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[narusaku256]

Guys, I have just been reading the latest manga on mangareader and mangastream. I have found considerable differences in translation on some pages on both the sites. So which is the closest to the original manga, mangareader or mangastream?

Edited by narusaku256, 04 April 2014 - 10:38 AM.

[六道仙人]

usually Mangapanda.

[narusaku256]

oh alryt thnx!

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Here's the thing: Sasuke is the problem and Naruto is the solution/child of prophecy/etc. Sasuke is the problem that needs to be solved because it was his ancestor's fault that the war even happened. Naruto has made a huge progress on creating a new world without forcing, all because he just wants to protect his friends. Simple as that. All is going to be solved, but Sasuke is the final wall. He can start once again carnage that will start everything over. It takes one person to ruin everything. It's like if two different sides almost became brothers but one shot the other and chaos breaks. Sasuke is that shooter.

No one said that Sasuke got the same importance as Naruto since Sasuke true job is to accept the way of Naruto and cooperate. Naruto is there to change everything.

Which is why screwed the story, Sasuke's faults and Naruto's efforts it's all being credited to the past generations and the destiny.
It's ridiculous, Naruto would get all the credit for doing things by himself or whatever but he's now not Naruto but just another reincarnation of Ashura who's going to fight once again against Indra which now is Sasuke and it's not his fault that he did all the things, it's his clan's curse because people hate cops.

 

Sasuke got the same importance of Naruto regardless of his true job is to accept Naruto's way and cooperate, he's being put on equal foot to Naruto on this war, if he's redeemed or not that's his personal business on which Kishi is doing all he can to involve the whole universe on trying to save a guy who doesnt want to be saved.

The more you think about it the more it doesnt make sense, Naruto's character is totally screwed with the reincarnation business because it makes he just an Ashura reincarned and that he's destined and if he fails another Ashura would rise and try again and again and again endlessly.

 

I dont even need to point out the fact that during the entire manga Naruto tried to handle everything by himself and because of 5 chapters he's now a guy that believes on cooperation in order to succeed.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 04 April 2014 - 01:36 PM.

[Chatte]

Am I the only one that thinks the fact that Kishi brought the 5 Kage summit arc pages back, it means something?! Dunno, I believe that it could've been shortened but given how he added those pages with Sakura taking Naruto's part in front of K11 with all those discussions, it's like it will bring something more... Meh, dunno, it's just a thought that's gone through my mind.

[luffyq1]

Am I the only one that thinks the fact that Kishi brought the 5 Kage summit arc pages back, it means something?! Dunno, I believe that it could've been shortened but given how he added those pages with Sakura taking Naruto's part in front of K11 with all those discussions, it's like it will bring something more... Meh, dunno, it's just a thought that's gone through my mind.

He remembers those past events and that's a good thing. I'm sure they'll be revisited when something NS related comes up.

[narusaku256]

I think even Kishi knows how much controversy Sakura's confession created, right? So I think he will give us more insights on her confession too. IF he wishes to go with NS, the confession will be made clear and will no longer remain as ambiguous and hazy as it is now. These were just my thoughts on it!

[Gojira]

I wonder if Kishi did this on purpose

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/572/6

http://www.mangapand...m/naruto/663/15

[Hiraishin]

^ yep, definitely. I wouldn't be surprised if they actually kissed, too, because of that comment and the CPR scene... Plus, they've gotta finish the kiss they never had in chapter 3 (with Naruto not transformed as Sasuke, of course).

[ramenanmitsu]

After reading this chapter I feel like a hypocrite. Why am I hating Karin for her unhealthy, and annoying obsession towards Sasuke while my favorite character Naruto is doing the same? I'm giving Naruto a free pass for his one-sided miserable misunderstanding(they're not great friends) while despising Karin for the same thing. This doesn't seem right. Can all the other Karin haters explain whats so different about their obsession towards Sasuke!?

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 04 April 2014 - 05:29 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Well they did grow up together technically speaking since age 8 and form a rivalry, only to become closed friends. Then, last arc of part 1, everything changed. That's why Naruto doesn't witness or see all the bad traits from Sasuke, only up to that point. Sakura held the info because Sasuke don't want Naruto to know. When things got worse, Sakura told Naruto everything and understand this mess, including Orochimaru. It's telling when Sasuke was done from achieving curse seal 2, Naruto acted like nothing bad has happened, but when Sasuke laughed evilly, Naruto got annoyed because it feels like Sasuke isn't his friend anymore. Plus currently, if they work together, friend or foe, they do connect well.

As for Karin, well I can't explain so much, though the flashback still does separate from other fangirls, so that's all for now. Plus she too went through normal Sasuke to psycho one. Sasuke wasn't a psycho until Danzou, so there's that.

