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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:22 PM

Really boring chapter. Also Sasuke has the potential to surpass Madara, yeah right. :lol:  So the guy who got humiliated by Bee, ended the fight between him and Deidara with a draw but Deidara decided to blow himself up and Sasuke only managed to survive because well he is an Uchiha therefore he always wins. Then barely survived the fight he had with Itachi even though Itachi was sick not to mention the fact that Itachi controlled the entire fight. Then at the Kage summit Sasuke got his ass owned by the Kages. So yeah Sasuke really has the potential to surpass even the Rikudou Sennin even the God Tree. :zaru:

So get ready Ladies and Gentlemen for some major asspulls in the future because they're coming.

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:36 PM

Meh this chapter was a TnJ chapter its was quite boring at its finest i really thought something will happen interesting but nope nothing big happen


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:37 PM

Really boring chapter. Also Sasuke has the potential to surpass Madara, yeah right. :lol:  So the guy who got humiliated by Bee, ended the fight between him and Deidara with a draw but Deidara decided to blow himself up and Sasuke only managed to survive because well he is an Uchiha therefore he always wins. Then barely survived the fight he had with Itachi even though Itachi was sick not to mention the fact that Itachi controlled the entire fight. Then at the Kage summit Sasuke got his ass owned by the Kages. So yeah Sasuke really has the potential to surpass even the Rikudou Sennin even the God Tree. :zaru:

So get ready Ladies and Gentlemen for some major asspulls in the future because they're coming.

 

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Now, this is somethin' to look more deeply into :D,alright, we should brace ourselves for an major ass pull... Something makes me think he''ll steal something , if he gets SEnju DNA , can he contain the other half of Kurama or Juubi? Sure, he hasn't got the body , but what if...
Obito has half senju cells plus a half body made of hashi's cells too...

What will Sasuke gain this time?


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:39 PM

I think Sasuke's power ups aren't going to stop till the battle of Naruto and Sasuke begins. Sasuke will surpass Madara. It was clear when he was paralleled to Madara since we knew about Madara's past. Like Naruto has surpassed, Sasuke will surpass and Sakura will surpass.

 

It was mostly informative, but this chapter gave me the thought of Sakura's SM being more possible. Everything Kishi wants to make, can make an explanation about it that we don't know of or that isn't very possible regarding something like he does with Sasuke's power ups though it's something I already know.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:39 PM

I hope the power up its somewhere near Naruto's level so i would consider Naruto vs Sasuke happen pretty much cuz  if they're not  the same level its  pointless to even happen


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:52 PM

Madara got raped by Hashirama his whole life.

True but Madara only lost to one opponent, Sasuke lost against a lot of opponents in this manga but in the end he "wins" the fights because like I said he is an Uchiha.

 

 

What will Sasuke gain this time?

Hinata she is the ultimate power-up. :lulz:

Jokes aside to be honest I don't know. I suspect it will have something to do with Orochimaru. Maybe Sasuke lets Orochimaru experiment with his body giving him some Senju DNA or maybe like Kabuto having DNA from everyone. Or Sasuke allows Orochimaru take control of his body but not entirely. Again I don't know this is just me speculating.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:03 PM

True but Madara only lost to one opponent, Sasuke lost against a lot of opponents in this manga but in the end he "wins" the fights because like I said he is an Uchiha.

 

Hinata she is the ultimate power-up. :lulz:

Jokes aside to be honest I don't know. I suspect it will have something to do with Orochimaru. Maybe Sasuke lets Orochimaru experiment with his body giving him some Senju DNA or maybe like Kabuto having DNA from everyone. Or Sasuke allows Orochimaru take control of his body but not entirely. Again I don't know this is just me speculating.

:hehehe: .. IF you ask someone else he/she will say that he beat him all because he is so omnipotent ,but that's a separate tale :P. I recall Orochimaru taking control over a Zetsutsu's body so i don't think he'll take over Sasuke's body nor he will let him. I think we'll get another show down Orochimaru vs Kakshi (hoping he comes out from fap land :D :lol: ) , because now he is quite strong with that Kamui justu ,even Madara can get overpowered if he is not careful. It would be cool if he participates as another villain not a puppeteer,well i kind ofi suspect he will control the edo kage  in the final battle,but that's my speculation. As for Sasuke he either snatches Madara's rinnegan ,becuase he has another eye hidden in his pocket or he steals the other half of Kurama , dunno..


