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#181 dokueki(venom)

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 04:40 AM

Wonder what Kushina gonna say next? Something about the men who compliment her hair. I think it might help Narusaku though. I hope.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 04:57 AM

QUOTE (dokueki(venom) @ Jun 13 2010, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wonder what Kushina gonna say next? Something about the men who compliment her hair. I think it might help Narusaku though. I hope.


huh.gif I hope that's facetious.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 12:03 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Jun 14 2010, 04:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can deal with this! Its the most plausible - I think O_e


No, no.

499: Naruto beats Kyuubi
500: Sakura kisses him.
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 05:25 PM

Has anyone commented on the similarities between the Kushina hug panel and the Sakura hug panel from 450? I made a quick pic...



I fit the pic of NaruSaku hug from 450 into the 498 frame (with almost no alterations, I might add. I think I only shrank the pic a little, the rest was creative cropping.)

So what does this mean — absolutely nothing! laugh.gif

Looking at it neutrally, this image has no real bearing on any pairing support, just a similar view from the panel which I've taken a small liberty with (close cropping).

However, it's interesting to think that Kishimoto is echoing the same view from the most significant, unconditional, physical display of appreciation for Naruto, at his moment of glory with the whole village looking on.

And you can't dismiss it as just the most appropriate angle to show a hug - Kishi could show the scene from many other angles, and he did when she confessed. There was not a full on, straightforward hug panel in that whole exchange. And obviously, taken as a whole, that expression of affection was fraught with confusion.

Kishimoto decided to draw it this way for a purpose - you can either believe it reinforces Sakura as being the other person who loves him for who he is, from the start, or that it's just the easiest way to draw a hug. I know which one I'm sticking with though!

This chapter is bringing things full-circle in so many ways. It's crazy that I can reread it days later and find another tie-in!

(Sorry if this similarity has been covered - if it was mentioned, I must've missed it!)

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jun 14 2010, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone commented on the similarities between the Kushina hug panel and the Sakura hug panel from 450? I made a quick pic...



I fit the pic of NaruSaku hug from 450 into the 498 frame (with almost no alterations, I might add. I think I only shrank the pic a little, the rest was creative cropping.)

So what does this mean — absolutely nothing! laugh.gif

Looking at it neutrally, this image has no real bearing on any pairing support, just a similar view from the panel which I've taken a small liberty with (close cropping).

However, it's interesting to think that Kishimoto is echoing the same view from the most significant, unconditional, physical display of appreciation for Naruto, at his moment of glory with the whole village looking on.

And you can't dismiss it as just the most appropriate angle to show a hug - Kishi could show the scene from many other angles, and he did when she confessed. There was not a full on, straightforward hug panel in that whole exchange. And obviously, taken as a whole, that expression of affection was fraught with confusion.

Kishimoto decided to draw it this way for a purpose - you can either believe it reinforces Sakura as being the other person who loves him for who he is, from the start, or that it's just the easiest way to draw a hug. I know which one I'm sticking with though!

This chapter is bringing things full-circle in so many ways. It's crazy that I can reread it days later and find another tie-in!

(Sorry if this similarity has been covered - if it was mentioned, I must've missed it!)


How else do you huge someone tongue.gif

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:01 PM

Well, hugs can be made in different ways, but this one shows the closeness between two persons and from what I understood, hugs aren't often made by the Japanese.(correct me if I'm wrong)

Edited by untold62, 14 June 2010 - 06:02 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:13 PM

The difference between those hugs it's quite simple. The 450 hug Sakura was the one who hugged Naruto while he was completely shocked probably thinking that this was a dream and it was not really happening (its not every day that they girl you have love for years hugs you in a intimate way wink.gif).

