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[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I would like to see Cartman kill Hinata like he killed Scott Tenorman's parents then feed it to Sasuke.

[Shashank95]

You know I've been rereading O-Parts Hunter for like the past 4 days, already on Volume 4, and man it's amazing.   Like I'm reminded the more I read it that the story gets better and better like no bs,  no reverse character development, nothing.  Once again this is written by Masashi Kishimoto's younger twin brother, why can he.... I don't know.  I've got a video planned discussing that particular topic. 

 

 

We all know the beginning of Naruto right: 

 

 

I mean look I understand Naruto's life growing up sucked people looked down upon him, but there were those that looked after him in some way like Iruka

 

 

 

Not to mention the third hokage, there were people that did watched over him in some way: 

 

 

Not to mention that Naruto himself actually had a place to stay an orphan with his own apartment.  

 

 

 

 

But you know the thing is I find this whole thing from people saying that Naruto's life being so  sad and depressing to be nothing more than child's play now.   This is the best that Masashi Kishimoto could accomplish, and the excuse that it's a shounen it can't go the extra mile. 

 

NO! That is blatantly and utterly false cause his younger twin, Seishi Kishimoto proved that it's plausible.. Now take a look at how he tackles that same kinda scene with his own main character, Jio Freed: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I would like to remind everyone that this series, O-Parts Hunter, is in fact A SHOUNEN the same as Naruto, and already there is a vast contrast in difference of quality between the two brothers. I mean seriously  Jio Freed didn't have a place to stay he was homeless treated like kitten.  Naruto on the other hand is like look at me I had a sad past too,  No!  No! No!  Naruto's sad upbringing is CHILD'S PLAY compared to Jio Freed. 

 

Again I'll get more indepth on this at a later date the further I get into it. So for now that's pretty much it. I should also mention that I've got all the volumes of O-Parts Hunter cause quality over quantity all day every day. 

I just found this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Excuse me while I go kill these Ninjas who're cutting onions in my room!

[DrK]

Fanfic Naruto has it the worst. They have him getting crucified at the age of like, 2. Then when he grows into an actual ninja, he just lets the villagers beat him up for no reason, instead of running away or knocking them out harmlessly which he could easily do. Or just make a bunch of clones and get lost in them.

 

I even read one where he allowed a group of burly men to literally rape him without fighting back, even though he was already an experienced ninja, just because it would be immoral to fight back against untrained villagers. So kittening stupid.

 

Of course all this stuff does no permanent damage, and he's later sent away and trained by a mysterious sensei, often from a different series, and he comes back and acts like a tres cool give no cares badass towards all the villagers. And then gets a harem. Which usually doesn't include Sakura because she already got killed off making a total ass of herself by trying to kill Naruto for bringing Sasuke back with minor injuries, or something equally ridiculous.

Edited by DrK, 03 November 2017 - 03:19 PM.

[LuckyChi7]

Fanfic Naruto has it the worst. They have him getting crucified at the age of like, 2. Then when he grows into an actual ninja, he just lets the villagers beat him up for no reason, instead of running away or knocking them out harmlessly which he could easily do. Or just make a bunch of clones and get lost in them.

 

I even read one where he allowed a group of burly men to literally rape him without fighting back, even though he was already an experienced ninja, just because it would be immoral to fight back against untrained villagers. So kittening stupid.

 

Of course all this stuff does no permanent damage, and he's later sent away and trained by a mysterious sensei, often from a different series, and he comes back and acts like a tres cool give no cares badass towards all the villagers. And then gets a harem.

 

 

That is pretty dark, but  I'm looking at the Naruto that was represented in the manga by Masashi Kishimoto.  Not from the perspective of fanfiction. 

 

Like I said it's pretty damn dark, but that's from a fanfic perspective, not in terms of what the Naruto manga showcases. 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 03 November 2017 - 03:17 PM.

[DrK]

That's understood, yeah. I just think it's funny.

 

Because that stuff shows up so consistently.

