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[Awes9]

I agree. People have their own set of expectations before every chapter and later get disappointed and annoyed when it doesn't happen that way.There would be a million opinions from fans. But the only opinion that matters is the mangaka's. Why have high expectations and set yourself for disappointment later is something I don't get. Its better to just go with the flow of the story. 
 
I saw a post claiming disappointment that Kakashi wasn't made a 2nd White fang like ninja. Its weird to expect something like that. Kakashi of the Sharingan was how he was introduced and written for 650+ chapters. Why do people expect him to become a completely different type of ninja all of a sudden now? How could the mangaka even make something like that work? That would be a bigger asspull than giving back Kakashi his Sharingan!

I think most of us simply exepct the writer to respect the rules that he has himself established, all we ask for is consistency and coherence.

Edited by Awes9, 06 August 2014 - 12:37 PM.

[Swagkura]

Sakura will get ssm and summon 100% katsuyu in the next arc or part 3.
At least it's not a "given" power.

Yeah, that's true. I hope she gets a power up soon

[Hiraishin]

Man... I knew that last chapter couldn't be the absolute end of Obito. I knew that there would have to be Kakashi's thoughts on Obito, or Obito contacting him from the great beyond to say goodbye to him, because last chapter he solely focused on Naruto.

Obito really has the ultimate MS technique. First, he has his own dimension that he can freely pass through. Great. Then, he can use his kamui to go to dimensions which aren't even his own... okay... Now he can pass between the living world and limbo or wherever the kitten. uh....

Obito should just stay inside Kakashi since he can do that. See the future himself. Besides, if he thinks he's so useless without the Sharingan he should stay, just in case he needs it again.

 
LMAO

LMAO I thought NS fans were the ones who grasped at straws.

Sakura couldn't be cheering Naruto for both saving Sasuke and his attacks? I think if she was cheering for him saving Sasuke she would have shown a panel of her worrying about him before, or a sigh of relief. Sasuke using his eye technique to save Sakura would be done much faster than Naruto going out and trying to get her, wasting precious time. Perhaps he was so happy because Sakura was saved period, even though she was about to be grabbed by the hand. Lmao, "happy that he thought Sasuke was the one who saved her," as if he would be disappointed if it was someone else who did. He thought it was Sasuke because of the Susanoo, and because he just told him to save her. Plus, him saying Sasuke was a nice segueway into the "eeehh?!"

All you need to know is that Sasuke had to be told to rescue Sakura. Otherwise she would have been taken.

Edited by Hiraishin, 06 August 2014 - 01:36 PM.

[rocci]

I think most of us simply exepct the writer to respect the rules that he has himself established, all we ask for is consistency and coherence.

For good or bad. Kishi explanation always come out later after an event happen, maybe we will see explanation in the next chapter.
Actually what kind of rule kishi break in this chapter?

[Broken Figurine]

Wow, how the times changed. Back in my day, if you wanted a sharingan you either had to be an Uchiha or have a medic do a complicated procedure to give you that eye. Then kids were telling me that you can just grab it with your fingers and stick it in to whomever you please! Now you don't even need eyes that are actually there! Just make sure you were good friends with an Uchiha, and one in the afterlife might give it to you hassle free! 

 

Kakashi was a missed opportunity, because having to adjust from having a powerful catch-all justu to a 'mundane' would have been an interesting read, and to the post about how Kakashi and the Sharingan have gone hand in hand for so long that this should be expected, there is such a thing as progress and character development. I will only agree with Atheck that the positive about his 'powerup' is that as far as Susanoo's go, his does have a friendly, comforting quality to it that is in line with his attitude. I love that Kakashi's first priority once getting the sharingan was to save Sakura. I love that he says "let's watch over them" not in a way that belittles her, but recognizing their roles as supports. He's still that kind teacher that he always was, and hopefully Sakura and him can work together somehow to produce results.

 

Speaking of Sakura, my love for her grows in measure of the ridiculousness of the people around her. I wouldn't abhor any kind of crazy plot twist for her, because my goodness, she could go so long without one can I really be mad if she got something for once? No, BUT I am happy that she doesn't, and I hope it stays that way. True, getting saved -again- gets tedious, but it was at least by Kakashi's loving initiative rather than Sasuke 'deigning' to save her because Naruto asked. At Kakashi's side I feel like the two at least have a chance to share meaningful dialogue and strategize about something. 

 

Hip hip hoorah for our unrelentingly accountable heroine! You'll never see her with a jutsu that couldn't be explained through hard work! 

Edited by Broken Figurine, 06 August 2014 - 12:46 PM.

[lupina]

 

NarSak be mad with this chapter

Cause Sakura was cheering on Naruto because he caught Sasuke. Also Kishi didn’t made Naruto just go and save Sakura personally, he made Naruto ask Sasuke to do it and he obviously was going to do it. Bonus when Naruto thought that Sasuke was the one who really saved Sakura he looked the happiest person ever. 

 

 

 

Uhm ... for real now? 

[Otaru]

Its just that it has happened so much to many times that I have lost track and its impossible for me enjoy what was once was a beautiful written story now its all about asspulls . I mean come on Kakashi being Hokage bc of Obito and before Naruto when Naruto worked so hard in this war that's not right .  But to each his own  

 

And you can't copy Susanoo its genetic that was established long ago , You can't copy Kekegenkai  this is the inconsistency that's happening for quite some time  .