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:07 PM

True but Madara only lost to one opponent, Sasuke lost against a lot of opponents in this manga but in the end he "wins" the fights because like I said he is an Uchiha.

 

And his only opponet was Hashirama, the fact is that Madara didnt had fights like Sasuke, he fought wars and wars,

And yet he lose every duel against Hashirama.

I dont know where Orochimaru mean with Sasuke surpassing Madara, he will surpass MAdara or he will surpass the Madara edo tensei.
Because i doubt he would be capable to surpass edo madara.

 

 

Kishi already broke the rule of senjutsu and it got ridiculous, with Sasuke he came up with bullsh** about experiment when he could not even control the senjutsu with the seal, but for some reason Sasuke can and have this affinity to a point that even his susano uses Senjutsu.(I know it's juugo but it's bullsh**)

 

So about Sakura getting sage mode, for me after the last three or two chapters, it's highly likely for her to have one.

I doubt it will be offensive but rather she will focus on enhance her healing skills more and hve more supportive jutsus, like setting up barriers and if Kishi goes generous enough, better he give Sakura Uzumaki sealing skills, which i think it will be the next fashion in Naruto, since the current one is Senjutsu.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:11 PM

Well, 4life you got your answer on how the Naruto vs Sasuke battle will be equal. Apparently Sasuke is, or at least can be, as powerful as Madara. WHo would have thought? I say, why is Sakura's power-up an asspull and not this one? I'm sorry, but I haven't seen Sasuke exhibit any power even remotely like Madara's.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:41 PM

Well, 4life you got your answer on how the Naruto vs Sasuke battle will be equal. Apparently Sasuke is, or at least can be, as powerful as Madara. WHo would have thought? I say, why is Sakura's power-up an asspull and not this one? I'm sorry, but I haven't seen Sasuke exhibit any power even remotely like Madara's.

Yep, i dont get because before Naruto's bijuu form was bigger in size than Sasuke's suzanoo.

But last chapter Sasuke asspulled that Susano and Kishi made it on the same size as the kyuubi.

All this with a sharingan.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 09:45 PM

I believe, Sasuke body(not eye) already reach it's peak of power and you can't develop it without using outside help(aka. Asspull). And rinnegan is his last power up, either by using pure hashi DNA or eating chakra chikara no mi.

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I believe naruto will learn fuin jutsu as soon as jiraiya sealing Amaterasu in search for tsunade arc and mentioning that uzumaki is a specialized in sealing area. And sakura already learn one, I think....

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:01 PM

Yep, i dont get because before Naruto's bijuu form was bigger in size than Sasuke's suzanoo.

But last chapter Sasuke asspulled that Susano and Kishi made it on the same size as the kyuubi.

All this with a sharingan.

 

This is kind of bothering me too. How did Sasuke's Susanoo get to be the same size as Naruto's kyuubi mode? I mean I must have missed something.

Anyway, all indicates that Naruto will receive Kurama's other half, therefore restoring it's original size when it attacked Konoha, and Sasuke to counterbalance will be handed the final Susanoo in some miraculous way.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:27 PM

Guess I've got a question, I never check mangastream but I hear people say they are among one of the most biased translation sites sadly tweaking dialogue to promote one pairing over another. Was there some case with this like in 631?



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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:30 PM

I'm sure this chapter will prove necessary for future events, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't looking forward to more fighting in this chapter.

 

 

Maybe the last chapter was a foreshadow of this one cause I'm seeing regrets all over.

 

Ok that was awful, better get going.... Night folks.

 

I get it, Darkness.

 

 

Was neat to see the flashback of the first kage. That was interesting. Otherwise the 5 kage finally arrived now the fight can take off. Next week can we please see shikamarus condition?

 

I suspect we will see that next chapter.

 

I've got the wsj preview

 

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"The battle against the God Tree starts! And Sasuke&Orochimaru will[...]!?"