Edited by DrK, 03 November 2017 - 03:21 PM.

[bthug]

Thanks.

By the way, these mathematicians were so successful with this equation, they got on the news yesterday on BBC. Did you see them on TV ?

I did they broadcasted internationally. They just kept repeating Sakura is a tsundere, it was really weird.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

 

That is pretty dark, but  I'm looking at the Naruto that was represented in the manga by Masashi Kishimoto.  Not from the perspective of fanfiction. 

 

Like I said it's pretty damn dark, but that's from a fanfic perspective, not in terms of what the Naruto manga showcases. 

 

Honestly, Chi, this discussion makes me think of how in a big way, Hiruzen failed Naruto most since he could have tried to give him reassurance about his parents and such, he could have tried to talk to the villagers more, but he failed there besides just to not show favoritism. But he also failed Minato and Kushina's dying wishes, and I think that deep down, perhaps one reason for that is becase of the simple fact he blamed Naruto for his wife Biwako's death since she was a midwife when Kushina was giving birth. Just like how Iruka, initially, had hated Naruto by doing what everyone else in the village did at first; just seeing Naruto was Kurama and nothing being DONE to try to quell that anger.

[DrK]

I mean, he expected that if he told them to treat him as a hero, they'd listen, despite being the most experienced ninja on earth who should know a lot about how jinchuuriki are treated. It's a little nonsensical. He shouldn't have said anything, and they should have genjutsu'd the whisker marks.

 

Like, he already must have known that jinchuuriki were ostracized. And those were jinchuuriki that were not from a village that was JUST completely decimated by the beast being contained.

Edited by DrK, 03 November 2017 - 03:39 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I mean, he expected that if he told them to treat him as a hero, they'd listen, despite being the most experienced ninja on earth who should know a lot about how jinchuuriki are treated. It's a little nonsensical. He shouldn't have said anything, and they should have genjutsu'd the whisker marks.

 

Like, he already must have known that jinchuuriki were ostracized. And those were jinchuuriki that were not from a village that was JUST completely decimated by the beast being contained.

 

I'm not saying that he should have said anything that would be different, just try to ease tensions and also have people be able to look out for Naruto, since you can only imagine that he might have starved and stuff like that, and the fact too Hiruzen wouldn't even just say something simple about Naruto's parents, like that they loved him very much, even if they sacrificed themselves for him.

[DrK]

I guess he might have been worried because of how rare blonde people are? Naruto knows he's not a Yamanaka. And it makes sense that the jinchuuriki would be related to the Kage of that time. It's something tons of people would have figured out if they actually looked at him. One thing I was never clear on is whether or not Kakashi knew he was his sensei's son? Because if he did, then god damn, Kakashi is a total jackass.

 

Seriously, if I'm Minato, and Kakashi knew, after I get resurrected, I'm killing Kakashi.

Edited by DrK, 03 November 2017 - 04:17 PM.

[AHK]

 

Ignoring context and intent that demonstratively shows -why- she is doing it (Because she is unable to save Sasuke from these dark actions he is saying, as you observe) is why your point doesn't work. It's an interesting description likely from a scene of a different manga, given you've not comprehended this scene accurately. 

 

And how so? You keep claiming she does, but have not fit it into the denotation of Tsundere or expanded your argument beyond "Nuh-uh!" essentially. The side of bashing at the end is a bit distasteful.and doesn't really serve to help your argument either. 

Lmao, what? That's exactly what that scene shows. She was on her knees begging him to love her, even though he didn't and never has, seconds after he threatened to murder her (again), murder Naruto (again), and kill or enslave the entire world. Your exact quote was "This does not equate to holding this love above all things, given she did not initiate said love until Sasuke changed", which is garbage, because she was licking at his feet well before Naruto beat his ass and made him change. So no, my point works just fine, it's just another putrid attempt by you to try and change the argument so you can feel right, despite the fact that you aren't. This is the 3rd time that you've charged me with comprehension and been utterly and entirely wrong about it. Maybe you should stop parroting to people that they don't comprehend something until you've made certain that you comprehend it, because clearly that's not the case. 

