1981 choco2

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:06 AM

you know the only thing that annoys me the most about this movie is that they're suddenly making the side character the main heroine, i mean it's supposed to be about the hyuga clan and everything but now it seems like "hinata's love story the movie" i mean even that scarf showed more than sakura in all of this :ermm:

maybe the reason why hinata is being the center of the attention now because she will be the new heroine in the new era project  :zaru:

 

For me , Naruto will confirm Hinata is just in friend-zone (he will always care about her like he did to all his friends)  so he will save his sister  :zaru:

In Naruto Shippuden 3 : Naruto went to save Kakashi (his senesi) that doesn't mean he in love with him lol

 

But when Naruto went to save Sakura in RTN and in the end of the movie he asked her for a date  :pimp:


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:06 AM

The difference is that this one is the last Movie and Kishi has a much more bigger role now. That is why its worrying to see NH everywhere in the movie right now. 

no he didn't have a much bigger role, if anything he had a bigger role in road to ninja dude, or did you miss the boatload of kishimoto video interviews talking about how he was in charge of every aspect of the movie and showing sketchs, discussing plot points and everything you can think of? good grief....


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:10 AM

So this is my problem too. Kishimoto said that apparently, but all this movie hype leads me to think differently. I'll repost what I put in the chapter thread:
 
After watching the movie trailer and reading some of the buzz about it, I have a feeling next week's chapter isn't going to end as conclusively in the shipping department as we would like. 
 
It wouldn't make any sense at all to wrap every detail up in the manga — Naruto is with Sakura and Hinata is out in the cold — only for them to continue with movies going in another direction.
 
I just don't think we're going to get pictures of Naruto and Sakura with babies, things like that. I think it's going to be more loose and open-ended, so the possibility of Naruto/Hinata is still out there. After all, the Hinata fans make up a huge portion of the fan base. And the shipping suspense is the only tension left. If Kishimoto wraps up the shipping tension decisively in the manga, then it'll be really hard to raise interest for a movie.
 
Don't get me wrong — I think there will be a big, satisfying NS moment in the last chapter of Shippuden. However, I think with all the hype for the movie and "New Era Project" going on in conjunction with the last chapter, Kishimoto's not going to end things absolutely conclusively pairing-wise. Kishimoto is, above everything else, a master at multiple interpretations.
 
Rampant speculation: It may be that Naruto and Sakura fianlly make a plan to go on a date, but that it will have to be some time much later, when everyone has returned home and all the detail work is done. And it may be that Hinata comes to some decision about herself and her clan, deciding that she will lead them the way Naruto would, all the while still thinking that some day, when all the work is done, she will walk beside Naruto.
 
So NS still is the top pairing, but there is still room for the future of NH.... Which is then explored and exploited in movies or whatever the New Era Project turns out to be.


EXACTLY! it wouldn't make any sense at all so that's why I'm not even betting on it happening and considering he has a part In this movie he's most likely not gonna give us anything. I could see closure for SS and hopes of setting up the NSH formation for the movie. I do wonder what this New Era Project is gonna be like. I definitely don't feel like NH fans should be screaming canon though. You'd think they learned their lesson by now.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:11 AM

Oh god Naruto is going to take the school days route  :twitch:

*sigh* I'm done replying to you, its obvious either you don't read my replies or ignore them or think I'm an idiot when I was freaking here on the threads seeing every detail of road to ninja before and after its release,unlike you who wasn't and knows next to nothing, good grief......


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:13 AM

You know what I understand SP perfectly. They hardly actually care for Hinata, they saw all the money in her and that is essentially why she is promoted in the way she is. Its all about money. 

 

They simply just want to make money in the end. Naruhina and Hinata are the money makers, they are just much more popular then Sakura and Narusaku. 

 

but narusaku's movie RTN is the highest grossing Naruto movie ever i don't understand sp really :ermm:


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:14 AM

I don't even know why people are bothering this, the advertisements isn't the source of discouragement, the composer was more discouraging with his "hints" that he gave ya'll a while back.

we had freaking worse covers than that that were supporting ns dude, so excuse me if I'm not overeacting over a freaking cover.....


