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[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

He was in that flashback to the academy part where he asked everyone, if they world were to end who would you spend you last day with. Beyond that again only hinata has a true connection to Naruto and is the only one allowed to have any sort of bond with him. Friends, mentors, role models, former love interest, soul brothers, and even his loving mother must all be erased for the goddess Hinata.

 

Yeah, but I mean in the present mostly, outside of the credits since he was kinda shoved into there is what i mean. And yeah, that just shows you how f***ed it became in the end just because Studio Pierrot knew there was no realistic way for this to work out, which is why i just want to tear them apart, and why I am upset about the series I loved becoming destroyed for a minority group.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

Iruka who? 

You mean that guy who should probably be the most important person to Naruto ever, but quietly dissipated into oblivion except every 100 chapters or so?

Never heard of him. 

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 24 January 2018 - 03:25 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

I know this also could fit into the NaruSaku section, guys, but anyone realize that iruka wasn't in The Last? It tells you a lot of why he and Sasuke were omitted a lot and why Sakura was made to try to shove Naruto and Hinata together... because NaruHina couldn't have happened if any of those three were around or if Naruto's genuine feelings for Sakura remained intact.

agreed iruka was naruto's first real bond and the person who believed in him, but the last iruka, sasuke, jiraya they don't matter anymore. Hell kunreai, Kiba and shino don't even matter anymore. Neji doesn't matter anymore no one matters anymore but naruto and Hinata.
 

Iruka who? 
You mean that guy who should probably be the most important person to Naruto ever, but quietly dissipated into oblivion except every 100 chapters or so?
Never heard of him.

Same for Hanabi who the last time we saw her was in the neji vs naruto fight back in part 1 and her grand return to the series meant nothing cause she did nothinh

[RulesofNature]

  Same for Hanabi who the last time we saw her was in the neji vs naruto fight back in part 1 and her grand return to the series meant nothing cause she did nothinh

 

Not to mention that in the anime they make her come to respect Hinata for how strong she's become and cheered NaruHina on, because everyone has to bow down and praise Hinata-sama.

 

Meanwhile, Ino had to save Hinata and Hanabi during the movie. Hinata then tried to run off to "save" Naruto but got taken out easily. So, Hinata couldn't move to save her daughter's life but once Naruto got into a fight, she's all "I'ma gonna go whoop someone's ass and save my man!" leaving her children behind to be potentially orphaned.

[Yyubie]

I know this also could fit into the NaruSaku section, guys, but anyone realize that iruka wasn't in The Last? It tells you a lot of why he and Sasuke were omitted a lot and why Sakura was made to try to shove Naruto and Hinata together... because NaruHina couldn't have happened if any of those three were around or if Naruto's genuine feelings for Sakura remained intact.

Iruka and even Sasuke is actually one of the biggest supportive of NaruSaku. Iruka is the one that told the story about heaven and earth thingy to Naruto and Sakura just after the forest of death chunning exam , and Sasuke is being honest and telling Sakura the truth about who saved her from Gaara. So naturally ..... they need to eliminate any threat to NH during the making of The Last.

 

Edit : And of course to establish that Hinata is the first person (way before Iruka) that have acknowledge and always have been there for Naruto so they get rid of Iruka.

Edited by Yyubie, 24 January 2018 - 09:41 PM.

[Phantom_999]

I know this also could fit into the NaruSaku section, guys, but anyone realize that iruka wasn't in The Last? It tells you a lot of why he and Sasuke were omitted a lot and why Sakura was made to try to shove Naruto and Hinata together... because NaruHina couldn't have happened if any of those three were around or if Naruto's genuine feelings for Sakura remained intact.

 

Because HEAVEN FORBID Naruto have his father/older brother figure and (secret?) Boyfriend be in his vicinity to prevent him from being brainwashed and guilt tripped into loving Hinata-Jou sama princess, and even his actual girlfriend/wife candidate, Sakura HAD to be pushing him towards Hinata-Jou-sama princess and telling him he only loved her (Sakura) as a rivalry game, because other wise it wouldn't be cemented. And forget all the times Naruto self terminated his own happiness and love for her because he was under the impression she loved Sasuke and protected her when it really counted. Or that Sakura is always a sad sobbing wreck when Sasuke is brought up in Part II, in contrast to her always "letting down her hair" when with Naruto and is genuinely happy and relaxed around the latter, not to mention the fact that Sasuke tried to kill her and emotionally ABUSED her several times in part II culminating towards him actually mind screwing her to thinking he stabbed her heart with Chidori. YUP, KITTEN ALL OF THAT because Naruto's true soulmate (said no actual fan of the actual story) is Hinata-jou-sama princess and Sakura moving on from Sasuke would make her a TERRIBLE WOMAN!!!!!

 

THAT is Naruto's message to kids, that is!!

