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[No WhereMan]

You think the Waterfall of Truth might bring out the feeling for Jiraya or maybe his father. Remember after he found out who his father was he hit him. Maybe guilt that he wasn't there for Jiraya. I don't know maybe not well everyone was talking about how the Wallerfall of Truth exposes his feelings. Looks like everyone expressed Sakura enough.

That's funny I still remember that part. And I loved it because honestly, I would have done the same thing. ^^

[Nee-sama]

I think the evil Naruto is bringing up subconscious thoughts, more than exposing feelings that Naruto tries to hide. If Sakura is mentioned at all, it'll probably be an expression of anger or hurt at her attempt to abandon her feelings for Sasuke, confess to Naruto, then try to kill Sasuke on her own.

[ShippudenGirl]

I think the evil Naruto is bringing up subconscious thoughts, more than exposing feelings that Naruto tries to hide. If Sakura is mentioned at all, it'll probably be an expression of anger or hurt at her attempt to abandon her feelings for Sasuke, confess to Naruto, then try to kill Sasuke on her own.

That's kinda what I meant before, but I'm more then positive if anything, that Sasuke will be brought up since Naruto waste three or so years of his life trying to bring him back.

Edited by ShippudenGirl, 23 April 2010 - 03:18 PM.

[Nee-sama]

Yeah, you're probably right. I was thinking the same thing.

[chouzu_tao]

Don't know if someone's said this already, but the evil naruto kind of has Bee's eyes. What, what?! Could it be Bee-sama?

Plus am I the only one who thinks that e. Naruto won't even talk about the confessions, and that he'll mostly talk about freeing the world of hate, Sasuke, and controlling the Kyubi?

Plus, I think this exercise to overcome self-doubt is to have his own chakra not be over taken by the Kyubi's, because that's part of completing 'that jutsu.' Perhaps if he has more confidence and is actually more sure of this, he'll gain Kyubi's respect, like maybe Bee did of the Hachibi.

[Insurrection]

Doesn't Bee wear glasses? Plus the evil Naruto isn't rapping so I'm going with the manifestation thing.

I think it's going to be all of the events that are going through Naruto's head. A general omission of everything. This is only step one, confront your darkness so that you can become pure, then we proceed to step 2.

Unless he fails in which case Bee trains him to be stronger to face the darkness within himself again.

Edited by Insurrection, 23 April 2010 - 05:26 PM.

[Derock]

From looking up closely, I believe Evil Naruto has Kyuubi eyes. But I'm not sure due to the shadows covering the eyes.

[Dreamer]

I think it would be cool if evil Naruto turns into the people he had problems with in the past much like Ichigo fighting his former opponents to help strengthen and get his heart and mind back to beat his inner hollow.

[Strangelove]

Yeah, hopefully next chapter we get a real revelation as to what the hell is going on here...I think that this evil Naruto won't be the only one, i think that other sides of his personality will also appear. Not necessarily evil, but other views of his life. I think that hopefully he might find the answer for world peace in that waterfall after he completes the training...or find a clue.

Edited by Strangelove, 23 April 2010 - 09:40 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Well we still have two weeks to guess what is evil Naruto I highly believe it's all part of the waterfall of truth as some kind of test that Naruto has to overcome in order to start controlling the Kyuubi.

[Eric]

ok i'm going a little off topic for a little , Woot i love that i started all the godzilla fighting naruto thing

now on topic, Well from what you have said, i can't wait for the next Chp of Naruto to come out, i want to know about all the stuff "Evil" Naruto is going to said to "Real" Naruto and maybe a fight between the two you know like how Ichigo did when he was fight is hollow self, and maybe this "Evil" Naruto is the Naruto that will be if he was like Gaara was before he meet Naruto.

Edited by Eric, 24 April 2010 - 12:58 AM.

[tricksie]

You think the Waterfall of Truth might bring out the feeling for Jiraya or maybe his father. Remember after he found out who his father was he hit him. Maybe guilt that he wasn't there for Jiraya.

Interesting to think about. He definitely could have some curveball issues that come out. We've hit on the big stuff he could delve into - Sakura, Sasuke, the village - but if you were to tell me that Evil Naruto was going to pop up in the manga, the LAST thing I would say he'd talk about was not signing autographs at the ramen stand.

I would think he'd be more irritated at the times he's hd to empty out his gamabunta wallet for noodles before being disgruntled about autographs. So yeah, dokueki, I think we can throw Minato and Jiraiya in there as well. He may show some irritation at Tsunade for sending Jiraiya out to his death. And then he really may come up with some left-field stuff.

...maybe this "Evil" Naruto is the Naruto that will be if he was like Gaara was before he meet Naruto.

