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[Super Boom]

As of now I believe NaruSaku = 30% chance SasuSaku = 70% chance, that'll change over the many more chapters Kishi plans to torture us with. And for those who wanna say something about "Oh wow this is a damn action story don't get so caught up." This is a damn club for this pairing, let people get emotional if they want to! If it gets outta hand tell them wasup. But don't bash members character bashing is bad enough here guys. I'm sad with this turn of events too, but don't start attacking eachother cause of it.

Wow, those are some insane percentages, considering it was ONE PANEL. No offense, but I think you're really jumping to conclusions. It's not like she was happy to be in love with Sasuke. It's not like she's come to terms with her love for him, leaving it up to Naruto to bring him back. In fact, the more I analyze it, the more I think this could help our pairing in the future. Think about it, the love letter ninja served no purpose other than to remind her of her love for Sasuke, a love she LAMENTS. The fact of the matter is that she's distressed about being in love with Sasuke. If the point of this scene is to remind us that she loves Sasuke, then don't you think Kishi is being a little redundant? It seems obvious to me that this isn't a stand-alone scene. Sakura will have to finally resolve these feelings that are distressing her, feelings that she clearly hasn't come to terms with.

I'd also like to point out something interesting I've noticed throughout the manga. Everytime we see SS and NH take a step forward, NS takes ten steps forward shortly afterwards. Observe:

1.) Sakura confesses her love to Sasuke. Sasuke thanks her, but leaves anyway.
Naruto then promises to bring him back, and Sakura realizes Naruto understands her more then anyone else.

2.) Sakura punches Sai out after badmouthing Sasuke.
Yamato later comments that Sakura's feelings for Naruto are more than that of friendship.

3.) Hinata confesses her love to Naruto. Pain 'kills' her, and Naruto goes berserk.
Naruto comes back and Sakura gives Naruto the sexiest hug in the series thus far.

4.) Sakura 'fakes' a confession to Naruto. Sai tells him she wants to kill Sasuke because she loves him.
Naruto saves Sakura from Sasuke in a very symbolic scene (see Minato's rescue of Kushina).

5.) Sakura thinks of Sasuke after reflecting on someone else she likes.
[insert best NaruSaku moment ever here]

[TheBerserkMoogle]

Well, the way I see it is you can't really use anything as proof for anything anymore. From what I can tell, Kishi's one of those writers who REALLY likes to keep people guessing. One day he'll throw in proof for this pairing, next he'll throw in proof of this one. To be honest, I think he's just using one of the oldest tricks in the book. He knows that Naruto has a HUGE romantic fanbase so he's playing with it to keep people coming back and reading more, because they really want to know what will be the official pairing. I bet you the only time any one will find out what the real pairing is will be at the very end.

[sardns]

Alright, it's about time I got home. I've been making my posts all on my Android Phone today. (So annoying when I have so much to say /).-)

I apologize for my earlier panic and rage haha. It seems I'm not the only one though. Good job though people, on getting others to calm down. I must say, that spoiler really juked us out and made us panic and whatnot. We didn't see the picture, only the script, so we had no idea that she was looking all depressed when she thought of Sasuke. However, I really don't think that changed much.

Sasuke is on her mind, and that really shattered my image of her telling Naruto "I love you" to be truthful. I'm sure she does love Naruto, but not in the romantic way. Many claim that Sakura only thought of Sasuke because she used to love him (in that panel) but really stop being in denial you all have to face that facts that Sakura is MADLY in love with Sasuke!!! I hate to admit it! Really! I'm a die hard NaruSaku fan and I love everything about it, but it's the truth.

I love this forum and all... but one thing I noticed, was a tool that most of you used to appease the panicers, which was overanalyzing that one panel. Some things just have to be taken at face-value and you needa suck it up and face the facts. Our personal bias really gets in the way... And an over analyzed aspect was when people claim that panel to be an exampleof Sakura transitioning to loving Naruto. Uh people... Naruto was no where in that whole entire page

I just think that most of us over anaylze and hold way too much hope in our hearts sometimes. Kishimoto isn't a perfect writer, and neither are we perfect. Please don't treat the panicers like they're some disgusting humans. You're human too. I paniced too. We all got emotionally involved and some got attached to this couple too! It actually makes me happy to see such devoted people to this pairing, cause it's something I enjoy supporting, following and discussing too. Another reason we shouldn't analyze so much is because you don't want to falsely raise the hopes of others. I think the reason that we all paniced and havoc was released in that certain spoiler discussion was because we all beat the crap out of all the moments and debatable topics back in the Great Narusaku Debate Thread. Seriously, I stopped posting there and grew tired of all the overdone and sometimes unbelievable things people added into moments and thoughts and whatnot that made me really say "Really? You're making up stuff now to further support this couple?" I'd love to rant about how this couple world work, but when people starting using material and make up crap that isn't even IN the manga... I have to draw the line and I wouldn't want to plant false information in our community.

