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[LadyGT]

^ No I heard he drew it to introduce the character to his assistants, I don't get what's so terrifying about it, it just depicts a trait of her after all.

[TouKen4Life3g]

^ No I heard he drew it to introduce the character to his assistants, I don't get what's so terrifying about it, it just depicts a trait of her after all.

That's what my friend said too. It's not rumor, it's true. He got the book and everything. Translated it and all.

[FireFox]

That's what my friend said too. It's not rumor, it's true. He got the book and everything. Translated it and all.

Are you talking about @Kronin from NF ? I tried to find his post via Google search but came across a post of @Chatte expaling this based on what he said anyway  here is @Chatte's post on what he says :

Gaah, that again. Ok, let’s cut this kitten down cause I am DONE with it!
Before everything, special thanks to Kronin for clearing this up.

Many have said that, others have said that it was intended for Hinata to be a civilian.

Both, false. [I admit I was the one with the civilian because of a quite confusing part, you’ll see in the translation].

Now, let’s get it clear.

What does it say there? Thanks Kronin once again:

Sorry but I have to correct you about Hinata’s part, actually it’s not what Kishimoto said; that picture is included in the Databook and translating the description to the English (I own the volume) the author say:

"A colored Hinata drawn to act as a guideline. This design of Hinata in civilian clothes appear for the first time in this volume"

And below:

"I drew this just for fun" (title in blank)
"I drew this just for fun. It was to make it clear to my asisstant how Hinata had to be. I had drawn it thinking to the world of Naruto, but in the end came out a very normal girl (laughs)"

So as we see, those are some guidelines on how Hinata had to be and had to look. That’s all. No actual meaning and hidden message behind it.

Hope I cleared everyone with this.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yes. That's him. We had a same discussion. Suddenly, in a full moon, he finally stepped in and gave us what really said. I said that because this discussion always brought up, but he finally came when the time truly needed.

P.S. He was telling me this, hence "you're wrong." So glad to be wrong.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 20 February 2014 - 09:50 PM.

[FireFox]

Yes. That's him. We had a same discussion. Suddenly, in a full moon, he finally stepped in and gave us what really said. I said that because this discussion always brought up, but he finally came when the time truly needed.

P.S. He was telling me this, hence "you're wrong." So glad to be wrong.

Yes i remember now that was the discussion i was trying to find LOL , when i saw that i was like are you for real ? finally i can shove that evidence right into the NH face  , but the damage was already done some are still using that as an evidence go figure .     

[James S Cassidy]

-sigh- Look, I hate to rain on people's parade or purposely try to ruin people's hopes and dreams, but Sasuke has NEVER shown any interest in Sakura at all during this entire manga.

People can look into folklore, try to go with names, make connections from one to another, but at the end of the day we have to look at the bare fact that Sasuke has NEVER shown interest in Sakura.

Sasuke has NEVER shown interest in Sakura.

NEVER.

I will repeat this a thousand times if I have to. To say that these two characters will get together despite one character not even giving a crap and without development is just....I can't even find a word to describe how ludicrous it is. How can these two get together when one character has no interest in the other? How? How can you make it happen AND assume it to be believable? I can't picture it. At this point in time, and all the crap Sasuke has done to Sakura, I just can't picture it.

There is no love there. There is nothing. At least NaruHina has SOME foundation with Naruto at least caring about Hinata from time to time. Sasuke doesn't give a crap about anyone, BUT himself and what benefits him. Kishimoto even confirms this.

I don't get how people can sit here and still say SasuSaku has a chance when half of this pairing couldn't care less about it. How can you make a pairing canon when one character doesn't even show anything at the idea and at times even calls her "useless?"

I'm sorry. No matter what theory people throw at me to "prove" themselves, they can't put the love for Sakura in Sasuke no matter how hard they try. You can't convince me that he loves Sakura when at times he left her to die for his own selfish desires or cared very little about saving her. Hell, he almost killed her himself. How is that love?

And again, if SS is supposed to be canon, why isn't Sakura with Sasuke right now? If the writer can do whatever the hell he wants, then I am pretty sure he can have Sakura kneeling right next to him.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 21 February 2014 - 12:30 AM.

[Nostradamus]

Becuase she doesnt belong to that plot after all.
I dont know but Sakura is there listening to everything without unnderstanding what is going one, all the talk about hatred, SoP6 and etc... was never been her role.

To be fair Madara is just giving his own personal interpretation of what the Rikudou Sennin wanted to do without actually knowing what the Sennin wanted to do. His entire monologue is basically "Bla bla bla bla Madara is amazing bla bla bla power bla bla bla you're Madara bla bla bla everyone is Madara bla bla bla savior bla bla bla failed bla bla bla chakra is weapon bla bla bla power bla bla bla no power." he is just rambling. And yes Sakura is not part of the hatred plot but you cannot blame her for not understanding what is going on because Madara is just talking nonsense. Actually if you study Madara's monologue you'll realize that he's a hypocrite.

Edited by Nostradamus, 21 February 2014 - 12:42 AM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yes i remember now that was the discussion i was trying to find LOL , when i saw that i was like are you for real ? finally i can shove that evidence right into the NH face  , but the damage was already done some are still using that as an evidence go figure .     

It's odd because how did we obtain the false information in the first place? It's like if we can't read Japanese, they can make up a story. This goes to everyone, not just NH fans. It's...odd.

[KnS]

What is Minato going to lose now a leg? he already lost both his arms.

 

[TyranntX]

I wonder if we will get to see any demons in chapter 666.... get it? 666, demons? lol!

