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[Chatte]

Ah shiz, I actually now read better megi's post.

Yeah, you're right. They are using the chakra differently. 

I thought at first you were talking about the chakra in the seal.

My apologies!

[Don-kun]

Chatte it seems that you're really become very passionate when it comes to Sakura, keep it up.

[redragon88]

Ah shiz, I actually now read better megi's post.

Yeah, you're right. They are using the chakra differently. 

I thought at first you were talking about the chakra in the seal.

My apologies!

 

But megi did say that Sakura and Tsunade do indeed use the chakra of the seal even when not released, albeit for different purposes.

 

Tsunade uses the seal chakra to maintain her youth and Sakura uses it to increase her strength.

 

You say that Sakura isn't using the chakra in the seal yet, but we argue that she can let some leak out in order to increase the strength of her punches.

[megi]

If Sakura is only using her base chakra now, that would mean with her regular base chakra, at beginning of part 2, without the seal, would have started her on a much higher level than Naruto and Sasuke! That's why some people were speculating if that even made any sense.

 

The seal is "released" I see it as like a piggy bank. Using moves like Souzou Saisei and 100 Strength Technique requires a lot of chakra - an amount that is larger than Tsunade's base amount of chakra handles. Because things like looking youthful and monster strength don't need to "break open" the piggy bank chakra, but can use small amounts of it at a time. 

[redragon88]

If Sakura is only using her base chakra now, that would mean with her regular base chakra, at beginning of part 2, without the seal, would have started her on a much higher level than Naruto and Sasuke! That's why some people were speculating if that even made any sense.

 

The seal is "released" I see it as like a piggy bank. Using moves like Souzou Saisei and 100 Strength Technique requires a lot of chakra - an amount that is larger than Tsunade's base amount of chakra handles. Because things like looking youthful and monster strength don't need to "break open" the piggy bank chakra, but can use small amounts of it at a time. 

 

I agree with this. It's basically the same as I explained above.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I hope she gets a 1v1 or same size fight before series ends.

[Chatte]

I still believe they don't touch the seal while they use their super-strength.

Someone @Narutoforums made a really good point.

http://www.narutofor...07&postcount=34

[Awes9]

I beg to differ. Tsunade in the end shattered alone Susano'o lvl 1.

My bad, I just reread that part and she destroyed Susanoo with one kick. Well I guess Sakura can really destroy Susanoo. That makes us stronger than most of the kage and certainly the strongest Kunoichi in the manga and she still hasn't shown all her abilities, i can't believe I would ever see that day.

Edited by Awes9, 02 June 2013 - 12:14 AM.

[Chatte]

My bad, I just reread that part and she destroyed Susanoo with one kick. Well I guess Sakura can really destroy Susanoo.

Yup, as you can see, her part was totally shattered while Onoki's and Raikage's was untouched.

 

I wonder now... does that make Sakura physically strongest character in Narutoverse?

[StriderC]

Yup, as you can see, her part was totally shattered while Onoki's and Raikage's was untouched.

 

I wonder now... does that make Sakura physically strongest character in Narutoverse?

Uhhhhhhhh... from what we've seen. HELL YEAH! Also, that link you post was a good read. The guy brought up some good points. I even addressed the fact that she's never actually run out of chakra before in the earlier pages. 

[Awes9]

Yup, as you can see, her part was totally shattered while Onoki's and Raikage's was untouched.
 
I wonder now... does that make Sakura physically strongest character in Narutoverse?

Yes and by far, I don't see any other character stronger than her, even SM Naruto hasn't shown this kind of power. The only one that could compete may be the third raikage but even then I am not so sure about that. In fact forget about it even the third hasn't shown that.

Edited by Awes9, 02 June 2013 - 12:17 AM.

[StriderC]

Yes and by far, I don't see any other character stronger than her, even SM Naruto hasn't shown this kind of power. The only one that could compete may be the third raikage but even then I am not so sure about that. In fact forget about it even the third hasn't shown that.

The third Raikage can't compete. Tsunade's stronger than he is. The only one that rivals her is Tsunade IMO. Not even Choji in big mode can do anything to her. In fact, he's just an easier target for her to take down IMO. LOL 

 

Sakura's strength goes unmatched at this point. No one has caused such an epic amount of damage with one punch in NaruVerse. She took out dozens of Ten tails clones, and this may be speculation on my part, but I'm sure those things are quite durable. 

[Chatte]

Uhhhhhhhh... from what we've seen. HELL YEAH! Also, that link you post was a good read. The guy brought up some good points. I even addressed the fact that she's never actually run out of chakra before in the earlier pages.

Exactly. That's why I am pretty sure she does not use the chakra from the seal, just her own.
Hell is not that wrong if you think at it. Look at how much stamina Kakashi gained over the time-skip. Why not Sakura when she's known to be the best at chakra control? Hiruzen wasn't from any known clan for big chakra pools, yet he was noted to have 5 in stamina.

 

 

Yes and by far, I don't see any other character stronger than her, even SM Naruto hasn't shown this kind of power. The only one that could compete may be the third raikage but even then I am not so sure about that. In fact forget about it even the third hasn't shown that.

 

Exactly. We know he was highly resistant, but nothing was shown in terms of raw strength.

