A complete rip-off from Bleach...
#1
Posted 25 February 2010 - 08:17 AM
What do you guys say to this?? I've got a feeling this will backlash against doujinkas.... at least I hope not....
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#2
Posted 25 February 2010 - 08:25 AM
It might be. Some scene looks almost copied while others seem only based on others.
To be funny here is a quote by Picasso.
"Good art is copied. Great art is stolen."
#3
Posted 25 February 2010 - 08:43 AM
#4
Posted 25 February 2010 - 08:47 AM
I mean, the drawings are not exact to the T, but they are close enough that yes it is plagerism.
This reminds me of the time when I had this problem with one of my comics where people thought I ripped off from some sources, but in reality I took inspiration from them. In reality the first base I took from was myself, not from another source. Sure I look at different concepts of what I what I might be going for, but not the same.
It's like my avatar that I drew. Some say I ripped off Leon S Kennedy from RE4, but in reality that is what I look like. I based off my own image not Leon's. As for his eye. Yeah I looked at Kakashi for inspiration, but they are not the same. I also looked at a few other who also have eyes like it and see what other have done to take in inspiration, and to make sure I didn't step on anyone's toes.
Edit:
Yeah it is a complete rip-off. The story is a little different, but the drawings are complete traces.
Edited by James S Cassidy, 25 February 2010 - 09:11 AM.
#5
Posted 25 February 2010 - 09:21 AM
This is SICK!! Totally traces... Complete traces!!
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#6
Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:31 AM
#8
Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:04 PM
I mean, the drawings are not exact to the T, but they are close enough that yes it is plagerism.
If that's all it was then he'd be fine. Plagrism is unethical and highly frowned upon, but not itself illegal. However, if he is doing so, then there copyright violations for which he can be sued.
That he even ripped off a few pages wouldn't change that. A violation's a violation. The amount would simply be related to elements of proving it and possible punishment. But whether you copy a little or a lot, you've still committed copyright violations.
That you copied a little or alot isn't the issue. That you copied it at all is the problem.
#9
Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:22 PM
#10
Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:39 PM
That he even ripped off a few pages wouldn't change that. A violation's a violation. The amount would simply be related to elements of proving it and possible punishment. But whether you copy a little or a lot, you've still committed copyright violations.
That you copied a little or alot isn't the issue. That you copied it at all is the problem.
That depends.
For artist, the copyright law is a little hazy for us. It is hard to know where the line is drawn sometimes. I know myself because I had trouble telling myself.
However, copyright laws are specific. You cannot copy right an "ideal theme," but you can copyright how you show it. By ideal theme I mean, if I would say make a story about space marines then no I would not be in copyright breach. Unoriginal maybe, but fully legal.
He might have changed just enough to get away with it. While he did copy the figure exactly the way it is posed, he changed enough so that it is not even close to the same character.
Even if the law cannot make him accountable for whatever means, we the public know the truth.
I am still trying to figure it all out, but even then it is confusing.
#11
Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:14 PM
Edited by chouzu_tao, 25 February 2010 - 03:15 PM.
#12
Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:29 PM
#13
Posted 25 February 2010 - 03:52 PM
#14
Posted 25 February 2010 - 04:17 PM
According to his twitter, he has no comments on it & is leaving the legal process to Shueisha. (that's what I can pretty much draw from it). On off-topic note, if Kubo has a twitter account, how come Kishi doesn't have a computer, let alone a twitter account.
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#15
Posted 25 February 2010 - 05:05 PM
The only difference I see in these is the colouring and that's the work of someone else, so as far as the drawings go they look almost identical to Kubo's in some cases he's just mixed a couple of charactors together to get the look, The Orihime cone looks like Orhime and a little bit of Rukia thrown in.
Oh Well they do say imitation is the highest form of flattery or something like that. Though can't say Simmons is all that clever, if you expect to get away with Plagerism you don't copy from the third most Popular Manga in Japan. What next a Comic about a Ninja who had a great beast sealed in him or maybe a Pirate with powers of stretching?
#16
Posted 26 February 2010 - 02:39 AM
I started out tracing to get the feel for what Manga was like WHEN I WAS 12, but I never posted any of it or showed it to anyone and I sure as hell did not claim it as my own. Nick Simmons? Big fail.
(Daddy Gene should be disappoint.)
#17
Posted 26 February 2010 - 02:56 AM
Yeah, it's pretty horrible to do, especially since he basically took poses from anyone he liked and added them in as his own. He also blatantly copied dialogue. Seems like he especially likes the sins chapters. I hope his publisher drops him.
#18
Posted 26 February 2010 - 03:13 AM
Hehe albatross it surprises me I still remember that book! Any ways this makes me LOL you guys can bash Nick Simmons but I think it's far more funny that he copied Bleach, I mean seriously who was genna buy that book anyways?
#19 Guest_Kodachi Claws_*
Posted 26 February 2010 - 03:30 AM
It's okay to be inspired by something, I dare say it's even alright to use a similar concept and designs, but it must be presented in a fresh way where story, dialogue, and characters are your own. This is not only a piss-poor attempt at making a comic, this is also downright disrespectful to the material that inspired him (unless, of course, he simply read that the Bleach series is popular in America and decided to copy that so he could make money. Actually, I think that is EXACTLY it).
#20
Posted 26 February 2010 - 04:08 AM
Seriously, the artwork was indeed traced. The facial expressions, how the characters are, most scenes... he must've went on deviantart on whichever artist colored those pages and traced them, if he hadn't ever heard of the series as he "supposed" to.
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