So I beg of you NaruSaku fanclub, don't overanalyze every damn thing that Sakura thinks of that has to do with Sasuke or Naruto. If it's Sasuke she loves, it's Sasuke she loves... It makes me depressed I know, but if you ever need other nice romantic anime/ecchi/harem/drama just ask me, I assure you it'll take away your depression or get your mind off this (in some's opinion) fail-turd-manga pairing/story.

I can see where those people who want to abandon this manga come from. It's so frustrating. Kishi has been playing marry go round with all these pairings and it only makes them look bad.

If you got anything to say to me about how this was an up or positive turn for NaruSaku please.
Do so.

I really can't see how you can show that to me while sounding neutral. It'll only sound bias if you ask me.

As of now I believe NaruSaku = 30% chance SasuSaku = 70% chance, that'll change over the many more chapters Kishi plans to torture us with. And for those who wanna say something about "Oh wow this is a damn action story don't get so caught up." This is a damn club for this pairing, let people get emotional if they want to! If it gets outta hand tell them wasup. But don't bash members character bashing is bad enough here guys. I'm sad with this turn of events too, but don't start attacking eachother cause of it.

yeah, I agree with you (and you're not overreacting btw). Not trying to offend anyone, but Yoshimoya is right; some people are definitely over analyzing. Hell, I hope the over-analysts are right, but sometimes you have to take something for what it is at face value.

[Fliss]

Ahh you guys are giving me hope again That's why I love it here <3

Edited by Fliss, 26 May 2011 - 02:40 AM.

[Master Sage]

Alright, it's about time I got home. I've been making my posts all on my Android Phone today. (So annoying when I have so much to say /).-)

I apologize for my earlier panic and rage haha. It seems I'm not the only one though. Good job though people, on getting others to calm down. I must say, that spoiler really juked us out and made us panic and whatnot. We didn't see the picture, only the script, so we had no idea that she was looking all depressed when she thought of Sasuke. However, I really don't think that changed much.

Sasuke is on her mind, and that really shattered my image of her telling Naruto "I love you" to be truthful. I'm sure she does love Naruto, but not in the romantic way. Many claim that Sakura only thought of Sasuke because she used to love him (in that panel) but really stop being in denial you all have to face that facts that Sakura is MADLY in love with Sasuke!!! I hate to admit it! Really! I'm a die hard NaruSaku fan and I love everything about it, but it's the truth.

I love this forum and all... but one thing I noticed, was a tool that most of you used to appease the panicers, which was overanalyzing that one panel. Some things just have to be taken at face-value and you needa suck it up and face the facts. Our personal bias really gets in the way... And an over analyzed aspect was when people claim that panel to be an exampleof Sakura transitioning to loving Naruto. Uh people... Naruto was no where in that whole entire page

I just think that most of us over anaylze and hold way too much hope in our hearts sometimes. Kishimoto isn't a perfect writer, and neither are we perfect. Please don't treat the panicers like they're some disgusting humans. You're human too. I paniced too. We all got emotionally involved and some got attached to this couple too! It actually makes me happy to see such devoted people to this pairing, cause it's something I enjoy supporting, following and discussing too. Another reason we shouldn't analyze so much is because you don't want to falsely raise the hopes of others. I think the reason that we all paniced and havoc was released in that certain spoiler discussion was because we all beat the crap out of all the moments and debatable topics back in the Great Narusaku Debate Thread. Seriously, I stopped posting there and grew tired of all the overdone and sometimes unbelievable things people added into moments and thoughts and whatnot that made me really say "Really? You're making up stuff now to further support this couple?" I'd love to rant about how this couple world work, but when people starting using material and make up crap that isn't even IN the manga... I have to draw the line and I wouldn't want to plant false information in our community.

So I beg of you NaruSaku fanclub, don't overanalyze every damn thing that Sakura thinks of that has to do with Sasuke or Naruto. If it's Sasuke she loves, it's Sasuke she loves... It makes me depressed I know, but if you ever need other nice romantic anime/ecchi/harem/drama just ask me, I assure you it'll take away your depression or get your mind off this (in some's opinion) fail-turd-manga pairing/story.

I can see where those people who want to abandon this manga come from. It's so frustrating. Kishi has been playing marry go round with all these pairings and it only makes them look bad.

If you got anything to say to me about how this was an up or positive turn for NaruSaku please.
Do so.

I really can't see how you can show that to me while sounding neutral. It'll only sound bias if you ask me.

