I agree, but my reason for thinking that they way Kishimoto goes around squelching/ignoring the ideas obvious complications and problems. It doesn't help that the obvious objections and people you'd expect to raise them are ignored or are Deus Ex Machina'd out of existence. He undermines his own message when he pretend these issues don't exist. It's easy to "win" when you cheat. For me, he's shafting character development and credibility for the purity of his message.
I agree, Orochimaru, Obito and even Madara are there to confirm this, Orochimaru is more critical he dedicated his whole life doing horrors to other people, experiments and etc...
Just in the end he says "i dont care anymore, i just want to see where Sasuke is going just for the lulz".
It's cheap and too easy in my opinion, Madara acting all cocky when he dedicated his whole life living on a cavern because his brother died.
Obito is another one, Rin died but nothing prevented him from restarting his own life somewhere, but worse on the verge of succeeding he gives up.
For those who have seen a "Charlie Brown Christmas" there is a scene near the end where Charlie Brown puts an ornament on his sad-sack tree to try and improve it. He makes it worse and says:
"Everything I touched gets ruined."
That's about sums up Team Taka. Even when they only serve as background noise (like this chapter, it's like the suck all the life out of scene and everything is worse off for them having been apart of it. The first half of this chapter was straight up awful.
The smallest problem was Suigetsu making a joke of the obvious hypocrisy of Kabuto. I guess it was at least acknowledge, but it's symptomatic of his long standing problem of nothing taking the obvious issues seriously because it conflicts with his message. I understand Team Taka is in large part used a comedic relief, but the often ill-timed, and unfunny nature of the comedy makes hard to care about them seriously, so when it comes time to do so, I can't manage. The only way they encompass the concept "joke" is in the "please stop it, you're embarrassing yourself" kind of way.
They are one of the few things that makes less sense than Izanami.
Speaking of that: So, basically, it's Talk-No-Jutsu given true jutsu form. Stupidest jutsu of the series.
As for Kabuto, I think it might have been more effective to show him breaking Izanami than the cheap flashback and the line about finding himself. It's its great that the true "self" turns out to be pretty much the only time he was a decent human being. In fact, that works out great because otherwise I don't see the connection between that and what he's doing now. The leap from that to this is not obvious at all. I'm not sure why he returned or why he gives a damn about Sasuke. Even as his true self, Kishmoto is making leaps without explanation. I hope we get something better than this for an explanation.
I hate it because it pretty much sides steps his entire adult life as if that wasn't really him at all and never really happened to him. It's as if personality was a different guy and it's gone, so it's time to do good and help Sasuke. Being a toady who follows his leader down into the abyss could be who he is just as much as the child was. It's so weak and isn't genuine character development at all. If this is a "redemption" it has no substance.
I like him complaining about being used by Orochimaru as if he wasn't a full-fleged and willing participant and not being particularly phased that the instigator of the worst part of his life is standing right now.
As I argued before: ultimately, being you true self is portrayed as an absolute good without justifying it.
As for Sasuke: What luck, now he gets the 1st cells and it sounds like some Senjutsu too. What a fortuitous chain events! It's as contrived as Tsunade being put back together.
At least Gai did some cool stuff with the prospect he might do more. I don't want him to die, but I like Gai and like watching him in action. So, it wasn't a total loss.
Agree, Taka is like doing jokes of the situations Kishi created himself, it's like he satirizing his own work, look Kabuto is back and good but he's the one who started the war and bought Madara back but no one cares because he's "good" now.
In my sincere opinion the overall plot has been destroyed by now, i'll always look at Naruto Shippuuden as the story it full of missed oportunities and with it's goals not being focused.
Peace and Hatred despite being a recurring theme of this manga all of this were put on background, Naruto never worked towards those goals and in the end he achieved it, it's just about Naruto chasing Sasuke, even the fate of the world lies if Naruto is going to save Sasuke or not because the way the story is progressing if Naruto fails, Sasuke is going to become Madara 2.0 and start everything once again.
Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 07 March 2014 - 10:45 AM.
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