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[ultranx]

Wow! This analyzer is still being allowed here despite him calling people who still like NS delusional?

Ignoring that kittening part of this post, Some Fanfictions. RamenRenegade is finally back and rewriting his "Seven Sins" story.

https://www.fanficti...-the-10th-month

https://www.fanficti...u-Remember-Love

https://www.fanficti...e-Pair-of-Hands

https://www.fanficti.../6149787/1/Hair

https://www.fanficti...The-Way-You-Are

https://www.fanficti...-Butter-Theorem

https://www.fanficti...9/1/Mockingbird

https://www.fanficti...1/Cradle-Robber

https://www.fanficti...herly-Instincts

https://www.fanficti...Cardiopulmonary

 

DigiFruit wrote some of the best NS fanfics ever!

omg "do you remember love" was an awesome fanfic, one of my favorites, need to check if I faved and followed that author xD

the whole shadow clone = reliving your life over and over again an extra time, was really well done. kinda like these time travel theories?

maybe that's why we want to turn back time? chronomancy? chronolords? I love dragonfable for that kinda thing, plus the dragons xD

never played chrono trigger, guess I should, since I like dragon ball, and toriyama was involved with that was well.

 

legendary dragons, aqw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRKI3xxzObw

drakath final battle theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BehLlSWfiU

 

omg digifruit I remember now. digifruit wrote that.

 

A true hero:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySY7HWYDyZQ

Storytellers must be heroes too right?

Jiraiya.

That one book, the one that retold Naruto, but she had a different name instead of Sakura? and even a different ending?

The tale of a gutsy ninja?

sorry, meant to say: The Tale Of The Gutsy Ninja.

http://naruto.wikia....y_Shinobi/Novel

The Tale Of The Utterly Gutsy Shinobi/Novel?

What, Japan only? This needs an English release xD

 

Storytellers were a theme of Tales of Zestiria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYSmEMPNABc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWe005HIn6I

 

Gundam wing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjt6Dlr5Tow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm38fV8LZ6g

 

g gundam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCu5R_WJwRA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeGmnAfSRko

 

.....sigh, nope, no nostalgia glasses here, no more blame game.

 

also from iron man:

 

Everything I've done, everything I'll do today, everything I'll ever do, I do to protect this world. Someone once told me that with great power comes great responsibility. That's usually thought of as a lesson for children. A simple injunction to do the right thing. But there's nothing simple about it. When I put on this armor, I took on more power than any human was ever intended to have... and maybe more responsibility than my heart can truly bear. But today... I will do my job. I will protect you. No matter what it takes...

 

I now understand, Naruto and Kishimoto gave up, but I will never give up til the day I die, just like Misty never gave up on being a pokemon master, gym leader is a stepping stone,

water pokemon gym leader - water pokemon elite 4 member- water pokemon master.

 

Now why did we like Misty and Sakura? Same reason we liked Naruto, and the old Ash, same reason we like The Electric Tale Of Pikachu better, same reason we like Red from the games and Pokemon Adventures manga? Or Pokemon Origins? Pokemon Generations?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzFoJV5DmvI

 

hyper shadic transformation

 

chaos unification, UNITY.

 

Never giving up while working together for a better world. UNITY.

Edited by ultranx, 17 July 2017 - 04:23 AM.

[ultranx]

GUESS I'M A DRAGON BALL LOVER, LIKE TEAMFOURSTAR ARE DRAGON BALL LOVERS, AND MY GIF SIGNATURE HAS DRAGON BALL LOVERS ON IT. IRONY XD

Edited by ultranx, 17 July 2017 - 05:08 AM.

[Shashank95]

 

But note that Naruto does not say he wants her. He says How can I tell her how I feel if I can't even keep my promises? IT does not mean that when he does he will tell her, which is the Red Herring's element here, or what exactly he is feeling, as Sai/Yamato are fililng in/saying what it is, but its not coming from the two of them directly. Note that Sai isn't a reliable person here, having trouble understanding emotion himself, so his words here should not be taken as 100% accurate either.

 

So while there was no attempt, the above is not a promise that he will do it after saving Sasuke. That cannot, and should not be inferred so easily from this.

Why are you bringing in Sai's emotional understanding for something that Naruto clearly replied in the positive?

Sai stated that Naruto likes Sakura, Naruto face faults at his emotions being discovered and case and point, he doesn't deny it. He says that he can't tell her how he feels till he keeps his promise.

You ain't the logical analyzer you think you are, looks to me you're biased towards proving there was nothing between Naruto and Sakura and you're failing terribly at that as well.

[ultranx]

 

But note that Naruto does not say he wants her. He says How can I tell her how I feel if I can't even keep my promises? IT does not mean that when he does he will tell her, which is the Red Herring's element here, or what exactly he is feeling, as Sai/Yamato are fililng in/saying what it is, but its not coming from the two of them directly. Note that Sai isn't a reliable person here, having trouble understanding emotion himself, so his words here should not be taken as 100% accurate either.