As of now I believe NaruSaku = 30% chance SasuSaku = 70% chance, that'll change over the many more chapters Kishi plans to torture us with. And for those who wanna say something about "Oh wow this is a damn action story don't get so caught up." This is a damn club for this pairing, let people get emotional if they want to! If it gets outta hand tell them wasup. But don't bash members character bashing is bad enough here guys. I'm sad with this turn of events too, but don't start attacking eachother cause of it.

Can i say that this post was full of win?

Kishimoto: trolling us since 1999

Lol seriously though i really did panic myself when i saw Sakura think of Sasuke at that first part. I came here to see if i could find any hope for our pairing. To tell ya the truth i actually thought that Narusaku was looking slim for a bit. However i knew a huge part of me was saying "don't ever give up on teh Narusaku goodness"

Anyways i know that Naruto was probably not on Sakura's mind at all. However He was in Hinata's (i still question why she is still being shown but eh whatever) I think that Sakura was just thinking if Sasuke truly was that one heck of a good guy. Well by the look of her face i'm sure she already knows now that Sasuke has changed but Sakura still just can't move away from that small part of herself that still cares for Sasuke. I know this will be resolved at the beginning of the Naruto vs Sasuke fight. It wouldn't be right if it happened just at the end of the war. I think when Naruto is making his last conversation with Sakura she will notice that it truly will be the last conversation she will have with him focusing back to when Naruto said that both he and Sasuke will die. Sakura will soon realize that this means no more fun times with Naruto, and he will be gone forever. The rest is history

Oh no i went to prediction mode again. ANYWAY i really can't wait till nest week to see some Hokage vs jinchuriki action yeahhhhh

Edited by Master Sage, 26 May 2011 - 02:46 AM.

[Paptala]

Wow, those are some insane percentages, considering it was ONE PANEL. No offense, but I think you're really jumping to conclusions. It's not like she was happy to be in love with Sasuke. It's not like she's come to terms with her love for him, leaving it up to Naruto to bring him back. In fact, the more I analyze it, the more I think this could help our pairing in the future. Think about it, the love letter ninja served no purpose other than to remind her of her love for Sasuke, a love she LAMENTS. The fact of the matter is that she's distressed about being in love with Sasuke. If the point of this scene is to remind us that she loves Sasuke, then don't you think Kishi is being a little redundant? It seems obvious to me that this isn't a stand-alone scene. Sakura will have to finally resolve these feelings that are distressing her, feelings that she clearly hasn't come to terms with.

I'd also like to point out something interesting I've noticed throughout the manga. Everytime we see SS and NH take a step forward, NS takes ten steps forward shortly afterwards. Observe:

1.) Sakura confesses her love to Sasuke. Sasuke thanks her, but leaves anyway.
Naruto then promises to bring him back, and Sakura realizes Naruto understands her more then anyone else.

2.) Sakura punches Sai out after badmouthing Sasuke.
Yamato later comments that Sakura's feelings for Naruto are more than that of friendship.

3.) Hinata confesses her love to Naruto. Pain 'kills' her, and Naruto goes berserk.
Naruto comes back and Sakura gives Naruto the sexiest hug in the series thus far.

4.) Sakura 'fakes' a confession to Naruto. Sai tells him she wants to kill Sasuke because she loves him.
Naruto saves Sakura from Sasuke in a very symbolic scene (see Minato's rescue of Kushina).

5.) Sakura thinks of Sasuke after reflecting on someone else she likes.
[insert best NaruSaku moment ever here]

Agreeing with this - this is one of the major reasons that I'm simply going to see where this goes.

Yes, it looks very bad right now.

But it could definitely take a turn for the better in the future.

Sakura may have romantic feelings for Sasuke right now, but she certainly doesn't seem to want them. If this is Sakura's year, her time to shine, then maybe it's not too unrealistic to theorize that this is the beginning of her sorting through her muddled emotions and completely moving on from her romantic love for Sasuke, which has almost always, especially in part 2, been presented in a negative light.

Not to mention that Naruto is still madly in love with Sakura. If Sakura being confirmed to be in love with Sasuke gives SS such headway, then Naruto loving Sakura must give their pairing a similar headway. At least Naruto is not constantly being shown being depressed over the fact that he's in love with Sakura, unlike Sakura every time her feelings for Sasuke in part two have come up (which the exception of punching Sai for badmouthing him).

Edited by Paptala, 26 May 2011 - 02:44 AM.

[merryGOflava]

umm......i just read from another translation...from mangareader.net and im not sure if thats the true translation or not....

but in the panel where the Love-nin talks he says " but theres one thing i know....if its somebody you like then they are bound to be a great person"

does this change anything??? O.o is mangareader not reliable?? cause this translation sounds.....well, better?

Edited by merryGOflava, 26 May 2011 - 02:43 AM.

