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#181 ShippudenGirl

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Posted 29 April 2010 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (Uzumakikage @ Apr 29 2010, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@pinkheartsyellowstars, Here's a simple fact: "how can you have a pairing if it's only one sided?" wink.gif NS FTW! narusakuct7.gif


Took the words right out of my mouth Uzumaki-kun >P

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 03:07 AM

QUOTE (Uzumakikage @ Apr 29 2010, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@pinkheartsyellowstars, Here's a simple fact: "how can you have a pairing if it's only one sided?" wink.gif NS FTW! narusakuct7.gif

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but if talking to being ROMANTIC, I think there are no blurred lines for NS..smile.gif

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 30 April 2010 - 03:12 AM.


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Posted 30 April 2010 - 06:23 AM

I'm sure many others agree, but I think that it was obvious NS would happen ever since the 2nd arc of shippuden. Naruto loved Sakura, and then 2 new characters come along and point out that she has obvious romanctic feelings for him too. Of course as time went on it became more and more obvious.

It has not happened yet, but its still the most obvious pairing. I mean, if and when it happens, no one should be that shocked.

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 06:33 AM

I regret disagreeing. It was obvious from chapter 3.

1 - Girl appears. Main character states he likes her a lot.

2 - Girl gets abruptly angry, shouts at the main character, and punches him when he does something stupid.

3 - A while later, main character realizes why he likes her. It is hinted both characters are equal personality-wise.

4 - Girl ponders over her behaviour and decides trying treating better main character henceforth.

I have been watching anime since early eighties and all of it looked like a classic shonen manga romantic setup.

Of course, I might be wrong.

But my predictions about Narut/Sakura/Sasuke love triangle were fulfilled. I thought her relationship with Sasuke would go nowhere as she started feeling closer to main character.". And that was exactly what happened. Since the earlier plot arcs.

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 06:37 AM

Is Sakura's confession to Naruto a lie? I hope not....

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Posted 30 April 2010 - 07:15 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Apr 11 2010, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are plenty of shonen, even action shonen stories, that have strong romantic plotlines, the main difference between more action orientated shoujo and action orientated shonen that have romance in them is that in shoujo the is a fair amount of kissing- even in younger shoujo manga, and in older shoujo manga (like Yuu Watase's) lovemaking scenes aren't unusual.

In shonen while there's often plenty of female nudity, panty shots, males peeping on females at hot springs, male characters "accidentally" grabbing a female characters breast, romantic scenes with kisses are rare in shonen. But often in both shoujo and shonen manga a final chapter epilogue will leap forward in time and show the romantic pair(s) married and parents, most in both genres will at least hint a marriage is certain eventually.

There are a few exceptions, of course, but those are rare. In shoujo it's almost always stories where the girl is more passive/submissive/worshiping of the main boy where ending is hazier or the few unhappy endings. Shonen has even fewer of the unhappy endings of the romantic plotline than shoujo, but again it's almost always the girl who is more submissive and hero worshiping of the main male character that gets the unhappy ending.

Unless Kishimoto kills one or both of them (highly unlikely, I'll add, that he'll kill either), I'm certain Kishimoto will have them together at end- most likely as parents of a couple of kids. smile.gif


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Posted 30 April 2010 - 10:08 AM

QUOTE (Evil Potato @ Apr 30 2010, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It has not happened yet, but its still the most obvious pairing. I mean, if and when it happens, no one should be that shocked.


Well, we won't be shocked, but I'd be bouncing off the walls >P I mean, we'd literally be proving thouands if not hundreds of thousands of people from other pairings wrong. Hm. Of course that's not the only reason; I love this pairing and have been trying to prove it since... The original? Obviously it should happen. When it does...

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Edited by ShippudenGirl, 30 April 2010 - 10:09 AM.


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Posted 02 May 2010 - 08:19 AM

Once they both admit their feelings for each other I'm definitely going to go nuts and then run to my friend's house and yell at him telling him, I told you so! tongue.gif

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Posted 03 May 2010 - 03:16 PM

Guys, I have conducted many poll surveys in other forums. happy.gif Consequently, those poll surveys are based on pairing related issues.
The most recent topic is this:
Pairing that would be beneficial to TEAM 7
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The choices are mainly the big 3.(NS,NH and SS) Take note I included NH, because I know NH would complain why their respective pairing is not included. To avoid some kitten, I had to include it.