 

Her entire character is that of a tsundere, from her demeanor to her personality, to how she acted around Naruto. The only time that didn't apply was around Sasuke, where she reverted to a child. It wasn't bashing, it was the truth. Sakura is a doormat around Sasuke. He tried to murder her, Naruto, Kakashi, Tsunade, all her friends, and enslave the world, and she had no spine despite that. He literally walked all over her because of her disgusting, drug like addiction. That isn't bashing, that's a fact.

[Zealotyzer_5]

I'm baaaaaccckkkkk. Tell THE MAN(Nate River or whoever it is) that he can't keep me down. ^^^^ You'll never escape your future.

[LuckyChi7]

So I was watching an old livestream on youtube from the cloudvillage, and I started busting out laughing when Uber said "If Hinata was in the real world  she'd be in a special ed class." 

 

 

 

That was too damn funny, anyway back to reading O-Parts Hunter. 

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

Fanfic Naruto has it the worst. They have him getting crucified at the age of like, 2. Then when he grows into an actual ninja, he just lets the villagers beat him up for no reason, instead of running away or knocking them out harmlessly which he could easily do. Or just make a bunch of clones and get lost in them.

 

I even read one where he allowed a group of burly men to literally rape him without fighting back, even though he was already an experienced ninja, just because it would be immoral to fight back against untrained villagers. So kittening stupid.

 

Of course all this stuff does no permanent damage, and he's later sent away and trained by a mysterious sensei, often from a different series, and he comes back and acts like a tres cool give no cares badass towards all the villagers. And then gets a harem. Which usually doesn't include Sakura because she already got killed off making a total ass of herself by trying to kill Naruto for bringing Sasuke back with minor injuries, or something equally ridiculous.

God, I can't count how many fanfics I've read stories where people extremely over-inflate Naruto's childhood like that - even having shinobi involved, usually Kakashi, in trying to hurt or kill him as a part of an enormous mob...with torches...in the middle of the night...that somehow goes completely unnoticed by Hiruzen until AFTER the damage is already done. It's such a lazy way to try to get readers to feel sorry for him and root for him in the story.

And if not that, then it usually starts with the end of Naruto and Sasuke's fight at the VotE, only for Kakashi to suddenly turn into a douche and either just leave Naruto there to die (which is stupid since he should at least have an idea that Kurama's chakra would heal him, which usually happens) or attempts to kill Naruto himself before conveniently being stopped by said "mysterious new sensei" who just happened to be passing by for some unexplained reason.

Or, as you said, when Naruto returns with Sasuke, getting attacked by Sakura and/or others for no reason other than, "ZOMG! You hurt Sasuke-kun so much! I didn't tell you to do that!" before, again, being conveniently stopped by said "mysterious new sensei".

 

I mean, he expected that if he told them to treat him as a hero, they'd listen, despite being the most experienced ninja on earth who should know a lot about how jinchuuriki are treated. It's a little nonsensical. He shouldn't have said anything, and they should have genjutsu'd the whisker marks.

 

Like, he already must have known that jinchuuriki were ostracized. And those were jinchuuriki that were not from a village that was JUST completely decimated by the beast being contained.

And not just Jinchuriki treatment, but of human nature in general given the wars he was in and such..I mean, Konoha was still on the lookout for Iwa and Kumo because Hiruzen knew that they would want revenge on Konoha due to their losses in the Third Great Shinobi War, especially Iwa at the hands of Minato, so to expect the people who literally just lost family, friends, loved ones, homes, etc., as well as their Kage, to Kurama to simply overlook the fact that it was still alive and held within Naruto was foolish. The only thing that really kept Naruto from becoming like Gaara was the law Hiruzen made that prohibited people from saying or doing anything under punishment of death, and unlike what a lot of aforementioned fanfics have done, it's pretty clear that the people have been following that law albeit grudgingly, which is why the worst we see them do is simply ignore Naruto's existence when they can.

