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[Serenity Namikaze]

Then for naru/saku to prevail she will have to have stronger feelings for naruto than the old sasuke, which with the way development goes could be the case. From a logical stand point sasusaku is bad for character development overall because it sends characters backwards instead of forewards where as narusaku does the opposite so you shouldnt be so worried itll all work out

Agreed,

The point is to always look a head, not the other way around.

[deafdrum]

To those of you who are still concerned about Sakura's feelings and SS in general: putting aside what Sakura's hesitation means in regard to her own feelings, allow me to shed light on what has always been and what is still the elephant in the room.

Sasuke has shown no romantic interest whatsoever in Sakura.

"Pairing," as the term suggests, involves two people. The feelings of one person in a one-sided love has little merit in terms of a pairing, especially if the other person not only fails to reciprocate those feelings, but takes steps directly against that end.

Exhibit A: Sasuke has tried to kill Sakura 3 times. The third time, the scratch on Naruto's face gives us tangible evidence that Sasuke's hand would not have hesitated as Sakura's did.

Now, from what I've seen in my limited sample of Shounen, a one-sided love by itself will persist throughout the manga, even if it leads nowhere. However, a one-sided love that has a two-sided alternative (and by that I mean equal alternative, not a "second choice" alternative) tends to break down in favor of said alternative.

Already, we've seen the standards of SS shippers drop as the manga has progressed. It has gone from "maybe Sasuke will return her feelings" to "maybe she still has those feelings." The first goal is no longer even in contention because at this point, it seems so far-fetched. On the flip side, NS has remained fairly solid in terms of what still needs to happen, and the pairing has developed on both sides over time.

[narukunsakuchan]

If naru/saku were to happen she would just need resolve and be able to come to peace with her feelings first. Chapter 483-484 were probably the first step to doing that. Remember she remembered sasuke as how he was when he was younger not the psychopath he is now. I personally believe her feelings for him have been disappearing since the start of part 2 but she still views him as a person important to her, just in the way that sasuke is important to naruto. Because givin the same situation i don't believe naruto woulda killed sasuke either. Where as there is the vise versa hints of naru/saku are being thrown all over the place and they are becoming closer.

On a side note to that, you can tell kakashi din't want sasuke killed either when sakura was going to attack sasuke he wanted her to stop so does that mean kakashi is in love with sasuke? Of course not it just means that sasuke is an important part of Team 7 just as its been shown multiple times.

[Serenity Namikaze]

im human as well with doughts:/ jest how sakura proved she is not a monster by jest killing sasuke

It OK, I have my doubt too, but I'm more confident about the positive effect of that encounter.

Always look at the bottle half full than half empty, that my personal statement about life

[narukunsakuchan]

thats a good one at that



mmmmy only conern really is that dose sakura trully love naruto?

I believe she does, so it may be brought up in the next few chapters. If you look at chap 469 during her confession you can tell by facial expression that when she said i love you she meant it by looking away and blushing her face is sincere. However it feels like shes lying bc immediately afterwards it she says she care about sasuke at all any more. So to answer your question yes she does love naruto.

[Xabsol]

OMFG.

[Serenity Namikaze]

thats a good one at that

mmmmy only conern really is that dose sakura trully love naruto?

Well, I always have my doubt when she said to Naruto that she didn't love Sasuke and I guess I was right. However, the fact that she stubbornly refuse to tell Naruto about wanting to kill Sasuke herself prove that she care for him a lot ( the reverse situation of the PoaLT). Seriously, even if ( and the if is the key word) Sakura doesn't love Naruto now, do you think that she'll use the knowledge of him loving her and tell him that she love him? That would be really cruel and I don't think that Sakura is like that.

Edited by silverserenity, 25 February 2010 - 05:23 PM.

[Insurrection]

You're right I have always trusted Sleepyfans the translation is more coherent like you said. Mangastream seems more S/S biased I just hated when they do that, they do whatever it takes to make the manga look like it's taking the N/H and S/S path when we all know that's not the case.

Maybe they just like to build drama? I'm not trying to sound mean here but lately Grave, you seem to accuse every translator as an opposing shipper. And after the Sasuke thing in this chapter. We're the ones who AREN'T paranoid.

To those of you who are still concerned about Sakura's feelings and SS in general: putting aside what Sakura's hesitation means in regard to her own feelings, allow me to shed light on what has always been and what is still the elephant in the room.

Sasuke has shown no romantic interest whatsoever in Sakura.

"Pairing," as the term suggests, involves two people. The feelings of one person in a one-sided love has little merit in terms of a pairing, especially if the other person not only fails to reciprocate those feelings, but takes steps directly against that end.

Exhibit A: Sasuke has tried to kill Sakura 3 times. The third time, the scratch on Naruto's face gives us tangible evidence that Sasuke's hand would not have hesitated as Sakura's did.

Now, from what I've seen in my limited sample of Shounen, a one-sided love by itself will persist throughout the manga, even if it leads nowhere. However, a one-sided love that has a two-sided alternative (and by that I mean equal alternative, not a "second choice" alternative) tends to break down in favor of said alternative.

Already, we've seen the standards of SS shippers drop as the manga has progressed. It has gone from "maybe Sasuke will return her feelings" to "maybe she still has those feelings." The first goal is no longer even in contention because at this point, it seems so far-fetched. On the flip side, NS has remained fairly solid in terms of what still needs to happen, and the pairing has developed on both sides over time.