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:15 AM

*sigh* I'm done replying to you, its obvious either you don't read my replies or ignore them or think I'm an idiot when I was freaking here on the threads seeing every detail of road to ninja before and after its release,unlike you who wasn't and knows next to nothing, good grief......

Then don't reply, i'm not asking you to. I was joking when l was talking about the school dies. I wasn't here when RTN was coming out, so i wouldn't know anything.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:15 AM

Oh, please, Kishi, don't let the New Era Project be direct continuation of the movie. If it's Naruto's son, I don't care, but PLEASE let Naruto finally end. Having waited for years for this series to end only for it to be continued again?! I can't take a another shipping war.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:16 AM

Pairing-wise, there's one thing that's worrisome. The unrealistic focus of Hinata's feelings and all these contrived plot points literally only done so Hinata could have screen time with Naruto. The scarf, the flashback, the exaggerated sympathy to Hinata's love ... all of it just feels too overdone to totally ignore. For what reason is Hinata's love for Naruto getting so much focus? It could be closure and love triangle drama ... but a part of me's worried it isn't.  Would Kishi really care about romance drama that much he devotes a whole movie of a Naruto/Hinata/Sakura love triangle for no reason? This could be one way to make NH canon. The focus could be a way to make it the end couple.

 

But even as I say that I just can't see it happening. If NaruHina was supposed to be canon, then why didn't Kishimoto develop Naruto's feelings earlier? Why did Sakura doubt her feelings and happiness with Sasuke so many times while developing with Naruto? More importantly, why would Kishi have this done in a movie? This is just bad, rushed writing for NH. I don't understand how NHers can even enjoy this when it's out of complete left-field.

 

I'm not saying NH will be canon, the possibility's just there. And we still don't know the whole plot of the movie and the manga isn't over it. We shouldn't give up so easily. This whole thing just makes me uncomfortable. I'm not finding one good reason yet why this movie is set up the way it is.

 

I know everything in the manga supports NS. It has foreshadowing, parallels, development, themes while NH has nothing and makes Naruto severely OCC if ever happened. I'm just in-between what I know logically and how much faith I should have in Kishimoto's writing.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:18 AM

Then don't reply, i'm not asking you to. I was joking when l was talking about the school dies. I wasn't here when RTN was coming out, so i wouldn't know anything.

well then you could at least take my word for it instead of ignoring everything I say, I've had it, do I have to post every single big thing we got for road to ninja to prove a point to you people? if so I will  :mad:


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:18 AM

Ok so. I feel like I need to ask this. Let's say that NH happens, which, in this thread/topic, is looking realistic... Let's say NH happens, and let's say Sasuke is indeed a wanderer, do you believe Sakura is officially single and done? Like that is her new found self. No need for a lover, she's completely comfortable as is? This is the second best option in my opinion. I would actually be equally happy for Sakura if she went with complete independence as I would if she ended up with Naruto. (the reason why ns wins over that option is because they are perfect for one another).

Do not get me wrong the 2nd to worst thing they could do here is have NH happen... But the number 1 worst thing they could do here is make SS AND NH happen (I'll spit on every naruto book I see).

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:20 AM

I'm gonna guess that Hinata's role will be like MK's in RtN. She will be featured often, but still not exactly a main character like NS were. Sakura's role is kept in the dark, even though there's evidence to prove she's more relevant than SP is trying to let on. And concerning Naruto, he's always the center of everything, yet the spreadsheet quotes only talked about Hinata's feelings, so it seems like only Hinata's plot point is being shown, even though there are several others that need to be. ( Naruto's, the main villain, ect.)


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:21 AM

 

For me , Naruto will confirm Hinata is just in friend-zone (he will always care about her like he did to all his friends)  so he will save his sister  :zaru:

In Naruto Shippuden 3 : Naruto went to save Kakashi (his senesi) that doesn't mean he in love with him lol

 

But when Naruto went to save Sakura in RTN and in the end of the movie he asked her for a date  :pimp:

 

yeah as you said thats just naruto's nindo nothing will be canon untill we see naruto himself showing love for hinata-chan :pimp:

i mean in all the past movies naruto saved all kind of girls so yeah but its still worries me :ermm:


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:22 AM

Bah.