 

So while there was no attempt, the above is not a promise that he will do it after saving Sasuke. That cannot, and should not be inferred so easily from this.

Yes, but not everything has an explanation,  there are Endless Possibilities, people do say "GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS."

Edited by ultranx, 17 July 2017 - 05:42 AM.

[ultranx]

 

 

 

TAKE THIS NEGATIVE INTERNET BARRIERS, BREAKING EVERY BARRIER BUT THE MORAL HUMAN DECENCY BARRIER, WITH MY WILLPOWER, MY SPIRIT, I WILL NEVER GIVE UP!!!

MY HAND IS BURNING RED!! ITS LOUD ROAR TELLS ME TO GRASP VICTORY!!!

ERUPTING BURNING FINGER!!!

 

LIMIT BREAK X SURVIVOR

 

 

http://www.narusaku....c=15494&page=18

Edited by ultranx, 17 July 2017 - 06:10 AM.

[Aevrum]

Hahaha, these passive-aggressive posts on the last pages. Guys, chill down, everyone is able to write what he/she thinks.^^ There are also a few points where Analyzer is right.

 
But note that Naruto does not say he wants her. He says How can I tell her how I feel if I can't even keep my promises? IT does not mean that when he does he will tell her, which is the Red Herring's element here, or what exactly he is feeling, as Sai/Yamato are fililng in/saying what it is, but its not coming from the two of them directly. Note that Sai isn't a reliable person here, having trouble understanding emotion himself, so his words here should not be taken as 100% accurate either.
 
So while there was no attempt, the above is not a promise that he will do it after saving Sasuke. That cannot, and should not be inferred so easily from this.

You are right, it's of course no promise. But that's even the point of the scene.
The most important thing to him is to not be a hypocrite or liar to her - to keep his own integrity.
There are many things holding him back from a confession.

Do you remember during his first fight with Sasuke, how he thought about how he foolishly soothed her worries about Sasuke and his promises about him that then seemed to turn out wrong?

The cover of chapter 236, 'The promise I could not keep', summarizes it pretty well: "I stayed away from sorrow and pain ... I wanted to protect that smiling face."

As cliché as it is - him confessing or them getting together is secondary to him to seeing her smile, making her happy and/or being 'able to look into the mirror'.

And with that, I don't know where a red herring could be in this scene.
Beside that, it is pretty clear what he is feeling. I honestly have never seen any not-pairing-obsessed person, who GENUINELY thought that Naruto didn't love Sakura. Again, why should he have to outright tell "I love her", or something like that, to Sai in that situation? It would be so out of character and what he says shows us more than clearly what he feels, that he loves her, if you think back at all the chapters before.

The 'red herrings' (I honestly hate that word. They would be just super normal development and foreshadowing if NS have had happened) were in other places. Like the scene with Yamato, where we are hinted that Sakura might love Naruto back. Or the parallels that make it seem like it's the natural course of things and going to happen.

Edited by Aevrum, 17 July 2017 - 04:55 PM.

[ultranx]

Hahaha, these passive-aggressive posts on the last pages. Guys, chill down, everyone is able to write what he/she thinks.^^ There are also a few points where Analyzer is right.

You are right, it's of course no promise. But that's even the point of the scene.
The most important thing to him is to not be a hypocrite or liar to her - to keep his own integrity.

Do you remember during his first fight with Sasuke, how he thought about how he foolishly soothed her worries about Sasuke and his promises about him that then seemed to turn out wrong?

The cover of chapter 236, 'The promise I could not keep', summarizes it pretty well: "I stayed away from sorrow and pain ... I wanted to protect that smiling face."

As cliché as it is - him confessing or them getting together is secondary to him to seeing her smile and/or being able to look into the mirror.

And with that, I don't know where a retcon could be in this scene.
Beside that, it is pretty clear what he is feeling. I honestly have never seen any not-pairing-obsessed person, who GENUINELY thought that Naruto didn't love Sakura. Again, why should he have to outright tell "I love her", or something like that, to Sai? It would be so out of character.

The 'red herrings' were in other places. Like the scene with Yamato, where we are hinted that Sakura might love Naruto back. Or the parallels that make it seem like it's the natural course of things and going to happen.

integrity, RESPECTING EACH OTHER?

 

...click watch on youtube for something epic? I think so xD

Edited by ultranx, 17 July 2017 - 11:23 AM.

[rocci]

Yes, you did for 15 years, -if- you still hold the belief it was going that way by the time the series was nearing the final hundred chapters. Even more so if you're still holding on to the belief it was meant that way when the Author continuously states otherwise. I like NS, but I'm not a delusional either.
 
I'll argue Kishimoto shouldn't have done a Hinata/Sakura/Naruto love triangle, but will concede it did draw interest.

