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#50941 Tsuki Hoshino

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 04:04 PM

They could have done a spin off in a completely different village with mild name dropping and cameos. It probably would have been more interesting and less inconsistent than what we have. "Why doesn't Burrito have Byakugan at birth? idk Lulz." 

Instead, in order to uplift the offspring characters the old ones are constantly getting kitten on, their personalities warped and basically desecrating everything people loved about them to begin with. I'm not kidding when i say i would rather them be all dead :zaru


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 01:22 AM

It just shows that even they know their pairing and how everything ended was bad. They are not satisfied with it either, no matter if they won because it's not what they desired. Truth is there are probably few people who are true pro-enders. Most are lying to themselves to save face.
They know very well the ending sucks and what is being produced now is trash, but they don't want to admit it so they keep on the facade. And unfortunately some are so angry that they lash out and they lash out to the wrong people.


You know what is hilarious about that? THEY CAN'T ADMIT that their pairing is bad because that invalidates everything they fanatically believed from the beginning that Hinata is Naruto's soulmate and the only woman that ever loved him and that he ever loved in turn. Having us "salty, satanic NaruSaku fans" win ANY ARGUMENT is unacceptable!!!!!! :lmao:  :th_yeah: (Again, their words not mine)

 


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"Well dear f***beep sir, if this fan fiction SOOOOOOOO offends you and your beliefs and your whole F***BEEP* LIFE, Why in the SH*beep* are you reading it and commenting!? Don't worry, I'll wait for your response....... for all eternity." Is what I would say the the poster of that comment, to clarify :whistling:

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 02:22 AM

 

You know what is hilarious about that? THEY CAN'T ADMIT that their pairing is bad because that invalidates everything they fanatically believed from the beginning that Hinata is Naruto's soulmate and the only woman that ever loved him and that he ever loved in turn. Having us "salty, satanic NaruSaku fans" win ANY ARGUMENT is unacceptable!!!!!! :lmao:  :th_yeah: (Again, their words not mine)

 

And they can't admit to themselves or us that they were wrong because of how ruined the series is, and how they're responsible for this bull**** that we're dealing with now because of their acting the loudest and not caring about how the story was.



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Posted 17 October 2019 - 03:53 PM

If Sakura married Naruto it would have made her character grow because moving on from a silly crush to falling in love with the person that's always been there for you is good character development. Is there a couple like NaruSaku that became canon?

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 04:00 PM

If Sakura married Naruto it would have made her character grow because moving on from a silly crush to falling in love with the person that's always been there for you is good character development. Is there a couple like NaruSaku that became canon?


There are but I can't think of many maybe ed and winry, nate and Elena in uncharted, Gohan and videl.

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 07:42 PM

If Sakura married Naruto it would have made her character grow because moving on from a silly crush to falling in love with the person that's always been there for you is good character development. Is there a couple like NaruSaku that became canon?

 

Inuyasha/Kagome Inuyasha

Ranma/Akane Ranma1/2 

 

There are many shounen manga where the lead male ends up with the lead female who is a tsundere but I guess Kishi made an exception even if he did the 15 year old development (which it was a red herring :zaru:).


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Posted 17 October 2019 - 08:02 PM

 

Inuyasha/Kagome Inuyasha

Ranma/Akane Ranma1/2 

 

There are many shounen manga where the lead male ends up with the lead female who is a tsundere but I guess Kishi made an exception even if he did the 15 year old development (which it was a red herring :zaru:).

I actually don't know if InuKag applies unless Sakura is the Inuyasha lmao. 
 

 

If Sakura married Naruto it would have made her character grow because moving on from a silly crush to falling in love with the person that's always been there for you is good character development. Is there a couple like NaruSaku that became canon?

 

My personal opinion is that Sakura with ANYONE other than Sasuke, even alone or dead would have been better then Sasusaku. but "sakura would be a bad woman if she moved on from The Sauce."  :zaru: being with him demeans her developement. Everytime she is around him its like her IQ drops by 100 points. 


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 06:27 AM

And I CANT KEEP SAYING THIS ENOUGH, Sakura puts on that fake girly personawhen interacting with Sasuke. If you are truly in love with someone, would you FAKE a personality with them?

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 01:26 PM

And I CANT KEEP SAYING THIS ENOUGH, Sakura puts on that fake girly personawhen interacting with Sasuke. If you are truly in love with someone, would you FAKE a personality with them?


Proof of this at Naruto wedding she had the fakest smile ever in the credits.

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 01:26 PM

Anyone think that ghost Rider could have beat Edo madara since he can eat souls?

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 03:28 PM

And I CANT KEEP SAYING THIS ENOUGH, Sakura puts on that fake girly personawhen interacting with Sasuke. If you are truly in love with someone, would you FAKE a personality with them?

 

Proof of this at Naruto wedding she had the fakest smile ever in the credits.

