Here is a discussion I want to bring.
I talk to people and see a lot of videos of the "good things" about Naruto, but at the end of the day no amount of "good things" erases the biggest black mark in Naruto. People focused more on the pairings than the actual story. People focused MORE on the love affairs to something they claim is "NOT a romance manga." I see this time and time again.
NH fans and proenders now all of a sudden care about the story and elements in it and point out the good and the bad...well, isn't that just peachy? We cared about the story since page 1, they cared about Hinata's love affair. We cared about Naruto and his struggles; they cared about whether or not Hinata will be noticed. We cared about characters getting their due diligence; they cared about Hinata getting her rocks knocked off.
Now that NH is canon...now that they have nothing to lose...they care about the story all of a sudden. My how convenient now.
It is so stupid and it is the biggest joke I have heard way too many times now. When someone has nothing to lose, NOW they want to talk about everything else. Now they want to talk about how Kaguya didn't make sense. Now they want to talk about how the war was a jumbled mess.
We have been talking about it.
Worse still, we CAN'T talk about how messed up NH and SS is because then the proenders accuse US of being "salty about pairing fans." Doesn't matter how correct we are or how right we are because now they want to talk about the rest of the story that we have BEEN talking about and when we focus on the pairings because that's all they focused on...they want to be like "God, there is so much good in the story. Why do you have to focus on pairings? It is not a romance manga." I can't do it anymore. I can't look at anything good in the series and even now we are still have arguments of "who the best girl in the series is: Sakura or Hinata" even though at this point they are both pretty trash.
All the bad parts of the series involve the parings for the most part, but they don't want to talk about this. Excuse after excuse.
I see non-stop character popularity poles involving all the females and they all come down to the same thing "Sakura vs Hinata." Not even one other female character gets more popular. Not Temari, not Ten Ten, no other female character. Does anyone ever stop to ask why that is? I know why...because as much as people may excuse their behaviors....all they cared about is the pairings.
No wonder Kishimoto just stopped caring. If I tried so hard to write a story and all people cared about was how wet the panties are of two female characters....I would have given up too. Okay, maybe not, but I would definitely told the fandom that I am doing what I wanted and they have no recourse on what I want to do. They want to make non-canon romance movies? Go for it, but they are NOT making a canon story without my permission. Especially when they demand me to give them what they want.
...... I reiterate what I have said a few months back
Again. He can complain about it. He can admit it's mistakes. He can admit he was wrong. Doesn't change the fact that he was a YouTuber with clear bias towards the "moe" princess, he was crapping on Sakura etc. etc. He can have a complete change of heart, most people do. Doesn't change that how things turned out IS. PARTIALLY. HIS. DOING. If any of these damn YouTube weaboo reviewers showed ANY impartiality at all and leave their own god damned lack of success in relationships OUT OF their reviews for Naruto, this series would probably not be the trash it is today. It was their "jacking off" to Hinata and her boobs that caught the attention of Hinata worshiping executives at Shueisha and they pressured Kishi to complying with their demands for Naruto to "ride Hinata" and "knock her up". It doesn't matter to me what they think now. THEY ASKED FOR IT. NOW THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. END OF STORY. I have no sympathies to give them nor will I hear what they have to say now because these jack@$$es helped ruin the series for EVERYONE. I can't trust these nut jobs to be objective over anything unless it is something they want to see or they look back on it long after the damage has been done. If I seem unsympathetic, that is because like I said, these weeb otaku wannabes are part of the reason Naruto was ruined for me. Therefore I give no kittens to what they have to say now.
Like I said, these hypocrites are SO blindsided by their fanatical devotion on what they THINK Hinata deserves for being the "shy girl next door" that pined after Naruto for years with the double whammy of Sakura being a tsundere to the neglected and socially abused orphan that she didn't even like that they could not be objective about any of the story until after they got what they wanted. Well NOW THEY DID. And even they aren't satisfied with how it had to happen so now they got their *kitten slap* the objectivity comes out too long too late after the fact because it is a mix of they are the shipping war winners and at the same time they subconsciously KNOW their divine pairing is busted beyond belief in that the trophy husband that they have demanded and fought tooth and nail for their "big kittened moe goddess" doesn't even have the time of day for her and their demigod children that are a mary/marty stu to the nth degree."
Face the facts, even "JAPANESE VALUES" can't excuse the neglect being shown right now despite HOW IN LOVE THE COUPLE is suppose to be, because Nardo can't have time for his family, but he has time to fawn over and kiss the emotional boo boos of Sasuke 2.0/Nail/Kawaki for being a "poow widdle" orphan like himself, and reminding him of his "man candy $&%doll".
So now that they that they KNOW they got nothing despite winning they decide to try be
INTELLECTUAL about the very topics we've been beating to death for the past decade and several years AFTER THE FACT.
BY the way, While we were discussing the plot character development and flaws of the story, what were THEY DOING? Wondering when Naruto will
"propose to Hinata, grab her waist and thrust into her like no tomorrow, NEKKIDLY!!!!!" This is honestly a BIG FAT EFFING JOKE if I've ever heard one. I'm really laughing right now.
And not because it's it comedic-ally funny
Edited by Phantom_999, 18 June 2020 - 11:41 AM.