The other hug it was Naruto who hugged Kushina can you really blame the poor guy? this is the first time he finally meets his mother and he has been wondering for so long who was his mother. Anyone will hugged their mother if they meet them for the first time in their lives.
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (manny123 @ Jun 14 2010, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How else do you huge someone tongue.gif


By leaning to the right? They say that statistically when people kiss, most people naturally lean to the right. I'd imagine it's the same with hugs. In both of these hugs they're leaning to the left. Does this mean anything? Probaby not, it's just some fun trivia because that's about all I'm good for. woot.gif

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 06:44 PM

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It shows Naruto is taller then Sakura and Kushina is taller then Naruto kruemelmonsteryn0.gif Lmao.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 07:18 PM

facepalm.png The intention's different of course, but what was interesting to me is that the presentation is nearly identical. Kishimoto has a whole range of illustrations (body language, positioning, view from the frame) he can choose from to show that hug, instead he chose to echo the Sakura hugging Naruto illustration in 450. It may mean absolutely nothing, but it's interesting to note. As a graphic designer, these are the things that keep me up at night! laugh.gif

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 07:28 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jun 14 2010, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
facepalm.png The intention's different of course, but what was interesting to me is that the presentation is nearly identical. Kishimoto has a whole range of illustrations (body language, positioning, view from the frame) he can choose from to show that hug, instead he chose to echo the Sakura hugging Naruto illustration in 450. It may mean absolutely nothing, but it's interesting to note. As a graphic designer, these are the things that keep me up at night! laugh.gif


I know XD my life is one big facepalm! And, yes I can see the resemblance =P

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 08:08 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jun 14 2010, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Has anyone commented on the similarities between the Kushina hug panel and the Sakura hug panel from 450? I made a quick pic...



I fit the pic of NaruSaku hug from 450 into the 498 frame (with almost no alterations, I might add. I think I only shrank the pic a little, the rest was creative cropping.)

So what does this mean — absolutely nothing! laugh.gif


However, it's interesting to think that Kishimoto is echoing the same view from the most significant, unconditional, physical display of appreciation for Naruto, at his moment of glory with the whole village looking on.

And you can't dismiss it as just the most appropriate angle to show a hug - Kishi could show the scene from many other angles, and he did when she confessed. There was not a full on, straightforward hug panel in that whole exchange. And obviously, taken as a whole, that expression of affection was fraught with confusion.

Kishimoto decided to draw it this way for a purpose - you can either believe it reinforces Sakura as being the other person who loves him for who he is, from the start, or that it's just the easiest way to draw a hug. I know which one I'm sticking with though!

This chapter is bringing things full-circle in so many ways. It's crazy that I can reread it days later and find another tie-in!

(Sorry if this similarity has been covered - if it was mentioned, I must've missed it!)


laugh.gif Oh yeah, I commented on that. I'm not good with the photo thing but can you compare the smile from Kushina on the next page of this chapter with the panel on page 15 of 469? I saw something there too. You don't have to post it I just want to know if you saw the same sort of comparison between the two.

Edited by Insurrection, 14 June 2010 - 08:14 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2010 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (Insurrection @ Jun 14 2010, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
laugh.gif Oh yeah, I commented on that. I'm not good with the photo thing but can you compare the smile from Kushina on the next page of this chapter with the panel on page 15 of 469? I saw something there too. You don't have to post it I just want to know if you saw the same sort of comparison between the two.

Holy crap!! I did the comparison and the smile from both looks almost identical. That may mean something but I'm not going to say NS is cannon yet.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE (crazyefra @ Jun 14 2010, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Holy crap!! I did the comparison and the smile from both looks almost identical. That may mean something but I'm not going to say NS is cannon yet.