 

But Kakashi is fooling logic and kekkei genkai since the very beginning of this manga. Obito gave him his sharingan. Kakashi has been able to use it since the beginning. It's a kekkei genkai, but someone gave it to him. Since Kakashi possess Obito's genetic material with the eyes, he can use it.

[Cherry-Bloss93]

I just love how Sasuke was powerless to do anything in this chapter lol - not to mention Sakura was more hyped about Naruto and didn't even bat an eye about Sasuke...

However, quick question - how is it that Naruto has all the tailed beast chakras? I thought he only had three of them :/

[Otaru]

@otaru
You can't copy kekkei genkai, but you can claim it.
Like kakashi with obito sharingan, the mist dude with hyuga byakugan, Yamato with hashi mokuton, and kabuto with his sound four & team taka ability.

What happen in this chapter is, obito soul go back to the worl and merge with kakashi performing ps.
If it permanent, that because obito residue soul/chakra still left or something like garra sand control.
If temporary, well that's it.

 

Yes that's what I think too.

 

Maybe I express it bad before, but what I think is that : Obito's soul is actually with Kakashi's soul. That permitted Kakashi to have sharingan again, and that permitted him to use Susanoo that he copied a long time ago when Sasuke showed it to him (it's the same as Sasuke's Susanoo). He could use it because he has both eyes, what he can't do before with only one eye.
I think Kakashi copied the way to call Susanoo, not the Susanoo itself. And I think he wasn't able to use it because he didn't have both eyes.

I'm sure at 99.99% copying is involved in all this because Kishimoto made Naruto said something about it. and I'm also sure at 99.99% that this would not have been possible without Obito's soul.

 

It's obvious Obito's soul will leave. But I think Naruto will be able to do something and recreate both sharingans for Kakashi from those temporary sharingans Obito gave him. It's possible Kakashi would be still able to call Susanoo after that. Moreover, Kishi wants to make him the Rokudaime. So he needs to be more powerful than before.

Edited by Otaru, 06 August 2014 - 01:06 PM.

[Cherry-Bloss93]

You know, Sakura getting saved again isn't all that shocking to me - after all, the fact she's managed to survive this long against what is essentially a god is imo pretty outstanding.

[talkNOjutsu]

Last week there was lot of complaining about Obito. Now there's lot of complaining about Kakashi.   *sighs*

What exactly happened with Kakashi and his eyes has not even been mentioned this week. Chapter ended with Sasuke querying about Kakashi's sharingan. Maybe Kakashi will explain next chapter? Can't a little patience be shown until the next chapter instead of assuming and criticizing ? 

[Otaru]

I just love how Sasuke was powerless to do anything in this chapter lol - not to mention Sakura was more hyped about Naruto and didn't even bat an eye about Sasuke...

However, quick question - how is it that Naruto has all the tailed beast chakras? I thought he only had three of them :/

 

He gain them long ago when he made friend with them and learned their names.

The bijuus associated their chakra to Naruto because they wanted to. Because they trust him.

Edited by Otaru, 06 August 2014 - 01:08 PM.

[Coca Cola]

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Im glad about Naruto worrying about Sakura.

 

But this manga keeps making less and less sense as it goes on.

[lord287]

Okay so I am pretty convinced Naruto will not become Hokage in the end. This was a pretty strong foreshadow by kishi. Already tsunade is the current hokage and now their is one more person before Naruto in the line   .

 

Also wth happened? I am disappointed that how kishi just made obito give him the sharingan even after his body literally was moved to nothing but sand. I hope kishi just give a little bit of moment to kakashi and then it is back to Naruto to defeat Kaguya. I will be very much annoyed if kakashi or even sasuke  plays more important role than Naruto in defeating kaguya.

[narusaku256]

I sure loved how Naruto kicked Kaguya's butt and...and then Sakura cheering for Naruto. Oh! And even that...Sasuke could do nothing to save Sakura and once again Kishi trolling SS and giving mild NS moments. Naruto was kickass todayand insanely powerful with that attack! I don't think Sasuke would stand a chance to Naruto...when N vs S happens...

AND NOW......asspulls.....asspulls everywhere. It seems like Kishi decided in the last chapter to not give Kakashi the sharingan and make him stand on his own might but later decided to give Kakashi...both the Sharingans! AND a BLOODY FULL SUSANOO!!!!!!! Not only does Kakashi doesn't have Uchiha lineage but......HE LACKS THE BLOODY CHAKRA as well! How is it that the guy who used to get tired after using Kamui multiple times is able to use susanoo as lucidly as a massive chakra powered Uchiha!!

Kakashi is a great character...really! But this...was just too much!

[ButterBean]

Wow. Kakashi having a Susanoo! That killed every brain cells I have.

Yay for a little NS moment!

Sasuke doesn't know what is happening. Its like he is just there with a shocking face everywhere. huehuehue

 

So, how old will Naruto be when he becomes Hokage? I mean Kakashi is only 30 (?) years old. When will he retire, after 20 years in his reign as Hokage? Naruto will wait waaay to long to become hokage.

[rocci]

@otaru
I agree with your post, except :
- kakashi cannot copy sasuke susanoo.
- ps come from obito. It has similarity with shamanking over soul.

[Swagkura]

I'm sorry, but am I the only one who noticed this? 

 

 

 

 

 

[rocci]

@swagkura
Coincident.