[Fliss]

umm......i just read from another translation...from mangareader.net and im not sure if thats the true translation or not....

but in the panel where the Love-nin talks he says " but theres one thing i know....if its somebody you like then they are bound to be a great person"

does this change anything??? O.o is mangareader not reliable?? cause this translation sounds.....well, better?

Wow that would definitely alter things in my opinion.
Which one is more correct, I wonder?

[Living Lavish]

Agreeing with this - this is one of the major reasons that I'm simply going to see where this goes.

Yes, it looks very bad right now.

But it could definitely take a turn for the better in the future.

Sakura may have romantic feelings for Sasuke right now, but she certainly doesn't seem to want them. If this is Sakura's year, her time to shine, then maybe it's not too unrealistic to theorize that this is the beginning of her sorting through her muddled emotions and completely moving on from her romantic love for Sasuke, which has almost always, especially in part 2, been presented in a negative light.

Not to mention that Naruto is still madly in love with Sakura. If Sakura being confirmed to be in love with Sasuke gives SS such headway, then Naruto loving Sakura must give their pairing a similar headway. At least Naruto is not constantly being shown being depressed over the fact that he's in love with Sakura, unlike Sakura every time her feelings for Sasuke in part two have come up (which the exception of punching Sai for badmouthing him).

i know shes not in love yet
but do you still believe her feelings for Naruto are romantic? like more then a friend.

Edited by Living Lavish, 26 May 2011 - 02:47 AM.

[merryGOflava]

Wow that would definitely alter things in my opinion.
Which one is more correct, I wonder?

i dont know??? but the one i found sounds more....believable huh?

maybe i should ask my japanese teacher to read a raw version XDDD

[MangaReader]

Ahh you guys are giving me hope again That's why I love it here <3

That's great news to hear and from my vast knowledge, here's a quote:Follow down the path you choose, cause the light you produce shall light the darkness This mainly means nothing can break you hope if you believe hard enough

[merryGOflava]

now that i read the translation i found i feel happier X3 my narusaku faith is ALIVE!!!! :o until proven wrong lol

[Super Boom]

yeah, I agree with you (and you're not overreacting btw). Not trying to offend anyone, but Yoshimoya is right; some people are definitely over analyzing. Hell, I hope the over-analysts are right, but sometimes you have to take something for what it is at face value.

Here's the thing though. Take it at face value and the point is that Sakura doesn't like having feelings for Sasuke. Earlier on, I've heard SasuSaku fans claim she had come to terms with loving him after their confrontation in the Kage Summit Arc. Well this scene clearly states otherwise. Based on previous build-up, the fact remains that her feelings ARE changing. It's just a lot slower than we want.
The bottom line is that this one panel that everyone's freaking out over just proves two things.

1.) Sakura has lingering feelings for Sasuke.
2.) She is distressed by those feelings.

There, that's a neutral perspective, no over-analyzing. Does that look like SasuSaku to anyone?

[Sakura Blossoms]

All Sasuke would have to do is say "Woo, Sakura be looking fine, Imma holla." I'd like to see Naruto get in the way, but, eh.

I'd have to disagree with your "Sasuke does not and seemingly cannot 'love' anyone" the reason he's a nutjob was because of love. SasuSaku has been, and will remain for some time a threat.

I'm sorry. We're just going to have to agree to wildly disagree. These two statements are fairy ridiculous to me, sorry. One, it is not and never has been Sasuke's nature to 'holla' at a girl. For his character to pull a complete 360 like that, would make the manga and Kishimoto's skill at writing it laughable. And two, SasuSaku can not be a threat if there is no pairing to begin with. One sided love/affection =/= a threatening canon pairing.

[Fliss]

i dont know??? but the one i found sounds more....believable huh?

maybe i should ask my japanese teacher to read a raw version XDDD

Yeah it certainly does.
Haha I should ask mine as well!

That's great news to hear and from my vast knowledge, here's a quote:Follow down the path you choose, cause the light you produce shall light the darkness This mainly means nothing can break you hope if you believe hard enough

Yesss I think I will always believe in NaruSaku even if it doesnt become canon (impossible!) ahaha

[NuclearRaven]

This chapter is proof of SasuSaku. Sakura knows about Naruto's feelings and has still chosen Sasuke over him. NaruSaku cannot happen.

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[Fyuria'sLeo]

With all that rage from this panel I had I think im in for a little sleeping time.

[MangaReader]

now that i read the translation i found i feel happier X3 my narusaku faith is ALIVE!!!! :o until proven wrong lol

I don't think it was ever dead, maybe it hit a road bump, but far from dead, besides, how was this different from 437 and 482? No different I say, this thorn shall be removed sometime soon

[merryGOflava]

this better not be sakura's only fight.....

[Fliss]

this better not be sakura's only fight.....

It was kind of a short lived fight, at that. Hmm I hope she gets one as amazing as her battle with Sasori