[bthug]

Guys there is this girl I like, but I don't know what to do? Should I attempt to kill her? That seems not only work, but actually be applauded by my fellow crazies i I mean fans.

[TheFirstEvil100]

lol. Funny enough, I see it as something different.

 

Minato: "Hinata? That's what the pink-haired girl name was?"

Naruto: "No, that's Sakura. Hinata is the one with the black hair. You know, she is the Hyuga daughter."

Minato: *looking confused* "....Wait, I'm confused. I thought you told me that the pink-haired girl was your girlfriend."

Naruto: "Ummm....." *smiles a half cocked smile with a "I can explain" look*

*Kushina gets even madder as it gets hotter in the room*

Hashirama: "Uh oh....if I know anything of my own wife...this is not gonna end well."

 

Mito: "What did you say?"

Hashirama: "Yipe"

Obito: "If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you, son...."

 

4 Hours Later

 

Kushina: "So your telling me that you pretened to love this girl Sakura!"

 

*Kushina gets even madder as it gets hotter in the room as everyone knows something is going to happen*

 

Naruto: "Yeah I mean I had no idea what love is, I mean good thing everyone else brought that I thought I knew what love was, I still don't know what it is."

 

*Obito Kushina Rin and Minato slap their heads.*

 

Minato Thinking: "How can my son be this stupid."

[Phantom_999]

Guys there is this girl I like, but I don't know what to do? Should I attempt to kill her? That seems not only work, but actually be applauded by my fellow crazies i I mean fans.

 

WELL that is what Naruto is promoting, so GO FOR IT!  

[DrK]

Or, as you said, when Naruto returns with Sasuke, getting attacked by Sakura and/or others for no reason other than, "ZOMG! You hurt Sasuke-kun so much! I didn't tell you to do that!" before, again, being conveniently stopped by said "mysterious new sensei".

 

Naruto: The Dark Avenger Demon Prince, Chapter 27:

 

A seriously injured Naruto carries a mostly fine but unconscious Sasuke to the village gates. Sakura runs up and slaps him in the face.

 

Sakura: "How dare you bring back Sasuke-kun with a sprained ankle! I didn't ask you to hurt him!! You promised to bring him back!!! Even though you should never have been willing to promise me that, since instead of gradually growing to like and admire you as I did in canon, I continued to treat you no better than a garbage fire!! Die, NARUTO!!!"

 

She stabs Naruto in the shoulder with a kunai.

 

Gaara: "Desert Coffin."

 

Sakura gets crushed by sand and dies.

 

Every other character: "Finally."

Edited by DrK, 04 November 2017 - 10:15 AM.

[My Living Curse]

Guys there is this girl I like, but I don't know what to do? Should I attempt to kill her? That seems not only work, but actually be applauded by my fellow crazies i I mean fans.

 

Well I mean Naruto is a great shoujo series for love advice. I mean just look at the happy and amazing couples at the end!   Ah love! 

[DrK]

Sakura is a doormat around Sasuke. He tried to murder her, Naruto, Kakashi, Tsunade, all her friends, and enslave the world, and she had no spine despite that. He literally walked all over her because of her disgusting, drug like addiction. That isn't bashing, that's a fact.

 

If Sakura had been a real person, she would have been so kittening terrified of Sasuke at the end. Maybe she could still have pulled off her confession in 693, but when he reached out to poke her in 699, she would have been cowering in fear. I mean that could have easily become another Chidori, which would have ended her life instantly. It doesn't matter that the last one was a genjutsu, it would have felt real. She would have probably developed PTSD and jumped to hide behind Kakashi. She would have asked Naruto to come with her to the village gates so that she could even feel safe. It's like the canon Sakura has no sense of self-preservation. 

Edited by DrK, 04 November 2017 - 07:25 AM.