NH, got the least, followed by NS and SS got a little higher than NS. SS reasoned that team 7 dynamics, would be in a SS relationship, plus the fact Naruto supported it. I can't refute any of this, because I let their reasons would be more stricken out.
So in my own view, so the recent chapters, were' Naruto declared that he will fight Sasuke, gave inspirational speech etc.. are all team 7 dynamics(naturally) and SS plus Naruto on the side? rolleyes.gif and not to mentioned it only shows, SS understands team 7 the most.

So, what's your view guys? TEAM 7 dyanmics=SS and Naruto

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 03 May 2010 - 03:24 PM.


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Posted 03 May 2010 - 03:49 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ May 3 2010, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys, I have conducted many poll surveys in other forums. happy.gif Consequently, those poll surveys are based on pairing related issues.
The most recent topic is this:
Pairing that would be beneficial to TEAM 7
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The choices are mainly the big 3.(NS,NH and SS) Take note I included NH, because I know NH would complain why their respective pairing is not included. To avoid some kitten, I had to include it.

NH, got the least, followed by NS and SS got a little higher than NS. SS reasoned that team 7 dynamics, would be in a SS relationship, plus the fact Naruto supported it. I can't refute any of this, because I let their reasons would be more stricken out.
So in my own view, so the recent chapters, were' Naruto declared that he will fight Sasuke, gave inspirational speech etc.. are all team 7 dynamics(naturally) and SS plus Naruto on the side? rolleyes.gif and not to mentioned it only shows, SS understands team 7 the most.

So, what's your view guys? TEAM 7 dyanmics=SS and Naruto


Not bad on the poll but I have to disagree with the logic that Naruto supports S/S because I consider it to be BS. Naruto only wants what's best for Sakura he gives a lot of priority for her happiness he only wants her to see her happy and he believes Sakura will be happy with Sasuke, according to him he believes that she still loves Sasuke. But by now I think he must have the idea that Sakura has moved on from him and has chosen him a long time ago (I believe since he made her the POL back at part 1)

But the main point is I believe the one who gets to chose who wants to love who is Sakura. It's up to her to decided who's the one she wants and she has already chosen (she made up her mind completely at 458 when Sai told her that Naruto loves her and we saw this with her confession). Sakura chose Naruto the problem is that Naruto won't do nothing at all until the whole Sasuke thing is solve for good. sleep.gif
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Posted 03 May 2010 - 04:33 PM

Polls are the easiest thing in the world to manipulate. I don't really trust them. I'm not trying to bash but online polls are easier to manipulate. You could just have people trying to mess with you.

The view of having SS back to make Team 7 bennificial doesn't really have its merrits if you think about it. It would be really, really awkward for the readers and characters if things went back to the way they were. Which is why the manga has taken the path it has, you can't go back to the mindset of what things were like. Too many scars have been made and bonds broken and formed.

Edited by Insurrection, 03 May 2010 - 04:37 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2010 - 10:55 AM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ May 4 2010, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys, I have conducted many poll surveys in other forums. happy.gif Consequently, those poll surveys are based on pairing related issues.
The most recent topic is this:
Pairing that would be beneficial to TEAM 7
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The choices are mainly the big 3.(NS,NH and SS) Take note I included NH, because I know NH would complain why their respective pairing is not included. To avoid some kitten, I had to include it.

NH, got the least, followed by NS and SS got a little higher than NS. SS reasoned that team 7 dynamics, would be in a SS relationship, plus the fact Naruto supported it. I can't refute any of this, because I let their reasons would be more stricken out.
So in my own view, so the recent chapters, were' Naruto declared that he will fight Sasuke, gave inspirational speech etc.. are all team 7 dynamics(naturally) and SS plus Naruto on the side? rolleyes.gif and not to mentioned it only shows, SS understands team 7 the most.

