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#181 rocci

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 04:59 PM

@otaru
I rember, that's symbol called full moon because that is ashura background.
While Indra take the crescent moon symbol.
But for me it still a sun.

Yes the part where he said it really confuse me, but if hamura indeed has the other half then why bz doesn't merge the lineage of hamura?

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:02 PM

@otaru
I rember, that's symbol called full moon because that is ashura background.
While Indra take the crescent moon symbol.
But for me it still a sun.

Yes the part where he said it really confuse me, but if hamura indeed has the other half then why bz doesn't merge the lineage of hamura?

 

Well it seems to be a full moon. But Naruto is representing the sun. I'll report my research results lol

 

I didn't understand your last line.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:11 PM

I will search in the manga about this full moon or sun thing. It's bothering me now. I prefer it to be a sun lol
On page 16 in 670, above Hamura there is a full moon. It's certain it's a full moon because it's night. I'll keep searching.

BZ is like a program for me too, some sort of recovering CD lol.

But I'm really starting to ask myself questions about Hamura because I just realised that Hamura had the moon crescent on his hand before. It's clear in this chapter. It's a certitude.

Also, in chapter 670, Hagoromo said that he and his brother sealed the juubi within them. So what ? Hamura has the half of juubi in his possession ? Is the juubi we know is only a half of the whole thing ? There is still a lot of questions.

Personally, I think it's the sun. I mean yeah there was that page of the brothers with the moon above them but it makes sense that Naruto has the sun -- duality, he represents light, and Kishi referred to Naruto & Sasuke as yin and yang -- Naruto had the yang half of Kurama inside him, and yang represents light, sun, etc.

Where did Hamura have the moon symbol? Oh, and about the juubi, I think someone (takL, I believe) said that it wasn't clear in the raw who the juubi was sealed inside.

That seems to be more accurate, but you have to admit nearly all of us want Narusaku to see happen badly. Heck, I'm pretty sure a lot us are still reading the manga just cause we want to see it happen.

I don't disagree. By like-minded fans I did mean "NaruSaku shippers," though that's not all there is to it. It's natural for fans to want their ship to be canon.

So I wont double post, I want to bring the possibility of a Part 3 that has been brought up. I don't think there will be a Part 3, since Kishi has mention multiple times that the manga is ending. Though for years now, it still a stretch to believe for us to believe that after years of advertising the ending of the manga that he would go back his word suddenly and make an entire new part. It doesn't even make sense financially either, since Naruto doesn't make the kind of money back at its peak, so it wouldn't make sense for him or the publisher to continue it.

However, with that said, I am not entirely against it. I like to think I still enjoy the manga, even though I do enjoy some chapters more than others. I don't mind it continuing, just as long as all the major plot points are already resolve and a new kind of conflict emerges. And when I mean all the major plot points, I also mean pairing aspect. This is the part I worry about, because I want that resolve the most already. If they continue a story to Part 3, then I know they would drag the romantic subplots with them. I don't want that, I want to see if Narusaku becomes canon or not. That is why I am not entirely for a Part 3, I don't want to worry longer to see if my pairing becomes canon or not.

Tbh I don't want Part 3. This manga is already dragging, it's time to end it. And I don't want the story, and the characters, to be ruined anymore than they already are, and if there was a part 3 the pairing conflict wouldn't be resolved before it starts and I really don't want it to be dragged out more and just made worse. And yeah, like you said, from Kishi's words (not to mention he's like ten years overdue for a honeymoon lol, and I'm sure he'd want to spend more time with his family), among other things, it doesn't sound like there will be.

Edited by Hiraishin, 28 August 2014 - 05:27 PM.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:13 PM

We forgot about Spiral Zetsu. The fact that Kaguya was sealed in an alternate dimension should have no effect on his own life since he's been meandering through the regular world for awhile now. Does Kishi have any purpose for him? It would be reasonable to assume that he still has his loyalties to the Moon's Eye Plan. The issue is that his opponents are so powerful and numerous that trying to mount a counteroffensive would equal suicide for him. His most practical option might be to lay low and see how things pan out. A handful of criminals and Madara himself will regain consciousness in the next few chapters. If they try to engage in combat then Spiral could exploit the ensuing chaos to regain his power source and join the fray. The Shinju itself might even be useful since it continues to blanket the earth.

 

I'm not sure how much could be accomplished in the above scenario besides tying up some loose ends though.



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:20 PM

Something is not right... It's just doesn't feel right...

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:20 PM

Same here. It's time to put this series to bed.

The only thing i'm certain is that if part 3 exists i'll drop.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:23 PM

The only thing i'm certain is that if part 3 exists i'll drop.

Don't worry, Kishi wants to spend more time with the family and he deserves it.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:31 PM

Hmmmm -_- after reading the chapter a few times over and over it's actually starting to feel like how a naruto fight/battle usually end. I can't quite explain why but it feels just like how a fight in the Naruto Verse should end......a lot of action, some drama but not that great of an ending that most people would expect.

Overall it was a good chapter for me and now the whole war arc is finally coming to an end. :D

Now as far a next chapter goes I can pretty much figure it'll Madara centered and the release of infinite tsukiyomi. Personally for me I wouldn't want Madara to turn a new leaf but rather go out the same way as sasori did when he died.....die like a villain but reward the heroes for defeating him. Would any of you accept that for Madaras end?

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:33 PM

guys, what will become of the juubis?