We all know she'll get with Sai and his sexy abs if that happens.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:22 AM

my translation on that text

 

It's still an unfulfilled love/desire. Her secret feelings' whereabouts are...

The Winter festival is approaching in Konoha village. Naruto passes good time in the Ramen shop "Ichiraku" with his friends who have grown together. Meanwhile, Hinata's feelings put into a scarf knitted secretly did haven't still get through (him). Hinata loathes herself for doing nothing but watch over the whole time. Then all of a sudden, a mysterious man appears. But Naruto came to help in the nick of time, he disappered by leaving with strange words "You guys are destined to die. First Hinata, I will pick up you without fail."
"Destined to die" ? Why Hinata is being targeted? At that moment, a meteorite with an intense light pierced the night sky.....

 

So the scarf represents a childhood screw up from Hinata? Naruto is wearing a red Scart in the flashback, so maybe Naruto asked Hinata to play with her or something similar but was accused of bullying her by her Hyuuga guards and when they asked her she being the meek child she is doesn't back Naruto up, and Naruto is beaten up and his Scarf ruined? Or something similar, I think the scarf represents her guilt about something that happened to them as children, something she never apoligised for. So potentially nothing to do with romantic feelings at all.

 

Ofcourse any history between the two as children is going against the Manga itself, Naruto doesn't think much of her when she is first introduced, infact his first thoughts about her was the wierd girl who looks away from him when he looks at her. That doesn't sound like something he'd think if they'd had any history.

 

So who else feels like the entire Kaguya as a final boss thing and the introduction of the second brother in history was all added so Kishi could release this movie? That Madara was originally planned as the final boss but because RtN was so successful or some other reason, Kishi changed his story to fit in these new elements that make the movie boss relevent? I know I'm not the only one who thought Kaguya as the final boss made no sense, and questioned multiple times why the second brother was wiped from history completely, not even exisiting in the history books of his decendants, yet was just as important as the Sage in defeating their mother.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:25 AM

sigh...why can't we get a flashback with little Naruto and little Sakura? So we can see when he started crushing on her...is that too much to ask!??

 

(plz don't let Hinata be the reason Naruto likes Sakura......)


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:26 AM

Ok so. I feel like I need to ask this. Let's say that NH happens, which, in this thread/topic, is looking realistic... Let's say NH happens, and let's say Sasuke is indeed a wanderer, do you believe Sakura is officially single and done? Like that is her new found self. No need for a lover, she's completely comfortable as is? This is the second best option in my opinion. I would actually be equally happy for Sakura if she went with complete independence as I would if she ended up with Naruto. (the reason why ns wins over that option is because they are perfect for one another).

Do not get me wrong the 2nd to worst thing they could do here is have NH happen... But the number 1 worst thing they could do here is make SS AND NH happen (I'll spit on every naruto book I see).

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:29 AM

You know why is it that Naruto shows how much he loves Sakura, to the point where all he wants is for her to be happy, but Hinata only thinks of her love for him, not his happiness. It's almost as if Hinata has no clue that Naruto loves Sakura when he clearly makes it apparent when they're together. So one can say that Hinata doesn't really love Naruto, especially if she is aware of his feelings for Sakura. If she's not aware then what the hell Hinata, I thought you knew everything about Naruto.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:30 AM

well then you could at least take my word for it instead of ignoring everything I say, I've had it, do I have to post every single big thing we got for road to ninja to prove a point to you people? if so I will  :mad:

I wasn't ignoring anything. I was on different websites and by the time i come back there is already 2 new pages. Anyhow, best of luck to NS in this movie. The only problem with this movie is that its really Hyuuga based (meaning a lot Hinata)   -_-


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 03:30 AM

Bah.

We all know she'll get with Sai and his sexy abs if that happens.

 

still better than nh

 

 

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