 

Amen to that guys, and further proof how full of **** that the ending is. Even Hinata puts on a fake persona when she's around Naruto later on since she acts all scary, but she won't even discipline Boruto for his attitude problems or even try to justify how wrong it is that Naruto avoids their "family" deep down.



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Posted 18 October 2019 - 03:50 PM

And I CANT KEEP SAYING THIS ENOUGH, Sakura puts on that fake girly personawhen interacting with Sasuke. If you are truly in love with someone, would you FAKE a personality with them?

But like women are totes different around the dudes they love, to the point it's like they lost all will to dissent, or have pride. 

Women who chase guys like Sakura chased Sasuke are embarrassing irl. it's cute in a 13yr old, its embarrassing in an adult. 


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Posted 18 October 2019 - 07:46 PM

They act different yes, but they won't act fake, Like Sakura around Sasuke and just as you say, that fake persona is an embarrassment ultimately. Because that is totally a lack of self respect, compared to how natural she acts around Naruto. There is acting different towards the one you love, then there is the complete 180 degrees turn in personality, not speaking of anything except what you want them to hear, and being a brainless airhead that only agrees with what they say and giggles every 5 seconds

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 03:08 AM

Amen to that guys, and further proof how full of **** that the ending is. Even Hinata puts on a fake persona when she's around Naruto later on since she acts all scary, but she won't even discipline Boruto for his attitude problems or even try to justify how wrong it is that Naruto avoids their "family" deep down.


In her mind Naruto can do no wrong and is always right. At least Sakura would call him out on stuff.

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 10:15 PM

If Bolt was Sakura's son, he would behave properly if he knew what was good for him.

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 05:35 PM

If Sakura married Naruto it would have made her character grow because moving on from a silly crush to falling in love with the person that's always been there for you is good character development. Is there a couple like NaruSaku that became canon?

 
I remember being told "Rose of Versailles" is pretty similar with the whole love triangle. It's pretty old but well its something
 
The whole problem with NH and SS is both women started off as fan girls with silly crushes and they ENDED the series no differently, they did not show true maturity or development when iteracting with their respective love interests and that is a fundamental problem for fictional relationships.
 
I can never say this enough, IT DOES NOT matter whether or not you think of Naruto and Sakura's relationship as romantic or just as brother and sister. The point is that their dynamic is given focus and develops both of them into better individuals. And one of my prime arguments is that if they WERE meant to be portrayed as brother and sister Naruto would have been seeking Hinata's company from time to time in anime and manga even, if she was meant to be his wife "from the beginning". Because I sure as heck see no relationship developing between a hyperactive loud mouth and a shy, quiet wall flower, especially if they don't ever make plans to meet up and get to know each other better regularly.
 
SasuSaku is an even worse foundation that NaruHina because I've beaten this to death for more times than I can count but.............. SASUKE IS NOT GOOD FOR SAKURA. Why? ever since part II of the manga when Sauske is becoming more and more obsessed with revenge and being more deluded in his hatred that he would blame innocent people for his family's suffering, do you SEE Sakura giving him loving looks and thinking "he is so handsome and cool?" NO!!!! That was the very reason she was crushing on him in the first place but was there a specific reason beyond that? I can't recall. Can anyone here? Not to mention that Sakura has shown time and time again she is only in love with the "idea of Sasuke" rather than Sasuke himself because the only fond memories she has of him is only from Part I, before he deserted the village and left her. You don't see her having any positive thoughts about him after that fact. And yet fans are supposed to believe they would "GET MARRIED"? :confused:  :mellow:
 

If Bolt was Sakura's son, he would behave properly if he knew what was good for him.

 
Well I'd rather not have Boruto as Sakura's son, but yes any child of Sakura's would be disciplined and set straight at the very least.


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Posted 20 October 2019 - 09:25 PM

The question of "having a different mom." really only changes things, if the mom changes Naruto IMO. basically, all of Bolt's problems seem to stem from Naruto. Tho to be fair I have no idea what Hinata is or isn't doing when it comes to raising him. Does she pressure Naruto that his family is just as important as the village? or does she just excuse his neglect because she's nardo-fan?

The difference is Sakura wouldn't excuse it and she would make sure he made time because she is a different person when she is with Naruto vs Sasuke. When it comes to Sasuke being present in her kid's life she seems to pull the same "Can't be helped" attitude as Hinata. when Sasuke is involved its like she loses all her attitude  :facepalm: 


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Posted 21 October 2019 - 03:13 AM

The question of "having a different mom." really only changes things, if the mom changes Naruto IMO. basically, all of Bolt's problems seem to stem from Naruto. Tho to be fair I have no idea what Hinata is or isn't doing when it comes to raising him. Does she pressure Naruto that his family is just as important as the village? or does she just excuse his neglect because she's nardo-fan?

The difference is Sakura wouldn't excuse it and she would make sure he made time because she is a different person when she is with Naruto vs Sasuke. When it comes to Sasuke being present in her kid's life she seems to pull the same "Can't be helped" attitude as Hinata. when Sasuke is involved its like she loses all her attitude  :facepalm:

Even, Sakura haters admit Naruto would not behave the way he did if they were married. 