Edited by Phantom_999, 22 February 2018 - 12:43 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Not to mention that in the anime they make her come to respect Hinata for how strong she's become and cheered NaruHina on, because everyone has to bow down and praise Hinata-sama.
 
Meanwhile, Ino had to save Hinata and Hanabi during the movie. Hinata then tried to run off to "save" Naruto but got taken out easily. So, Hinata couldn't move to save her daughter's life but once Naruto got into a fight, she's all "I'ma gonna go whoop someone's ass and save my man!" leaving her children behind to be potentially orphaned.

Don't you mean himawari in that movie, the anime of naruto is garbage in the latter half of it cause it bows to the Uchiha and hinata, cause I doubt Hanabi would do that.
  

Iruka and even Sasuke is actually one of the biggest supportive of NaruSaku. Iruka is the one that told the story about heaven and earth thingy to Naruto and Sakura just after the forest of death chunning exam , and Sasuke is being honest and telling Sakura the truth about who saved her from Gaara. So naturally ..... they need to eliminate any threat to NH during the making of The Last.
 
Edit : And of course to establish that Hinata is the first person (way before Iruka) that have acknowledge and always have been there for Naruto so they get rid of Iruka.

Iruka was the first one we saw in the magna to support naruto as hinata didn't show up til the 40s chapter.

[Yyubie]

Iruka was the first one we saw in the magna to support naruto as hinata didn't show up til the 40s chapter.

I was watching the anime first on TV shows back then i have no PC and i remember on first episode they already show Hinata when Naruto about to perform henge no jutsu as punishment from Iruka , Hinata whisper quietly "Ganbare Naruto-kun / do your best Naruto" , but they didn't introduce her. Then turn out that she wasn't introduce let alone show up in chapter one on the manga i was like LOL .... i'm starting to lose faith in anime studio they edit and insert lot of things.

[winter-serenade]

I find it so ridiculous how someone so irrelevant to the plot could just become the driving force, and one of the supposed main influences to the main character. What has Hinata done? Naruto still wouldve won against Neji because Nejis talk about destiny wouldve annoyed him no doubt, thus giving him the motivation to prove him wrong, in turn, beating him. Pain needed Naruto alive, so I assume Konohas most unpredictable ninja wouldve found a way out. Probably the only useful thing Hinata did was talk sense into Naruto after Nejis death. I dont even consider the Last canon because of the contradictions and kitten it gives us.

Why is she suddenly the heroine after what little shes done? Im confused...

Edited by winter-serenade, 25 January 2018 - 03:41 AM.

[Derock]

I find it so ridiculous how someone so irrelevant to the plot could just become the driving force, and one of the supposed main influences to the main character. What has Hinata done? Naruto still wouldve won against Neji because Nejis talk about destiny wouldve annoyed him no doubt, thus giving him the motivation to prove him wrong, in turn, beating him. Pain needed Naruto alive, so I assume Konohas most unpredictable ninja wouldve found a way out. Probably the only useful thing Hinata did was talk sense into Naruto after Nejis death. I dont even consider the Last canon because of the contradictions and kitten it gives us.

Why is she suddenly the heroine after what little shes done? Im confused...

 

Favoritism from behind the scenes and also they somehow believe that Hinata would give more viewership and money from the "so-called" fans just because they dislike Sakura as the the main heroine. Not to mention pull a marketing stunt at the LAST minute (pun intended) that was very risky and it cost them badly.

[VanitasDS76491]

I was watching the anime first on TV shows back then i have no PC and i remember on first episode they already show Hinata when Naruto about to perform henge no jutsu as punishment from Iruka , Hinata whisper quietly "Ganbare Naruto-kun / do your best Naruto" , but they didn't introduce her. Then turn out that she wasn't introduce let alone show up in chapter one on the manga i was like LOL .... i'm starting to lose faith in anime studio they edit and insert lot of things.

 
Think that might have been a sign something was up? Her appearance in episode 1 and 3 are just filler.
 

I find it so ridiculous how someone so irrelevant to the plot could just become the driving force, and one of the supposed main influences to the main character. What has Hinata done? Naruto still wouldve won against Neji because Nejis talk about destiny wouldve annoyed him no doubt, thus giving him the motivation to prove him wrong, in turn, beating him. Pain needed Naruto alive, so I assume Konohas most unpredictable ninja wouldve found a way out. Probably the only useful thing Hinata did was talk sense into Naruto after Nejis death. I dont even consider the Last canon because of the contradictions and kitten it gives us.
Why is she suddenly the heroine after what little shes done? Im confused...

Exactly right if you think sakura would just abandon naruto to pain your mistaken or others there too, besides if not for Minato naruto would have killed everyone thanks to Hinata. So basically that pain save was pointless like most of her scenes. Yes the last contradictions everything the magna set up. How do you screw up your own continuity worse than the live action resident evil movies.