 

Are these ever accurate?

 

I just have the uneasy feeling that i really dont want Sasuke and Naruto to share the goal of saving the world because this is stupid.

I still believe the will be steamrolled again and the chakra that the bijuus give to Naruto comes into play.

 

I'm hoping Sasuke will be taken out leaving Naruto to stop Obito.  With Juugo being the actually threat threat to Obito than Sasuke, once he's been removed from the equation, Sasuke will be easy pickings.  Once Naruto saves the day, Sasuke will get unbelievable jealous and do some things. . .

 

 

LOL so true.

Obito is just standing here watching lol

 

It's not even plausible.

 

Well, it's a battle of time.  If the enemy wants to use what little time they have left to give inspirational speeches, he'll be all for it.

 

Yeah, not the best chapter, but it wasn't too bad. I think Everyone here is only impatient cause only see this once a week. But remember Kishi only has a week to prepare this too. It's hard to make good quality work all the time with only a week to research, sketch, plot, etc. We need to remember that. If he did this monthly that we'd get better quality but lose interest cause of the wait slightly too. Trust me I read quite a pit of monthly manga. 

 

Oh yes, Needless was a killer with waiting time.  I'm sure once we look at it with it's future chapters in one sitting, we'll see this was a necessary chapter, and how it played it's part in the long run.  I agree with Phantom that it's waiting a week for each chapter the makes things seem so slow.

 

Dear God, Mangastream's translation is so f**cked up sometimes...

 

Seconded!

 

I think Sasuke's power ups aren't going to stop till the battle of Naruto and Sasuke begins. Sasuke will surpass Madara. It was clear when he was paralleled to Madara since we knew about Madara's past. Like Naruto has surpassed, Sasuke will surpass and Sakura will surpass.

 

It was mostly informative, but this chapter gave me the thought of Sakura's SM being more possible. Everything Kishi wants to make, can make an explanation about it that we don't know of or that isn't very possible regarding something like he does with Sasuke's power ups though it's something I already know.

 

However, Naruto hasn't surpassed Hashirama.  If Sasuke surpasses Madara, Naruto will have problems.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:41 PM

I'm sure this chapter will prove necessary for future events, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't looking forward to more fighting in this chapter.

 

The only purpose this chapter served was raising the spirits of the fodder, and providing an ass pull for Sasuke so that he could be useful again. What a waste.



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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:41 PM

Oh hey look. Sasuke gets another power-up for free.

Bleh.

BLEH.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:46 PM


Because i doubt he would be capable to surpass edo madara.

To be honest I'm afraid it will happen. I know it sounds ridiculous but I wouldn't be surprised if Sasuke ends up more powerful then Edo Madara.

 

 

P.S. Also I've noticed this in the previous chapter as well Hashirama has Kurama's chakra, well one of his clones has it. Question is how and when did Hashirama got Kurama's chakra. We only saw Naruto giving Kurama's chakra to the entire alliance in the beginning and we saw Naruto sharing Kurama's chakra with Sasuke and Juugo. So how did Hashirama get it?


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:48 PM

I get it, Darkness.

 

Shut it! Nappa!  :excited:

 

Guess I've got a question, I never check mangastream but I hear people say they are among one of the most biased translation sites sadly tweaking dialogue to promote one pairing over another. Was there some case with this like in 631?

 

I'll go along and ask if there was some mistranslations in Mangastream chapter 615 too.  


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:51 PM

Well, 4life you got your answer on how the Naruto vs Sasuke battle will be equal. Apparently Sasuke is, or at least can be, as powerful as Madara. WHo would have thought? I say, why is Sakura's power-up an asspull and not this one? I'm sorry, but I haven't seen Sasuke exhibit any power even remotely like Madara's.

Sasuke is all about given. Sakura is all about hard work and patience (ironic). Naruto is all about hard work. Sure, he has the heritage blood in him but that doesn't mean he got the power-up for free. He has to earn it by working it. Sasuke is about what's there to unlock rather than finding it. Orochimaru studied him for almost 3 years, so he knows he can achieve it but of course, since Orochimaru is always ready, he will give Sasuke that powerup.