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:38 PM

The only thing i'm certain is that if part 3 exists i'll drop.

Maybe you should just drop the manga now...? It appears from your comments that you don't like ONE thing about this manga. Why force yourself to read something you don't like and later start criticizing every single thing about it? 


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:40 PM

And then Kakashi wouldn't have nothing to say. Just think as if you were the writer. You would want to make every character participate. Really, it's silly to feel threatened about Sakura talking to Sasuke.

That leaves anything for Kakashi? what

he could have say a lot of things


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#192 Otaru

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:40 PM

Personally, I think it's the sun. I mean yeah there was that page of the brothers with the moon above them but it makes sense that Naruto has the sun -- duality, he represents light, and Kishi referred to Naruto & Sasuke as yin and yang -- Naruto had the yang half of Kurama inside him, and yang represents light, sun, etc.

Where did Hamura have the moon symbol? Oh, and about the juubi, I think someone (takL, I believe) said that it wasn't clear in the raw who the juubi was sealed inside.

 

Yeah I thought it was the sun too. I was surprised that some fans said it was proven to be the moon. Really, it's not even clear in the manga.
In this chapter, 690, on page 3 it looks like to be heat is emerging from the sun on the left also. Well a full moon could represent the sun also since it's illuminated thanks to the sun.  If anyone have some precisions...
To me, it has always made more sense for it to be the sun, because Naruto is bright, warm, and he's representing life.

But those backgrounds in the flashback... I don't know...

Since some fans said it was the full moon, I just assumed it was because of that background.

 

About Hamura, well in this week chapter we just saw him and Hagoromo sealing Kaguya using their hands. So it's certain that Hamura had the moon crescent symbol in his hand before sealing their mother. It hit me when I was reading.

About the juubi sealing it isn't clear ? Oh well... nothing is certain lol

 

 

We forgot about Spiral Zetsu. The fact that Kaguya was sealed in an alternate dimension should have no effect on his own life since he's been meandering through the regular world for awhile now. Does Kishi have any purpose for him? It would be reasonable to assume that he still has his loyalties to the Moon's Eye Plan. The issue is that his opponents are so powerful and numerous that trying to mount a counteroffensive would equal suicide for him. His most practical option might be to lay low and see how things pan out. A handful of criminals and Madara himself will regain consciousness in the next few chapters. If they try to engage in combat then Spiral could exploit the ensuing chaos to regain his power source and join the fray. The Shinju itself might even be useful since it continues to blanket the earth.

 

I'm not sure how much could be accomplished in the above scenario besides tying up some loose ends though.

 

You're right there is still spiral zetsu. He seems to have his own personality just like BZ.

 

 

guys, what will become of the juubis?

 

?? The juubi crumbled into the 9 bijuus.

There is no juubi left.


Edited by Otaru, 28 August 2014 - 05:43 PM.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:41 PM

It's interesting that Kishi doesn't show their hands, heh...


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:43 PM

Maybe you should just drop the manga now...? It appears from your comments that you don't like ONE thing about this manga. Why force yourself to read something you don't like and later start criticizing every single thing about it?

It's like a drug, you know it's bad for you but you still take it and since we are close to the end might as well finish it.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:43 PM

That was so anti-climatic. The whole fight with Kaguya and Black Zetsu just feels so pointless, like it was just meant to fill time, but I don't know for what reason. Kaguya was just a waste of panel space, a horribly dull villain and a character with pretty much zero personality. Reading the fight between her and team 7 was like watching paint dry. Probably the most boring fight in this or any manga I've read. Well, in any case, I'm glad this war appears to be over... unless there's a plot twist coming, which with Kishimoto very possible.



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:47 PM

It's interesting that Kishi doesn't show their hands, heh...

 

Hamura and Hagoromo's hands ?

 

Maybe it's not on purpose because with these parallel panels it's obvious both Hamura and Hagoromo had the symbols just like Sasuke and Naruto in order to seal Kaguya.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:53 PM

 
Yeah I thought it was the sun too. I was surprised that some fans said it was proven to be the moon. Really, it's not even clear in the manga.
In this chapter, 690, on page 3 it looks like to be heat is emerging from the sun on the left also. Well a full moon could represent the sun also since it's illuminated thanks to the sun.  If anyone have some precisions...
To me, it has always made more sense for it to be the sun, because Naruto is bright, warm, and he's representing life.
But those backgrounds in the flashback... I don't know...
Since some fans said it was the full moon, I just assumed it was because of that background.

Yeah, I just realised after posting that there were those flame-like things on page three. IMO I think that confirms it's a sun. And yep, Naruto is bright and warm, even his chakra... Maybe those moons were just to show that back then those were "dark" times? Lol idk.

 

About Hamura, well in this week chapter we just saw him and Hagoromo sealing Kaguya using their hands. So it's certain that Hamura had the moon crescent symbol in his hand before sealing their mother. It hit me when I was reading.

ohh. If that's true then I wonder why Hagoromo has both, now. Maybe Hamura gave his power to him.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:54 PM

Something is not right... It's just doesn't feel right...

What do you mean?



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:54 PM

"Now we all can live happily ever after!"

 

:wot:  NO.

 

Far away from where you are, Hime-sama is waking up and realizing it was all a dream.  :chuckle:


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 05:55 PM

They finally took down Madara

 

 

So, I guess that's a wrap. All that was missing was a high five and a cowabunga.


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