THANK YOU NEW BEST FRIEND!

Anyone remember when we were talking about that poll of what SasuSaku fans loved about their pairing? Something about the moments that Sasuke shows kindness towards Sakura, that ain't there anymore folks! Two chapters destroyed that reasoning.

OMFG.

Picture equals LAWLS.

Edited by Insurrection, 25 February 2010 - 05:26 PM.

[narukunsakuchan]

Well, I always have my doubt when she said to Naruto that she didn't love Sasuke and I guess I was right. However, the fact that she stubbornly refuse to tell Naruto about wanting to kill Sasuke herself prove that she care for him a lot ( the reverse situation of the PoaLT). Seriously, even if ( and the if is the key word) Sakura doesn't love Naruto now, do you think that she'll use the knowledge of him loving her and tell him that she love him? That would be really cruel and I don't think that Sakura is like that.

agree 100% and what is the point to her even saying i love you if she thought it would fail anyways and he still wanted to go after sasuke? With every passing chapter her feelings just grow for him more and more.

anyone else notice that within the last 34 chaps we have had more naru/saku physical contact than the rest of the manga put together?

[firegirl]

agree 100% and what is the point to her even saying i love you if she thought it would fail anyways and he still wanted to go after sasuke? With every passing chapter her feelings just grow for him more and more.

anyone else notice that within the last 34 chaps we have had more naru/saku physical contact than the rest of the manga put together?

YES god people should see that dammit its becoming MORE obvious in my opionon that the stubborn mules love eachother

[hergirlunknown]

My apologies for jumping right into a debate on the latest chapter without introduction, but I figure my lurking on this community was due for an end. Anyways, here's my two cents on Naruto Chapter 484.

As much as we would like Sakura to pick a side, the fact is she is described as one of the most human characters by Kishimoto and hence prone to indecision. Having been a teenager and in a similar predicament, I can attest that it is possible to hold romantic feelings towards two people at the same time. However, there are many different kinds and levels of love in this world and it doesn't make it any easier to pick when your established perceptions of your world shatter to pieces. Frankly, the entirety of Team 7 is one big mental mess right now. Everyone wants to save Sasuke, but the individual they're trying to rescue from darkness is now just a memory as we've seen in flashbacks. Kishimoto has spent the past three chapters trying to hammer into our minds the pre-shippuden Sasuke has been consumed and distorted into a sociopath; all we have left are our memories of bonds.

With that in mind, I don't think anyone can blame Sakura for her hesitation. As much as we would all like to claim how we would act in her situation, it's always easier said than done. Consequently, I believe she has shown resolve to protect Konoha in that she has attempted multiple times now to kill Sasuke. Regardless of any lingering feelings, she knows her obligation is to protect her village and the loved ones she has left.

I do believe she loves both Naruto and Sasuke (or more so the Sasuke she remembers), however love is not one-sided. With Sasuke's recent mental lapse, I feel SasuSaku is not possible, unless Kishimoto provides us with some miraculous god hand that wipes Sasuke free of his sins and inner torment. Sadly, it seems only in death can Sasuke be set free. I can't fathom how Naruto would accept this, but maybe he will. Kishimoto has said time and again that the series is about bonds, so perhaps the end will be about growing up and letting go on Naruto's end? We'll just have to wait and see.


I would prefer to see a NaruSaku ending and feel it would play out far more logically considering the recent events, but we have to respect Kishimoto's story for what it is and his artistic direction.

That being said, I also hope Karin's story doesn't end on such a depressing note. For all her fan girl behavior, she really does care for Sasuke and I would love to see further bonding between her and Sakura. In a way, they're alternate versions of each other and show two paths that either could have taken.

Well, I'm happy to finally be on here and I look forward to having the opportunity for more discussion!

Please try not to flame me too much if you disagree. Let's play nice,okay?

[narukunsakuchan]

your right sakura dose not want to hurt naruto ant more and her useing narutos feelings would have done the worst by far and no one can deni that she really dose love naruto. thanks


narukunsakuchan
your right as well you cant fAKE a blush and the look on her face was real

thanks lol and if you want a comparison http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/3/17/ and http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/469/10/ both times she is basically admitting her feelings and has a similar look. besides when you examine 469, that look where she says i love you seems to be the only facial expression that is real when she is talking but when she goes to talking about sasuke she has fake ones. So you can tell it was real. The real question is to what extent does she love him now

[firegirl]

you said somthing we can agree on thank god

wah HOW MANY TIMES DO i have to tell i know she loves naruto but she does still love sasuke the PAST sasuke


i feel this chapter for sakura only sakura is an closing chapter now next chapter is going to focus more on naruto nad ssasuke bonds as well as kakashi

because sakura already saw first hand and alsmost got killed twice by sasuke i think she finally closing te chapter with him because even with the memorys she IS MOVING ON just remembering the old sasuke that she cant kill because even if he is nuts he IS STILL SASUKE but not the past sasuke

[Serenity Namikaze]

@hergirlunknown

Well said

Beside, the next chapters, Naruto will finally realize Sasuke new reality and will grow some more. As for Sakura, like you said, it a normal reaction and I didn't expeted anything else. Of course, I would have like to see her kicking Sasuke's a** for a little while but I like that much better. Her failing the silent promise to Naruto will give her another motivation to stop being useless ( in her POV)

Edited by silverserenity, 25 February 2010 - 05:44 PM.