Think about everything from beginning to know. The only time he trained besides learning the basics back in the past was Chidori. Now, ever since Naruto gotten stronger than him in part 1, he seeks faster power. He gained curse seal 2 before a week pass, he gained MS and EMS, and pretty much let Sharingan do the work. When it's the last time he has to work hard to get that one technique or anything. His battle against Itachi shows his progress from part 1 to part 2 in a off-screen training. Why? Because his character is always like that. Hell, we even got Sakura learning on medic and its rules, why not know how he got Kirin. Besides, if we have to keep up the pace, he has to get it asap. Otherwise, it will drag much longer. Put it this way. For Sasuke, it's shortcut and the eyes. For Sakura, it's hard work and explanation but off-screen. For Naruto, it's hard work, explanation, demonstration, and shown on-screen.

Now don't get the wrong idea. I don't hate Sasuke. I'm only explaining the ways of Naruto and Sasuke (mainly him) on achieving power-ups. It's no wonder why I didn't feel surprised or anything. Heck, you can say this chapter is a shortcut to finally do work rather than, "Ok...I have to focus, balance chakra...." moment. So now, we learn that he will get one more soon. Look at this way, at least we got a heads-up for it. :P

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 10:51 PM

 

The only purpose this chapter served was raising the spirits of the fodder, and providing an ass pull for Sasuke so that he could be useful again. What a waste.

 

Yeah. I'm sorry I hate any chapter that gives Sasuke a free power-up. What's even weirder still is how this power never really came up til now. Did Itachi's eyes really give him that much of a boost? I mean, at least Sakura was explained with the whole "This whole time she has been focusing it." Sure, to some it seems kind of lame, but really this is worse. Guess what? Sasuke power-up out of nowhere.

 

Really it seems like just being exposed to the effects of another jutsu gives him the powers of it.

 

Sasuke is all about given. Sakura is all about hard work and patience (ironic). Naruto is all about hard work. Sure, he has the heritage blood in him but that doesn't mean he got the power-up for free. He has to earn it by working it. Sasuke is about what's there to unlock rather than finding it. Orochimaru studied him for almost 3 years, so he knows he can achieve it but of course, since Orochimaru is always ready, he will give Sasuke that powerup.

Think about everything from beginning to know. The only time he trained besides learning the basics back in the past was Chidori. Now, ever since Naruto gotten stronger than him in part 1, he seeks faster power. He gained curse seal 2 before a week pass, he gained MS and EMS, and pretty much let Sharingan do the work. When it's the last time he has to work hard to get that one technique or anything. His battle against Itachi shows his progress from part 1 to part 2 in a off-screen training. Why? Because his character is always like that. Hell, we even got Sakura learning on medic and its rules, why not know how he got Kirin. Besides, if we have to keep up the pace, he has to get it asap. Otherwise, it will drag much longer. Put it this way. For Sasuke, it's shortcut and the eyes. For Sakura, it's hard work and explanation but off-screen. For Naruto, it's hard work, explanation, demonstration, and shown on-screen.

Now don't get the wrong idea. I don't hate Sasuke. I'm only explaining the ways of Naruto and Sasuke (mainly him) on achieving power-ups. It's no wonder why I didn't feel surprised or anything. Heck, you can say this chapter is a shortcut to finally do work rather than, "Ok...I have to focus, balance chakra...." moment. So now, we learn that he will get one more soon. Look at this way, at least we got a heads-up for it. :P

 

Okay. Again, why is it for Sasuke justifiable, but people bash Sakura for it? Sasuke is a "because the plot demands it" character.

 

Why is he evil? Because the plot demands it

Why did he turn "good" again? Because the plot demands it

Why is he so hesitant in his so called "convictions?" Because the plot demands it.

Why is as powerful as Naruto without real training? Because the plot demands it.

Why was he so conveniently in the right place at the right time? Because the plot demands it.

 

As for the "heads-up," yeah we got the heads up ever since they said "He is an Uchiha." I hate Sasuke's character because of this reason and it goes far beyond than just "off-screen" development.


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