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[swagosaurus]

I want more people to die. Messed up, I know, but seriously. What happened to the 'oh kitten' moments from way back in Part 1?

EVERY villain was scary in that part. It's a shame they aren't that frightening nowadays (besides the Jubi. That thing is freaky.)

Madara is just a baller, and Obito is insane.

[Branden]

Did you see that panel where Naruto was fanboying over Neji? It's almost as if Kishi is purposefully trying to make Yaoi fans happy.

EDIT:
Okay I probobly should have read the entire chapter before posting, but regardless that was one hell of an ending. Neji is finally free! FREE!
Shame to any NejiHina fans out there...

Edited by Branden, 18 December 2012 - 07:51 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Sorry, when I think SS in the future, I'm honestly expecting it to be something coming from Sasuke...where he reaches out to her in a ploy to manipulate, but for her, it's could be seen as a moment of choice.

However, I think she's already made her choice, so Kishi couldn't go back to that. It would be hard to have more misty mooning over profile shots of Sasuke. No I think SS is going to come back in a way that is least expected. An appearance of SS. Like if he reached out to her. Or if she had to heal him and everyone around including the Rookies (and especially Ino) said 'Awe, it was meant to be....' But we (and Sakura) knew the truth about who she really cared for.

Anyway, I completely agree. SS is no good for Sakura and I don't think it will be presented as a true development for her character. Instead I think it will be presented as the appearance of SS, just to make the audience believe that she still hasn't made her choice.

Why sasuke would try to manipulate her if he got his own team, sasuke is not alone, and moreover you almost said "something coming from sasuke" this implies SS?
It's the same thing as Sakura getting a major spotlight and something comes from Sakura and you say "NS Moment?", like i said before i too expect something from sasuke but not on a romantic way but something that made her think once and for all that sasuke is not a good choice for her, like he making clearly that he wants the control of the world like madara or something else, and made her at least once and she disagree with him and says that it's wrong and she made a choice like he's not a good guy to be with, before she did not understand both naruto and sasuke her development would be like this, she standing at naruto's side not because he's more than her friend but also because of the narutism.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

I'm sorry...I just had to.


Great and sad chapter today.

[Branden]

In honor of Neji let us all listen to his theme song and remember what a misunderstood and complex character he was!


EDIT: aparently embedding was disabled on the last one

Edited by Branden, 18 December 2012 - 07:55 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

In honor of Neji let us all listen to his theme song and remember what a misunderstood and complex character he was!

I prefer to say underdeveloped and forgotten.

[{Jade~Rabbit}]

Did you see that panel where Naruto was fanboying over Neji? It's almost as if Kishi is purposefully trying to make Yaoi fans happy.

EDIT:
Okay I probobly should have read the entire chapter before posting, but regardless that was one hell of an ending. Neji is finally free! FREE!
Shame to any NejiHina fans out there...

Lol, I'm a NejiHina fan and I'm not sad at all for the two. He looked her in the eye as he died and Hinata's ready to fall apart. Hell, he jumped in front of her to protect her from death (she was going to jump in front of Naruto and take the blow).

My heart is aching at the beauty.

[Branden]

I want more people to die. Messed up, I know, but seriously. What happened to the 'oh kitten' moments from way back in Part 1?

EVERY villain was scary in that part. It's a shame they aren't that frightening nowadays (besides the Jubi. That thing is freaky.)

Madara is just a baller, and Obito is insane.

Well, yeah this villain can be scary if it legit starts killing people we care about, but what characters do we all truely have an emotional investment in? Jiraiya was one of them, so was Kakashi. But who else? Do we even care that much about the rookies? I mean they were cool and all but really I think Lee is the one who I care about the most simply because of his backstory and struggle with ninjutsu. After that it would be inashikacho and the now deceased Neji.

Sorry for the comparison here but if it were the final ark in one piece and the straw hat crew started dieing then we would be literally terrified at whoever the villain was. So who are you worried about in this arc that makes you terrified at this villain.

[swagosaurus]

Well, yeah this villain can be scary if it legit starts killing people we care about, but what characters do we all truely have an emotional investment in? Jiraiya was one of them, so was Kakashi. But who else? Do we even care that much about the rookies? I mean they were cool and all but really I think Lee is the one who I care about the most simply because of his backstory and struggle with ninjutsu. After that it would be inashikacho and the now deceased Neji.

Sorry for the comparison here but if it were the final ark in one piece and the straw hat crew started dieing then we would be literally terrified at whoever the villain was. So who are you worried about in this arc that makes you terrified at this villain.

Sakura. Obito wants to cause despair; if he finds out Naruto's bond with Sakura, he could go for her.

If he does figure that out, then I'll be scared.

Edited by swagosaurus, 18 December 2012 - 08:04 PM.