Edited by Chatte, 02 June 2013 - 12:22 AM.

[megi]

I still believe they don't touch the seal while they use their super-strength.

Someone @Narutoforums made a really good point.

http://www.narutofor...07&postcount=34

 

Very good points! I wish for more clarification and hopefully will see it in the manga soon.
The question was that if Sakura truly able to attain this degree of strength if she was not charging a seal, at the beginning/along part 2? Maybe it is true!

 

Take into consideration everything, I don't even think Tsunade's strength matches Sakura's. Even if Tsunade wasn't using any chakra to look young. If the boys don't watch out they'll fall behind!

[StriderC]

Exactly. That's why I am pretty sure she does not use the chakra from the seal, just her own.
Hell is not that wrong if you think at it. Look at how much stamina Kakashi gained over the time-skip. Why not Sakura when she's known to be the best at chakra control? Hiruzen wasn't from any known clan for big chakra pools, yet he was noted to have 5 in stamina.

 

 

 

Exactly. We know he was highly resistant, but nothing was shown in terms of raw strength.

Indeed. It's quite possible that now that she has achieved gaining the seal, she's using her actual power. Look at all she's done in the war. She's mainly healed, and from what we've seen, she was in the background most of the time. She took down a Zetsu. From what we know, healing doesn't actually require much chakra, and given her track record, she's not one to completely run out of chakra easily. Her fight against Sasori proves this much, and what's more is how even under the effects of a poison, her chakra control is STILL precise. Anyway, back on topic, I feel as though she's using her own chakra at the moment and she hasn't tapped into her actual reserve yet. 

[Awes9]

Exactly. That's why I am pretty sure she does not use the chakra from the seal, just her own.
Hell is not that wrong if you think at it. Look at how much stamina Kakashi gained over the time-skip. Why not Sakura when she's known to be the best at chakra control? Hiruzen wasn't from any known clan for big chakra pools, yet he was noted to have 5 in stamina.
 
 



Exactly. We know he was highly resistant, but nothing was shown in terms of raw strength.

well I am going to be honest Kakashi's stamina is an asspull of incredible prorpotion, against Sasuke or Deidara after one kamui he was already panting and spent one week in the hospital now he spams Kamui and isn't tired at all, it's ridiculous. Sakura on the other hand makes sense, she trained for that and she has the best chakra control in the manga.

[redragon88]

I still believe they don't touch the seal while they use their super-strength.

Someone @Narutoforums made a really good point.

http://www.narutofor...07&postcount=34

 

For now it's speculation upon speculation. It doesn't feel right if she was capable of utilizing that much power from the beginning of Part 2.

 

Either creating the seal helped her get more stamina and chakra as Part 2 progressed in order to properly use such high level attacks, or she uses some part of the chakra in the seal to increase her power.

[TouKen4Life3g]

well I am going to be honest Kakashi's stamina is an asspull of incredible prorpotion, against Sasuke or Deidara after one kamui he was already panting and spent one week in the hospital now he spams Kamui and isn't tired at all, it's ridiculous. Sakura on the other hand makes sense, she trained for that and she has the best chakra control in the manga.

That's somewhat true, though to be fair, it's been so long between Rescue Gaara Arc and now. In Pain Arc, he's pretty gotten better with it but still weakens him. Now, well Sakura did recover him, so he's good again. That being said it feels like Kakashi may lose the fight to Obito because well Obito is like fighting Naruto, only different path of power. Plus, I don't know how Kamui would work if they're in the same space. So that's like removing one power of Kakashi. But if he wins, well congrats I guess.

[Atheck]

That's somewhat true, though to be fair, it's been so long between Rescue Gaara Arc and now. In Pain Arc, he's pretty gotten better with it but still weakens him. Now, well Sakura did recover him, so he's good again. That being said it feels like Kakashi may lose the fight to Obito because well Obito is like fighting Naruto, only different path of power. Plus, I don't know how Kamui would work if they're in the same space. So that's like removing one power of Kakashi. But if he wins, well congrats I guess.

 

If Tobi properly utilized all of the abilities that he should have at his disposal (Mokuton and the path powers), then Kakashi would have little hope for victory. All of his ninjutsu would be rendered ineffective and if he attempted to use taijutsu then Tobi should be capable of matching then overpowering him with Mokuton. As for Kamui, excluding the possibility of HGR somehow being capable of absorbing an interdimensional tear in the fabric of space, well it should remain usable but instead of objects or people being transported to the pocket dimension they would be returned to the regular world; it would simply be used inversely.

 

Honestly, when you really think about it, Tobi would have to be degraded if Kakashi is to have any chance of victory. The same applies to Madara as well. If they had exploited their most powerful techniques to the greatest extent that they can be used then the alliance forces would have been utterly destroyed some time ago.

[ramenanmitsu]

I still believe they don't touch the seal while they use their super-strength.

Someone @Narutoforums made a really good point.

http://www.narutofor...07&postcount=34

That's a good thread! First, I was thinking that it was going to be 99% Sakura bashing in Naruto Forums but that doesn't seem to be the case. People were discussing in a rational manner. 

 

I do like the explanations and it does make a lot of sense.