So, what's your view guys? TEAM 7 dyanmics=SS and Naruto


I saw that thread and you were pretending.... dry.gif

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE (sakutonaru @ May 4 2010, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I saw that thread and you were pretending.... dry.gif


Sorry I don't know what your are talking about. laugh.gif (that's for the LULZ) cool.gif

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I think those polls really did speak for how fans viewed the Question/Topic What pairing that is beneficial for Team 7? and SS did mind the scenario that if Naruto would do anyhting for Sakura, let her go, bring Sakura and Sasuke together= Team 7 happiness and all that crap. rolleyes.gif

I was kinda not expecting this kinda of reasoning they did. I am expecting they would comply/refute like Sasuke is being controlled with Madara or Sasuke Smirked or the old fashioned Sasuke would never hurt Sakura. laugh.gif So I was a bit disappointed, labeling us in denials, during Sakura's Confession to Naruto, that she lied etc, and the guilt, pity,and pain.

So guys I kinda conclude that, with SS's statements, My confidence in NS boost. happy.gif because they attempt to take the advantage of the situation where Naruto, aspire to bring/redeem Sasuke and team 7 will be happy together and SS is canon etc. dry.gif

So what do you think?

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ May 4 2010, 07:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry I don't know what your are talking about. laugh.gif (that's for the LULZ) cool.gif

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I think those polls really did speak for how fans viewed the Question/Topic What pairing that is beneficial for Team 7? and SS did mind the scenario that if Naruto would do anyhting for Sakura, let her go, bring Sakura and Sasuke together= Team 7 happiness and all that crap. rolleyes.gif

I was kinda not expecting this kinda of reasoning they did. I am expecting they would comply/refute like Sasuke is being controlled with Madara or Sasuke Smirked or the old fashioned Sasuke would never hurt Sakura. laugh.gif So I was a bit disappointed, labeling us in denials, during Sakura's Confession to Naruto, that she lied etc, and the guilt, pity,and pain.

So guys I kinda conclude that, with SS's statements, My confidence in NS boost. happy.gif because they attempt to take the advantage of the situation where Naruto, aspire to bring/redeem Sasuke and team 7 will be happy together and SS is canon etc. dry.gif

So what do you think?


Like I said before Naruto only wants Sakura to be happy and he believes she will be happy with Sasuke (thinking that she still loves him today although after 469 and on I don't think so). Maybe having Sakura being together with Sasuke so she can be happy with him may be what Naruto wants BUT that's NOT what Sakura wants. He can say whatever he likes but the one who gets to decided is Sakura herself and she has already made her decision who's the person she loves and wants to be with. Sakura knows how selfless Naruto is and she will obviously think that he wants her to be with Sasuke but she will have to convince him that he's the one she wants (this is Naruto we're talking about words won't affect him only action a kiss is the only thing that can wake him up for good). heheelq7.png
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Posted 04 May 2010 - 04:41 PM

I stand by my belief that survery polls are crap. biggrin.gif

Edited by Insurrection, 04 May 2010 - 04:42 PM.


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Posted 05 May 2010 - 06:49 AM

didn't karen say sakura loves sasuke?

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 12:59 PM

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didn't karen say sakura loves sasuke?


Haven't you just written that same line in other thread?

Regardless, I am copying/pasting my own reply in that thread:

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No, she said -after hearing Sakura uttering "I want joining you. I want being with you", which was an obvious lie-: "She must love him. But...".

The phrasing and that "but" are very important. Karin is judging the situation according Sakura's words (notice again she said: "she MUST". She didn't say: "She does"). BUT she feels something is amiss. And it was, since Sakura was lying about wanting joining him and being with him.

Or perhaps I am being a shipping fanboy and getting obsessed over one line of speech.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (SS3 Goku @ May 5 2010, 01:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
didn't karen say sakura loves sasuke?


She wasn't using her chakra sensing ability going only by word of mouth, since she was about to dye and had little strength left.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 08:47 PM

Hey, guys. I've yet to post in this spiffy new thread.

Anyways, I came to ask your thoughts about a certain issue. Some say that the fact that Naruto and Sakura's relationship after the whole recent Sasuke ordeal went back to humor means it's over. Your thoughts on this?

Personally, I don't really see it. To me, it just looks like they're resilient and can bounce back and not let things ruin their friendship. And that now isn't really the time to be anything but their old selves.

Your input is appreciated.

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Posted 05 May 2010 - 08:53 PM

actually quite the opposite. the trick is to understand Shonen tropes, which include humor between a romantic pairing which is used to defuse or distract a tense situation such as the feeding scene or the KN4 incedent after naruto woke up.

the fact is their relationship has always used humor as a plot point and its incorrect to say theyve went back to humor when they always did have it.
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