 

Boruto problems come from three-ish thing: Naruto's neglect, Hinata's apathy, and his own spoiled life as well as nature.

 

Naruto neglecting his family is the biggest chip Bolt has on his shoulders. It is often suppose to come off that he deeply loves his father and his hurt by him neglecting him because of his job causing him to lash out. Kishimoto was able to handle that, the manga to a extent as well, but the anime has shown it in a way that sometimes it instead comes off as he always hated his father no matter what.

 

Hinata not being able to address the problem either to fill the void or confront Naruto exasperated the situation. Since, Bolt loves his mother and is hurt how Naruto neglected  her...which from what I've seen from the manga is pretty much just; well they are married...you don't need to have love for that. She also doesn't deal with Bolt behavior at all even in the anime with the all-might mom approach since he still acts out.

 

Also, his personality is very much like Naruto at his core. But their different backgrounds led to different people. Naruto the orphan is a dumb annoying brat, but he does work hard, cares about his friends, and is trying to improve himself as well as try to help as many people as he can. Bolt was born to an important family that people pretty much gave him what ever he wanted. So he is very used to just whining and complaining about something till he gets what he wants. He is smarter than his father was, but he is very lazy as well as very spoiled despite having a good heart deep down.

 

As for Sakura vs Hinata parenting...look at their daughters. Sakura raised Sarada on her own. The girl is nice, polite, kind, well educated, hard working, motivate, stand up for herself, and is one of the very few well received character in Boruto. Hinata's daughter has three iterations. One from Kishimoto, where she was a little psychopath that intentionally hunted down as seriously injured two of her family members over a stuff toy. One from the manga, where despite some scene still comes of as bland flat character. And the anime's where they made her the prefect little sister/daughter...which means she has no true personality.

 

Tldr: Sakura raised one overall good kid on her own while Hinata while in theory having good kids at their core have terrible behavioral problems.

 

Sakura would not have put on with either Naruto's neglect or allowed her son to developed the attitude nor behavior Hinata allowed to fester in her children. 


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Posted 21 October 2019 - 07:11 AM

Even, Sakura haters admit Naruto would not behave the way he did if they were married. 

 

Boruto problems come from three-ish thing: Naruto's neglect, Hinata's apathy, and his own spoiled life as well as nature.

 

Naruto neglecting his family is the biggest chip Bolt has on his shoulders. It is often suppose to come off that he deeply loves his father and his hurt by him neglecting him because of his job causing him to lash out. Kishimoto was able to handle that, the manga to a extent as well but the anime has gone out of it was with it that it instead comes off as he always hated.

 

Hinata not being able to address the problem either to fill the void or confront Naruto exasperated the situation. Since, Bolt loves his mother and his hurt how Naruto neglect her...which from what I've seen from the manga is pretty much just; well they are married...you don't need to have love for that. She also doesn't deal with Bolt behavoir at all even in the anime with the all-might mom approach since he still acts out.

 

Also, his personality is very much like Naruto at his core. But their different backgrounds led to different people. Naruto is a dumb annoying brat, but he does work hard, cares about his friends, and is trying to improve himself as well as try to help as many people as he can. Bolt was born to an important family that people pretty much gave him what ever he wanted. So he is very used to just whining and complaining about something till he gets what he wants. He is smarter than his father was, but he is very lazy  as well as very spoiled despite having a good heart deep down.

 

As for Sakura vs Hinata parenting...look at their daughters. Sakura raised Sarada on her own. The girl is nice, polite, kind, well educated, hard working, motivate, stand up for herself, and is one of the very few well received character in Boruto. Hinata's daughter has three iterations. One from Kishimoto, where she was a little psychopath that intentionally hunted down as seriously injured two of her family members over a stuff toy. One from the manga, where despite some scene still comes of as bland. And the anime's where they made her the prefect little sister/daughter...which means she has no true personality.

 

Tldr: Sakura raised one overall good kid on her own while Hinata while in theory having good kids at their core have terrible behavioral problems.

 

Sakura would not have put off with either Naruto's neglect or allowed her son to developed the attitude nor behavior Hinata allowed to fester in her children. 

yup don't forget himawari being a total yandere and knocking out her father over a toy making him miss his hokage ceremony.....

seriously as bad as boruto the trainwreck series is, at least sarada isn't like himawari xD


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Posted 21 October 2019 - 07:30 AM

yup don't forget himawari being a total yandere and knocking out her father over a toy making him miss his hokage ceremony.....

seriously as bad as boruto the trainwreck series is, at least sarada isn't like himawari xD

 

And the fact too Himawari was gonna KILL Boruto over it when she triggered her Byakugan for some reasons, since Kishi forgot to draw them with it, showing how that he didn't PLAN any of this crap!






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