[VanitasDS76491]

Favoritism from behind the scenes and also they somehow believe that Hinata would give more viewership and money from the "so-called" fans just because they dislike Sakura as the the main heroine. Not to mention pull a marketing stunt at the LAST minute (pun intended) that was very risky and it cost them badly.

The sasuke and Kakashi thing with them being heavily in the trailer but barely being in the movie.

[hinataiscreepy]

I kept hearing from the western world that asian countries are demeaning of women... However in an ironic twist, its the male western fans who ended up influencing the ending (sawyer) to the cluster crap we got. I am worried about how we see women (maybe asian women to a certain extent) if Hinata is our supposed standard...

 

Real life strong beautiful women are the furthest thing from Hinata.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 
Think that might have been a sign something was up? Her appearance in episode 1 and 3 are just filler.
  Exactly right if you think sakura would just abandon naruto to pain your mistaken or others there too, besides if not for Minato naruto would have killed everyone thanks to Hinata. So basically that pain save was pointless like most of her scenes. Yes the last contradictions everything the magna set up. How do you screw up your own continuity worse than the live action resident evil movies.

I HATE the resident Evil movies so freaking much. 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

 
Think that might have been a sign something was up? Her appearance in episode 1 and 3 are just filler.
  Exactly right if you think sakura would just abandon naruto to pain your mistaken or others there too, besides if not for Minato naruto would have killed everyone thanks to Hinata. So basically that pain save was pointless like most of her scenes. Yes the last contradictions everything the magna set up. How do you screw up your own continuity worse than the live action resident evil movies.

At least most of the RE movies are, even with the huge retcons and such in The Final Chapter, for me anyway, a "so stupid, they're fun" watch (at least after the first one, which was okay) whereas Naruto is now just "so bad, it's bad", period. Heck, I actually think the retcon involving who Alice is is probably BETTER than what we originally had (just some random Umbrella research employee) and at least it's not without some form of previous setup (Extinction). Though I did hate what they did to Wesker; goes from being the head of Umbrella and, despite being pretty copy/pasted from RE5, still pretty cool to being reduced to just a normal lackey to Isaacs (who himself was the normal lackey to Wesker in Extinction) with seemingly no special abilities and went out like a complete chump.

[VanitasDS76491]

I HATE the resident Evil movies so freaking much.

The first one was ok nothing great, plus those movies show favorites making the characters from the games useless save carlos who really is the one good character in these movies til they killed him off near the end of the third movie.
  

At least most of the RE movies are, even with the huge retcons and such in The Final Chapter, for me anyway, a "so stupid, they're fun" watch (at least after the first one, which was okay) whereas Naruto is now just "so bad, it's bad", period. Heck, I actually think the retcon involving who Alice is is probably BETTER than what we originally had (just some random Umbrella research employee) and at least it's not without some form of previous setup (Extinction). Though I did hate what they did to Wesker; goes from being the head of Umbrella and, despite being pretty copy/pasted from RE5, still pretty cool to being reduced to just a normal lackey to Isaacs (who himself was the normal lackey to Wesker in Extinction) with seemingly no special abilities and went out like a complete chump.

Both are awful wesker in the third movies was just a weiner as phelous calls him and then randomly he's re 5 wesker who never met chris or Claire so that rip off re 5 scene in 4 was out of place since chris was in jail for who knows how long.
I stopped after 4 and I hear 5 was were the continuity gets messed up in the movies phelous ever lost his mind and said not to think. In fact naruto the last is like resident evil retribution both kitten up their continuity.
At least the cg movies are better and are canon.

[RulesofNature]

Okay, this has been bugging me for a long time. Naruto and Sasuke are the reincarnations of sons of the Sage of Six Path. But the first Hokage and Mandara are also reincarnations of the same sons, therefore they're past incarnations of Naruto and Sasuke (making Naruto's complaints about Tsunade being Hokage even more cruel, as he's her grandpa reborn). How the HFIL can Mandara and the First be summoned as ninja zombies then? Their souls are in Naruto and Sasuke. If they were to be summoned, shouldn't that mean that those souls should be ripped out of their new hosts?

 

Which could have been a cool move for Sasuke, they need him in order to revive Mandara. But instead they're able to bring them back without consequence.

[Phantom_999]

Mm well I think it was explained as It wasn't Indra's and Asura's souls that are reborn each time it is their chakra, if I am remembering correctly

Edited by Phantom_999, 27 January 2018 - 09:33 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

The sage explained it to Naruto when he was dying go read that, and decided if it makes sense or not.

[VanitasDS76491]

The sage explained it to Naruto when he was dying go read that, and decided if it makes sense or not.

It makes no sense regardless.