[Hiraishin]

After reading this chapter I feel like a hypocrite. Why am I hating Karin for her unhealthy, and annoying obsession towards Sasuke while my favorite character Naruto is doing the same? I'm giving Naruto a free pass for his one-sided miserable misunderstanding(they're not great friends) while despising Karin for the same thing. This doesn't seem right. Can all the other Karin haters explain whats so different about their obsession towards Sasuke!?

Personally, I hate Naruto's obsession with Sasuke just as much as I do Karin's. I suppose they're a little different cause Naruto and Sasuke were actually decent friends/teammates, but...it's still very unhealthy, like Karin's. Perhaps you're giving him a free pass because he's your favourite character?

[narusaku256]

This question does pop up in my mind sometimes. Its just a question guys. If somehow Sasuke manages to pin Naruto down and is about to kill him when Sakura comes in the middle to protect Naruto and dies in Naruto's hands departing with ''I love you Naruto''.What will Naruto do then? Still forgive Sasuke or well we all know how badass Naruto becomes when he is angry.

[redragon88]

After reading this chapter I feel like a hypocrite. Why am I hating Karin for her unhealthy, and annoying obsession towards Sasuke while my favorite character Naruto is doing the same? I'm giving Naruto a free pass for his one-sided miserable misunderstanding(they're not great friends) while despising Karin for the same thing. This doesn't seem right. Can all the other Karin haters explain whats so different about their obsession towards Sasuke!?

 

It is hypocritical to support Naruto's bond with Sasuke while chastising Karin's. But I'll give my insight into why it happens anyway:

 

1) Naruto is the main character so plenty of people (as yourself) tend to gravitate into supporting his views even if they would disagree with other characters having similar opinions.

2) Naruto has moment where he seems to reach Sasuke emotionally (like during the Summit arc), but that only happens since it's necessary to the plot given that... (go back to 1)

 

People choose to forget that Sasuke successfully pierced Naruto in his lung at the Valley of the End, and that Naruto could've died right there if it wasn't for Kurama healing him.

 

And other people claim that piercing Naruto is different, no it isn't. Sasuke chose to go for the kill instead of incapacitating.

 

There's also the people who just hate Karin's character as a whole, therefore choose to criticize all of her including her bond with Sasuke even though they turn around and say that the bond between Naruto and Sasuke is the greatest bromance ever told.

[rocci]

@narusaku256
The story dynamic will change, and naruto would become avanger.
I think it would become like berserk. It's a seinen manga.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It's funny because this is a very light tone of Berserk when it comes to bromance gone wrong.

[rocci]

@ns4life
I absolutely agree. I even think if NS happen in the middle of manga, I think kishi will do casca on sakura.
Maybe temporally kill her and then revive her later. Or
Kidnap her for entire part two.
Or make her lose her memory and bring everything to square one.

Edited by rocci, 04 April 2014 - 10:55 PM.

[luffyq1]

even though they turn around and say that the bond between Naruto and Sasuke is the greatest bromance ever told.

Pure comedy.

[ramenanmitsu]

Personally, I hate Naruto's obsession with Sasuke just as much as I do Karin's. I suppose they're a little different cause Naruto and Sasuke were actually decent friends/teammates, but...it's still very unhealthy, like Karin's. Perhaps you're giving him a free pass because he's your favourite character?

Karin and Sasuke were decent teammates too and he did care for her before he became kitten insane. So I don't really see how Naruto's obsession is any better.

You're right. I think because he's my favorite character I gave him a free pass.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 04 April 2014 - 11:49 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Personally, I hate Naruto's obsession with Sasuke just as much as I do Karin's. I suppose they're a little different cause Naruto and Sasuke were actually decent friends/teammates, but...it's still very unhealthy, like Karin's. Perhaps you're giving him a free pass because he's your favourite character?

It's different Naruto get a free pass but i do not hate his character the reason why he thinks Sasuke as his friend is because Jump's Shounen value the notion of friendship and Nakama.

So it's understandable to see Naruto acting this way but it doesnt make his character good, Kishimoto is destroying Naruto's character with each chapter and adding inconsistencies to the story and screwing the message his tried to send on part 1.

For me Naruto is not a lose anymore, he's just another Ashura reincarnated on which is destined to undo the mess of rikudou and if he fails another would rise again.

I now understand why Kishi said he would put an effort to make the ending convincing because after all this crap we got recently the only thing i want on this story is to end it soon.
Because i doubt if i would be able to stand another arc, as soon as this Naruto vs Sasuke battle ends i'll officially drop.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 04 April 2014 - 11:53 PM.