[KnS]

I can't speak for everyone. For myself, I read the manga because I like it, not just for shipping wars. Though some seem to read it just for the pairings as they blatantly jump if even one character sneezes in the other's direction. I like the pairing, but not so involved as to take every frame as a pro- or con-.

Same here. I personally find all the hysteria and relentless criticism to be exhausting, but that's me. I prefer to enjoy the ride, take the story as Kishimoto wants to tell it, and wait to see what happens. The plot is obviously in high gear with a lot left to be resolved. I don't understand reaching such negative conclusions before the story is even finished.

As for the chapter, I really can't add much to what I said on the spoiler thread. Even before the chapter was released I said Neji's death -- the way it appeared to be written -- would be good for Hinata's development and would be a catalyst for forcing her to move forward and beyond her single-minded crush on Naruto, and I'm sticking to it. Hinata stands to be justified as a worthy character in a way she likely would not have if this hadn't happened or happened in this way. She now has a greater purpose.

If you think about it, Hinata's big claim to fame -- her willingness to die for Naruto -- was sort of neutralized by Neji's sacrifice. Neji proved that self-sacrifice for others -- for Naruto and his importance -- doesn't just belong to Hinata.

And I believe Tricksie is absolutely right about Sakura's involvement being held in reserve. It's not time for her yet.

[PhenixElite]

Sorry, when I think SS in the future, I'm honestly expecting it to be something coming from Sasuke...where he reaches out to her in a ploy to manipulate, but for her, it's could be seen as a moment of choice.

However, I think she's already made her choice, so Kishi couldn't go back to that. It would be hard to have more misty mooning over profile shots of Sasuke. No I think SS is going to come back in a way that is least expected. An appearance of SS. Like if he reached out to her. Or if she had to heal him and everyone around including the Rookies (and especially Ino) said 'Awe, it was meant to be....' But we (and Sakura) knew the truth about who she really cared for.

Anyway, I completely agree. SS is no good for Sakura and I don't think it will be presented as a true development for her character. Instead I think it will be presented as the appearance of SS, just to make the audience believe that she still hasn't made her choice.

I can also think of a moment where we nearly loose all hope on NS but in the end NS will WIN.

[Smiter]

Damn. Rest in peace, Neji.

I really think that Neji's death will be permanent, to serve as a powerful lesson to Naruto that his own life is precious and that everyone else is willing to give their lives to protect him. Before, Naruto was a bit cavalier with his own life when it came to Sasuke. Now, with the weight of Neji's sacrifice and the deaths of Inoichi and Shikaku, plus all those nameless shinobi that died, Naruto will hopefully not be so free with throwing away his own life.

Kishimoto resurrected the village after Pain's attack because there were so many characters that died, but I'm sure that Neji will remain dead because it was a powerful moment. Resurrection would just render his sacrifice meaningless.

Can't wait for the next chapter.

[Jake]

yes there will be chapter next week
12/22

then the next will be at

01/04

http://adnavi.shueis...ule/w_jump.html

there will be no break they just extended.
actually there will be a 2 week break after 01/04 then it gets back at 01/21.

The 22nd is later this week not next week.

[Gravenimage]

but some NH fantard said ithat :/

Well it saddens me that you will believe a NH fan. If a NH fan says the sky is red would you believe its true???

[Slextrem]

I would really like to see a Neji dedication in the anime before they get to this chapter, even if it's just filler. His death came out of no where in the manga. I feel like he deserved a little more screen-time.

[Toasty Warrior]

Man... what a heartbreaking chapter... Kishimoto sure knows how to ruin the holidays, but there's always a purpose behind everyone's death, so maybe this will strength Naruto's resolve even more or cause him to get green eyes, shout really loud and suddenly get a golden aura...

[candycane-chan]

I would really like to see a Neji dedication in the anime before they get to this chapter, even if it's just filler. His death came out of no where in the manga. I feel like he deserved a little more screen-time.

thank you for talking about something other then NH
I totally agree with you He just kept him in the shadows for so long. His death shouldn't have took so little number of panels. But the bird was what sealed the deal for me, he's dead and never coming back.

[swagosaurus]

I kind of wish he died like this.



His death was sad...but kind of rushed/not really powerful. :/

[merryGOflava]

well okay then....
.....neji died...

well i guess that explains why we got so much hyuuga attention these last chapters.

[Slextrem]

His death was sad...but kind of rushed/not really powerful. :/

Despite it being rushed, I still feel that it was a powerful moment. He died with a purpose. The branch members of his clan dedicate their lives to protecting those of the main branch. He gave his life to save their heiress, fulfilling his duty as a member of the branch clan, which I think was very noble. Part of me also feels that his death was a waste, but I digress... In the end, he was able to save the two people that meant the most to him, plus he was finally able to understand the actions of his father. It was a very heroic moment.