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#181 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ May 17 2013, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still don't undestand the meaning of the prophecy...

The " you will fight against a guy with a great power on his eyes..."?

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 May 2013 - 07:19 PM.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:23 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 17 2013, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The " you will fight against a guy with a great power on his eyes..."?


yep... But now Naruto's just facing 3 enemies: Madara, Obito and the Juubi O_o"

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (StriderC @ May 18 2013, 02:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's worse considering being Hokage is the furtherest thing from what Sasuke has ever wanted. If he had expressed a desire to become hokage in the beginning then sure, I'd bite but that's not the case.

His dream is to join Uchiha MP, but it shattered because uchiha massacre.
It's just like suddenly he tough about romance, after neglect many girl attempt.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (rocci @ May 17 2013, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think narusasu battle will become VOTE 2.0

@narusaku4life
Even if minato don't mention about kushisaku parallel, there still rinsaku parallel from obito, kakashi, and minato.

Naruto would surely fight to be fully acknowledged by Sasuke but would be dumb if he fights just because of that, i think the only reasonable way to have an interesting fight is to keep Sasuke evil, since Sasuke is acting really crazy we'll just have to wait to see, about the Sakura thing i'll wait and keep my expectatives low i dotn want to be trolled and i'm hoping to Kishimoto doesnt pull 616 on us.

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 17 2013, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's sadder still when you can't even decide whether a redemption is necessary or not and whether or not the main character did anything at all.



It's funny because if you think about this the manga sets up these brother bonds kind of thing, but whenever they mention this it was never about actual genetic brothers. In fact, it seems the bonds between real brothers didn't matter. It ended up being about two good friends who saw eachother as brothers: Madara and Hashirama, Naruto and Sasuke, Orochimaru and Jiraiya, Obito and Kakashi. The only true real brotherly bond expressed was Itachi and Sasuke, but other than that no other stand off involved actual brothers.

Yes impossible to decide either way.
The Uchihas seems to be the ones who got hurt the most with bonds good to remember that it was Itachi so he doesnt love Sakura because if he loved her he would not be capable of killing her previously.
I remember that he said he would keep the story exciting which is what he's doing lately putting a lot of things on the air, first was Hinata(NH canon??? got trolled hard)Obito(motives), then later Kakashi(truth about Rin), Sasuke(possible redemption), Kages(coming to the battle), Minato(Interaction with Naruto), Sakura(being shown as a heroine(Hopes to not get trolled with SS moments that would surely kitten up her moment), and so on....

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 May 2013 - 07:30 PM.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:31 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 17 2013, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's true. I just hope this whole thing turns out good (you know what I mean). I mean so far, this volume has been going well as well as new answers (truth behind Obito's reason and Rin's fate), so I hope things can only get better with confirming about Sasuke still not fully done as well as the fight with Naruto will happen. I hope everything gets handled well.


Plankton Sasuke: *cries* It's true, I originally was going to steal the Krabby Patty forumla destroy Konoha, but then you showed me kindness and friendship and I changed my ways.

Spongebob Naruto: "Really?"

Plankton Sasuke: "No, not really. Being evil is too much fun."
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (rocci @ May 17 2013, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think narusasu battle will become VOTE 2.0

@narusaku4life
Even if minato don't mention about kushisaku parallel, there still rinsaku parallel from obito, kakashi, and minato.

Oh I know, it's just that there are so many ways to happen that it's crazy. I'll play the waiting game.


QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 17 2013, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Plankton Sasuke: *cries* It's true, I originally was going to steal the Krabby Patty forumla destroy Konoha, but then you showed me kindness and friendship and I changed my ways.

Spongebob Naruto: "Really?"

Plankton Sasuke: "No, not really. Being evil is too much fun."

Lol. laugh.gif

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 17 May 2013 - 07:34 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ May 18 2013, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yep... But now Naruto's just facing 3 enemies: Madara, Obito and the Juubi O_o"

I think it's confirm by naruto himself that he will fight a youth with great eye power aka sasuke. Whether it mean naruto misinterpret it or it true, we need to wait biggrin.gif

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Yes it good to have low expectation because this kishi, but I think if kishi don't focus narusaku it still understandable because we get two events in one chapter first kakashi vs obito and jubi fight.
But I'm confident that we will get a some kind of NS confirmation, because we will see obito redemption soon and it will mention rin and who is rin this generation?