 

any way I cant wait for the next chapter.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Imagine chapter 666 only brings the worst of the chapter.

[TyranntX]

Imagine chapter 666 only brings the worst of the chapter.

 is that to say that chapter 777 will be good?   (just joking, not sure it its going to go that high)

[TouKen4Life3g]

 is that to say that chapter 777 will be good?   (just joking, not sure it its going to go that high)

Lol hey you never know. Obito seems good today, next week, Madara just wreck havoc.

[TyranntX]

Lol hey you never know. Obito seems good today, next week, Madara just wreck havoc.

 Hm, very true.... it  also seems like things are really leaning towards narusaku each and every chapter.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 Hm, very true.... it  also seems like things are really leaning towards narusaku each and every chapter.

Yeah, it's one big buildup. Granted, there are others, but NS is in with them. Something tells me something big is coming.

[Liu bie]

I remembered something. When Minato lost one arm because was hit for those bijudama that Obito made, but Madara just cut his arm with the staff I think Minato will recover that arm. what do you think guys?

[咲耶姫]

 

I see.

I red this...

I have to say, this is exactly the reason why I'm still fearing SS and NH.

Thoses two drawings, and those legend that could be linked with the characters in some way...

Especially the drawing with Hinata and Naruto in the background.

I'm just gonna repost what I posted some times ago, this are the translations of the Hinata drawing NarutoFireFoxUzumaki posted above: 

 

And fot those wha have been told by some NH fan that Hinata was first made to be Naruto's love interest as a civillan, here is the truth: 

先生が設定用にカラーで描いたヒナタ。私服姿のヒナタのイラストは本邦初公開の貴重なものだ。

About Hinata’s drawing Sensei made during her character’s conception. The illustration of Hinata’s civilian clothes is a valuable thing of the first public exhibitions in our country.

 

楽しんで描いただけです。

It was just drew for fun

 

これはただ楽んで描いただけです、ハイ（笑）。一応はヒナタのイメージをアシスタントに伝えるためだったんですけどね。世界観を意識して描いたつもりなんですが...モロ今風の女の子になっちゃってますね（笑）。

It is just a simple drawing for fun, indeed (laugh). Although the first attempt was to inform the assistants about Hinata’s image. It was assured she didn’t fit in the world’s appearance, but.... She ended up in various girls’ modern style, right? (laugh). 

 

Here is my opinion on the 2 drawings: 

To me, there is no hidding message behind it, especially on the Sakura one. 

• Sakura's drawing: She's wearing a Yukata and a fan, with her hair up. That's all I have to say => It's the typical outfit for the festival in Japan. And the shuriken on the fan has nothing to do with Sasuke,his clan symbol has never been a shuriken, it's the fan, if I remembr correctly, the shuriken is the symbol of the police. 
• Hinata's drawing: The written part explain it, it's a draft. She's wearing civilan clothes, under the sun, with Naruto on the background. => She's under the sun because, Hinata means "under the sun", "sunny place" = nothing to do with Naruto who NH fans like to qualify as "the sun", and Naruto is in the background because like the written part say, she has to be part of the Naruto universe (and maybe because Kishimoto had already determined her shy love for Naruto)

 

There are many folktales and mythologies that inspired Kishi, some of them indicates SS/NH and some NS/SK. Only some of them play into the actual story, such as the 'Tale of the Gallant Jiraiya' and the 'H&E' theory.

Personnaly, I never saw any connection with Heaven and Earth, the only thing I found in mythology is about Izanami and izanagi, who create the world by shaking a lance on a bridge placed between heaven and earth. So if someone could inform me about that H&E thing, I would be glad?

 

 Hm, very true.... it  also seems like things are really leaning towards narusaku each and every chapter.

Well, I think we are the only one seeing that build up, because on the contrary, lately, I often saw SS/NH fans saying they are relieved by the lack of Sakura reaction to Naruto dying. Just because she's keeping cool, they say, she doesn't love him. I even saw one Anti-NS saying that he was relieved by the CPR in 663, that it convinced him that NS wasn't going to happen... I was like "what the hell did I read?

But I won't pay to much attention to their biased opinion, they are just digging their grave (I don't know if the expression works in english lol). 

I kind of understand why they say that, a lot of NS fans said to them, that all Sakura needed to understand her feelings for Naruto was him to die in front of her eyes. So of course, they see Sakura not crying over him, keeping cool and all, so they jump on the occasion to say "you see, Sakura will never love Naruto". 

But they fail to see that Sakura is keeping cool because she has to in order to save Naruto, he still has a chance to survive, so it's obvious she's going to taje this chance and do her best, rather than cry over him. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 21 February 2014 - 11:43 AM.

[Hanabi]

To me, there is no hidding message behind it, especially on the Sakura one. 

• Sakura's drawing: She's wearing a Yukata and a fan, with her hair up. That's all I have to say => It's the typical outfit for the festival in Japan. And the shuriken on the fan has nothing to do with Sasuke,his clan symbol has never been a shuriken, it's the fan, if I remembr correctly, the shuriken is the symbol of the police. 

I don't think the shuriken has any meaning, this little girl beside them wears it too

[咲耶姫]

I don't think the shuriken has any meaning, this little girl beside them wears it too

Yeah that's what I meant, it has no real meaning, the shuriken is present everywhere in the manga, it's to show that it's a ninja world. But some were saying it's linked to Sasuke because his clan was the police of Konoha and the police symbol was the shuriken. 

Edited by 咲耶姫, 21 February 2014 - 05:50 AM.

[LadyGT]

Turns out that girl is related to some SS japanese mythology theory. We are doomed.