Oooo, another good point. What if Evil Naruto is less like a revenge-driven Sasuke and more like the completely unhinged Gaara. If it really is the Kyuubi's chakra, then that fox is going to manipulate the hell out of Naruto to try to get out (which is just rampant speculation on my part). Not just have a task list to stick it to everyone who wronged him. And Bijuu Gaara was a scary dude!

But, I don't know if Evil Naruto is a version driven from himself, or one that is derived from the mal chakra of the kyuubi. Would it affect everyone the same? It must, since it's widely known as the "Waterfall of Truth." If it only affected the jinchurrikis, then it would probably be call the "Beautiful Waterfall that Makes a Few People Freak Out."

Anyway, this is a much better point to take a break on than the last one. If I remember correctly, it was Sasuke-centric, and not much food for thought. But this one will get a lot of speculation mileage out of it!

[ShippudenGirl]

I wonder how/if Yami-Naruto will affect the story of the Manga. I guarentee this will change Naruto; maybe even in a good way.

[harry4e]

As I said before I think this alter ego Naruto is the one that drives Naruto when he goes Kyuubified, that's why he's so mindless when he attack, neither Naruto or Kyuubi are the primal but if it's driven by Narutp's anger then it could explain that this alter ego is the one in charge.

Interesting theories about Godzilla vs Naruto, i'd put my money on Naruto if he ever got full control of the Kyuubi, a Kyubbi/Sage powered Rasen-Shurikan could destroy even at a sub attomic level maybe. But don't quote me on that as my knowledge of Godzilla only reaches as far as the godawful US remake.

I hope Kishi gives this training as much time and dedication as he gave Sage training, and every Sasuke ark we've had in Shippuden, it's a vital part of his development, if not possably the most important training he's had to date, we could be seeing a truelly disturbing side of Naruto that we've never seen before, it will hopefully show those who don't beleive that Naruto's demons are just as great as Sasuke's and what he fights to suppress everyday.

It's a clilche storyline, used in RPG's and a Manga's all the time, but it's something that's neccesery in the Manga, we could see what resentment he felt for Sakura everytime he was rejected and she chased after Sasuke, His anger at the villagers for mistreating him, Even his hatred towards Sasuke,

Well i've got my fingers crossed we'll see some pretty damning things, and end of the day once he overcomes it all, we'll respect him all the more.

[Golden_Daylight]

I don't know if anyone else has brought this up or not (or I'm just referencing things that have no relevance and should be forgotten), but was anyone else reminded of chapter 259? When Naruto was fighting with all of his guilt/general past from Itachi's genjutsu?

Anyways, I thought it was overall a pretty interesting chapter. Despite the clichéd "Fight against yourself" thing, I have to say, I'm really looking forward to seeing how this all turns out. I think Naruto has been penting up all the new things that have happened to him, and I think this will be an interesting way to see "the truth". <-- Now THAT'S a cliché.


(Also, I'm sorry if I just ended up repeating a whole bunch of what other people have said. I couldn't remember everything from the past 10 pages... >.< )

[ShippudenGirl]

... And I'm more then anxious to see Naruto's disturbing side >P hehe...

[No WhereMan]

... And I'm more then anxious to see Naruto's disturbing side >P hehe...

Disturbing or not, you can still bribe him with Ramen. ^^

[ShippudenGirl]

Hehe >P maybe... But... What if he doesn't like Ramon?! Pure evil! :0 *dies of shock*

[No WhereMan]

Hehe >P maybe... But... What if he doesn't like Ramon?! Pure evil! :0 *dies of shock*

If he doesn't like Ramen* he's clearly a fake.

[Dreamer]

I hope Kishi gives this training as much time and dedication as he gave Sage training, and every Sasuke ark we've had in Shippuden, it's a vital part of his development, if not possably the most important training he's had to date, we could be seeing a truelly disturbing side of Naruto that we've never seen before, it will hopefully show those who don't beleive that Naruto's demons are just as great as Sasuke's and what he fights to suppress everyday.

Shoot man Kishi started out with Bee beating a giant squid and butting fists with the islands King Kong as a tamed friend/pet, I can already tell that the first step is just the kick-off to the epic field goal of the end of this new training arc, so yeah I think this will be better than the sage training.

We also got the opportunity to see our beloved Might Gai potentially finishing up with his fight with Kisame.

Hehe >P maybe... But... What if he doesn't like Ramon?! Pure evil! :0 *dies of shock*

Shippu-chan, everybody likes Japan's finest Ramon . If not indeed that would be pure evil (evil I tell ya ) or like No Where-Kun said, "a fake".

Edited by Uzumakikage, 24 April 2010 - 04:13 AM.