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ May 17 2013, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yep... But now Naruto's just facing 3 enemies: Madara, Obito and the Juubi O_o"

I think the whole point of this battle is trying to throw us off to think that Naruto is fighting the one with evil eyes. It could turn out to be Sasuke for all we know.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:57 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 17 2013, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the whole point of this battle is trying to throw us off to think that Naruto is fighting the one with evil eyes. It could turn out to be Sasuke for all we know.

- YOU WILL FIGHT AGAINST SOMEOME WITH A GREAT POWER ON THE EYES AND WILL... GET THE GIRL YOU LOVE. (Great Sage Toad/Kishimoto)

QUOTE (rocci @ May 17 2013, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's confirm by naruto himself that he will fight a youth with great eye power aka sasuke. Whether it mean naruto misinterpret it or it true, we need to wait biggrin.gif

@darkrest
Yes it good to have low expectation because this kishi, but I think if kishi don't focus narusaku it still understandable because we get two events in one chapter first kakashi vs obito and jubi fight.
But I'm confident that we will get a some kind of NS confirmation, because we will see obito redemption soon and it will mention rin and who is rin this generation?

Yes, 630 wanst romantic for NS btw like 615 also wanst romantic for NH but the implication is if Naruto and Sakura were to end as just friends why to make her further and further to fully understand him and be the person who are watching his road to greatness, if it's not canon then would be so dumb and so much wasted development...
Well to continue, Minato went there with a reason and she was the first that realized that Minato is Naruto's father, potential for "confirmation" for me it's already confirmed the implicancy is the fact she keeps being the one who understand Naruto the most, Hinata didnt get close, she got "nerfed" and was shown wavering and didnt get the purpose of Naruto's speech, only Sakura.
It implies more development for NS romantically or not it's up for interpretation but if it keeps like this then Kishimoto would be surely a bad writer if he doesnt make NS canon, there's no reason to keep Sakura with this development(unless if he has the intention to make NS canon) and also make Karin and Ino still loves Sasuke, notice that Karin doenst even has a big/medium fanclub and still gets more fanservice than NH had.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 17 May 2013 - 08:07 PM.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 17 2013, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
- YOU WILL FIGHT AGAINST SOMEOME WITH A GREAT POWER ON THE EYES AND WILL... GET THE GIRL YOU LOVE. (Great Sage Toad/Kishimoto)

Actually I'm very curious what the toad sage was gonna to say after Naruto interrupted him... I would like to give credit to your version but it's maybe a little fictional laugh.gif

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:10 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 17 2013, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the whole point of this battle is trying to throw us off to think that Naruto is fighting the one with evil eyes. It could turn out to be Sasuke for all we know.


But isn't he turning good? It does say "evil eyes" not "Don't-know-whether-I am-evil-or-not eyes"

(BTW, I am poking fun at something, I think you know what)

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE (六道仙人 @ May 17 2013, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually I'm very curious what the toad sage was gonna to say after Naruto interrupted him... I would like to give credit to your version but it's maybe a little fictional laugh.gif

That was pretty good.

I think he may say either Sasuke would win or Naruto would win.

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 17 2013, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But isn't he turning good? It does say "evil eyes" not "Don't-know-whether-I am-evil-or-not eyes"

(BTW, I am poking fun at something, I think you know what)

Well, the prophecy can be wrong, or at least Kishi wants to asspull the prophecy. Yeah, I said it. tongue.gif

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE (TrueSacrifice @ May 17 2013, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not very likely. Stories don't operate on luck or circumstance. Kishimoto has placed her there for a reason. The exact nature of that reason is unknown as of yet, but I am sure it has to do with the relationship between Naruto and Sakura, romantic or otherwise.