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Really the whole chapter was kind of a comparison to Kushina/Sakura and foreshadowing to NS. The whole Manga has done that though , Minato/Kushina hair and Naruto/Sakura and her giant forehead. I think NS has been the known main pairing for a long time I guess people just have to wait huh =)

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (Prime @ Jun 14 2010, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really the whole chapter was kind of a comparison to Kushina/Sakura and foreshadowing to NS. The whole Manga has done that though , Minato/Kushina hair and Naruto/Sakura and her giant forehead. I think NS has been the known main pairing for a long time I guess people just have to wait huh =)


It's not just that but with this chapter Kishi is basically throwing it in our faces what is the pairing that he has been developing for a long time and the pairing he will eventually make canon in his manga. The paralel Minato/Kushina with Naruto/Sakura and the foreshadowing it shows it's like he doesn't know what else to do to show people what is the pairings he wants to make canon (it's like he's about to spill the beans but he probably won't do that until the end).

Or maybe Kishi is well aware that we already know the canon pairing and he's throwing obvious hints of the pairing, he has been doing that since the beginning of part 1.

Edited by Gravenimage, 14 June 2010 - 09:30 PM.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 14 2010, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not just that but with this chapter Kishi is basically throwing it in our faces what is the pairing that he has been developing for a long time and the pairing he will eventually make canon in his manga. The paralel Minato/Kushina with Naruto/Sakura and the foreshadowing it shows it's like he doesn't know what else to do to show people what is the pairings he wants to make canon (it's like he's about to spill the beans but he probably won't do that until the end).

Or maybe Kishi is well aware that we already know the canon pairing and he's throwing obvious hints of the pairing, he has been doing that since the beginning of part 1.



I don't know what else he could do to make it more obvious anyways. I've noticed it from the very start a long long long time ago , yet; I still see people thinking that other pairings are possible and it's just not realistic.

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:51 PM

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Naruto has to tell Sakura the truth though since it's a lie that needs to be straighten out.


yes this is very true. All Im saying is that the scene itself can be brought up with either Sasuke or Naruto. but in the end it is Naruto who must inevitably reveal the final truth.
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Posted 14 June 2010 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Jun 14 2010, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not just that but with this chapter Kishi is basically throwing it in our faces what is the pairing that he has been developing for a long time and the pairing he will eventually make canon in his manga. The paralel Minato/Kushina with Naruto/Sakura and the foreshadowing it shows it's like he doesn't know what else to do to show people what is the pairings he wants to make canon (it's like he's about to spill the beans but he probably won't do that until the end).

Or maybe Kishi is well aware that we already know the canon pairing and he's throwing obvious hints of the pairing, he has been doing that since the beginning of part 1.


Yeah, its always been pretty obvious. Only time will tell >3 or Kishimoto

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 01:19 AM

QUOTE (catsi563 @ Jun 13 2010, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the thing to udnerstand about the bench scene in regards to her feelings for Sasuke is not that it is about her current feelings which have clearly changed.

what the bench scene is about is that it is the root of her original feelings for sasuke the ones which are part of along with her growing feelings for Naruto and desire to grow which have led her to the current situation.

Its that illusory foudnation that needs to be destroyed and replaced with the more solid foundation of Naruto.

It is an extremely important moment for her because inspite of what followed, which she blamed herself for, that moment established her dreams as being acknowledged. thus fulfilling a powerful theme of the manga.



How are her old feelings for Sasuke related to her feelings for Naruto? Wouldn't that mean that the past would be holding her back from pursuing a relationship with Naruto? What if that illusionary foundation has already bean destroyed a long time ago and already bean replaced by the solid foundation of Naruto a long time ago? It can't take that long right? Also, if the bench scene is so important and significant to her, then why wasn't it included in the group of flashbacks that she had of Sasuke before she failed to kill Sasuke? Like I said earlier, I refuse to believe that Sakura is stuck in the past. I believe that she moved on from her crush on Sasuke a long time ago before part 2 started and it wouldn't make sense if the Sasuke illusion Naruto disguised himself as still had significance when that illusion would've already bean dead by now.

Edited by K9ofChaos, 15 June 2010 - 01:23 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2010 - 08:46 AM

Kushina is so awesome she has her own brand of habanero potato chips in Japan:


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