The author does not operate on luck or circumstance albeit some of their presented material may have been circumstantially unexplored after presenting it (the sand priest's soul allegation to explain the origins of Shukaku and Kabuto's red eyes back in P1 are two examples of this). I'm looking at events that have transpired in the manga exclusively from the perspective of someone who would be part of that universe. But one could make the argument that the fan base chooses to over exaggerate the significance of particular panels or misinterpret the context that Kishimoto intended for that scene. Although things may appear favourable at the moment from our perspective we should prepare ourselves for the worst. It lessens the shock of those undesired developments should they actually occur. That point has already been made numerous times before though; it just sounds like an unnecessary reiteration when analyzing it.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:30 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 17 2013, 12:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the prophecy can be wrong, or at least Kishi wants to asspull the prophecy. Yeah, I said it. tongue.gif




Okay, just kidding, but I mean we have what at least 3 enemies with these "eyes" and the one the prophecy is supposed to be about, we think, is the only one who isn't really evil yet? That's weird. You can't tell me that Sasuke is more evil than Madara and Obito at the moment.
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:32 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 17 2013, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Okay, just kidding, but I mean we have what at least 3 enemies with these "eyes" and the one the prophecy is supposed to be about, we think, is the only one who isn't really evil yet? That's weird. You can't tell me that Sasuke is more evil than Madara and Obito at the moment.

That's true, but you never know what happens next. I guess that's where the waiting game comes in.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:34 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ May 17 2013, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's true, but you never know what happens next. I guess that's where the waiting game comes in.


This either will be the greatest thing ever written or the worst disappointment since the Titanic.
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 17 2013, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Okay, just kidding, but I mean we have what at least 3 enemies with these "eyes" and the one the prophecy is supposed to be about, we think, is the only one who isn't really evil yet? That's weird. You can't tell me that Sasuke is more evil than Madara and Obito at the moment.

The sadder part is who's evil here?
We saw Obito who's not that evil, Madara who has shown that he had good intentions...
yeah just like your opinion, maybe Orochimaru can take that role but it would not make any sense.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 17 2013, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The sadder part is who's evil here?
We saw Obito who's not that evil, Madara who has shown that he had good intentions...
yeah just like your opinion, maybe Orochimaru can take that role but it would not make any sense.


Now we are going into a territory where nothing is black or white. Just shades of gray.

You have wonder, where is the line drawn?

Although now that I think about it, how can Sasuke or anyone for that matter cross the line if there is no line drawn?
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ May 17 2013, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now we are going into a territory where nothing is black or white. Just shades of gray.

You have wonder, where is the line drawn?

Although now that I think about it, how can Sasuke or anyone for that matter cross the line if there is no line drawn?

When Sasuke tried to kill Sakura and Kakashi said that Sasuke has crossed the line literally.
Jokes aside.
I feel that Sasuke was the one who crossed the line on the summit arc when he tried to kill Karin sadly he made the reunition with Karin after the stuff a comedic moment, which makes me wonder why keeps making Karin to love Sasuke, i feel that he did that to make NS more stronger.
There are other two girl besides Sakura, Ino has the speech from Asuma(telling her to not lose to Sakura) Karin( is a uzumaki and seems to be more closer than Sasuke and understand him) also for Sakura he kept shoving at her face that her love for Sasuke is bad and she has to move on/love someome else like he also did with Rin and the suspense is that we will never know if she kept loving Kakashi or not.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (Dαrkrєrsŧ @ May 17 2013, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When Sasuke tried to kill Sakura and Kakashi said that Sasuke has crossed the line literally.
Jokes aside.
I feel that Sasuke was the one who crossed the line on the summit arc when he tried to kill Karin sadly he made the reunition with Karin after the stuff a comedic moment, which makes me wonder why keeps making Karin to love Sasuke, i feel that he did that to make NS more stronger.
There are other two girl besides Sakura, Ino has the speech from Asuma(telling her to not lose to Sakura) Karin( is a uzumaki and seems to be more closer than Sasuke and understand him) also for Sakura he kept shoving at her face that her love for Sasuke is bad and she has to move on/love someome else like he also did with Rin and the suspense is that we will never know if she kept loving Kakashi or not.


I swear the more we talk about this the more I am inclined to believe that Sasuke is an asspull generator as he has been the part of or created nearly every asspull in this entire manga. Heck, I could even argue his existence is an asspull in itself as his sole purpose was just to be the rival.
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