There are no hinatanarutosakura love triangle.
The (oneside) love triangle in naruto is naruto sakura sasuke.
That's how the focus of romance in the manga.

I will not call both starcraft and naruto have great story. Maybe in their own respective genre, but not overall as a story. Both of them are dumb down version of their respective "inspiration".


I have a question for you
1. Are Karin, lee, and ino feeling invalid and red herring?
2. If NS canon, does it mean nh & ss red herring?

Edited by rocci, 17 July 2017 - 11:39 AM.

[ultranx]

There are no hinatanarutosakura love triangle.
The (oneside) love triangle in naruto is naruto sakura sasuke.
That's how the focus of romance in the manga.

I will not call both starcraft and naruto have great story. Maybe in their own respective genre, but not overall as a story. Both of them are dumb down version of their respective "inspiration".


I have a question for you
1. Are Karin, lee, and ino feeling invalid and red herring?
2. If NS canon, does it mean nh & ss red herring?

https://www.fanficti...-Next-Adventure

 

is that why boruto just appeared in this fic? shinachiku did seem happier in his life than boruto did, heck the narusaku family seemed happier. multiverse theory?

 

Plus all the dragon ball families seem happier in dragon ball super than naruto with boruto....

Yet dragon ball super is bad to some people right?

What about sonic as a whole? 

what about the old 4kids dub of pokemon?

Edited by ultranx, 17 July 2017 - 12:03 PM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

 
Because Naruto didn't. Naruto's response was how could i? NOT I will after. 
 
This is one of the bigger misinterpreted scenes, because there is a mistake in expected progression. This thread itself is resolved during the Fake Confession. Sakura offers to remove the weight of Naruto and have him come back, I.E., the obstacle would be gone. Then we understand that the promise isn't about keeping it to Sakura, its a personal goal. So this little bit's purpose is more or less to play and build up to the Fake Confession. 
 
There was nothing between Naruto and Sakura in terms of actual romance but there is definitely a bond, and a one-sided sort of love. But the Fake Confession is a strong argument if you want to argue that there was never a love from Naruto's side, and it was a crush, if that's the sort of argument you believe in. I don't know if that's the reading to follow mind, and I think it's fine to believe there was a one-sided love that waned and died.
 
 
Kishimoto himself said there was a love triangle. I read that there was a love triangle.
 
This cannot be denied.
 
1: Karin, Lee, and Ino are NOT Red Herrings, particularly the latter two, as there was never a belief or suggestion they would end up together. I think any instance of Karin being a Red Herring was really hurt when Sasuke betrayed her. Maybe some small instances in the War Arc may have been seen that way, but this could have been fans over-reading the material and seeing things that weren't there. 
 
2: If NS Became Canon and you pullled up SS and NH moments to be just ploys, then yes. But this would require a rewrite of things, you can't just change the ending.

Actually, Chapter 693 debunks Naruto only wanting to bring Sasuke back for himself. He specifically said to Kakashi- "I have a promise to keep to Sakura-Chan." That shows he was doing it for her.

Edited by Illnevergiveup3, 17 July 2017 - 01:58 PM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

You're correct, but remove the promise and Naruto would still do the same thing. That is what the Fake Confession showed us, that Naruto's desire to save Sasuke is personal. \
 
I saw some fanfics linked, I'll take a read of them.

you're trying to be hypothetical when Naruto himself debunks what you're trying to argue about. Naruto himself stated AFTER the situation that he was saving Sasuke based on the promise.

[Shashank95]

 

You're correct, but remove the promise and Naruto would still do the same thing. That is what the Fake Confession showed us, that Naruto's desire to save Sasuke is personal. \

 

I saw some fanfics linked, I'll take a read of them. 

"How can I tell her when I can't even keep my promises?" Which means that he intended to tell her but held back because of the promise he made. If you deny that, you're the one that is delusional.

 

“If you give up what you want most for what you think you should want more, you'll end up miserable.” 
― Brandon Sanderson, The Hero of Ages

 

This above quote from one of my favorite author pretty much sums up NS and NH in a nutshell.

Edited by Shashank95, 17 July 2017 - 04:43 PM.

[Aevrum]

integrity, RESPECTING EACH OTHER?

 
...click watch on youtube for something epic? I think so xD

I think you understood my post, and that part especially, a bit wrongly...
I edited the post to make things a bit clearer.

Edited by Aevrum, 17 July 2017 - 04:56 PM.

[ultranx]

Actually, Chapter 693 debunks Naruto only wanting to bring Sasuke back for himself. He specifically said to Kakashi- "I have a promise to keep to Sakura-Chan." That shows he was doing it for her.

 

you're trying to be hypothetical when Naruto himself debunks what you're trying to argue about. Naruto himself stated AFTER the situation that he was saving Sasuke based on the promise.

 

"How can I tell her when I can't even keep my promises?" Which means that he intended to tell her but held back because of the promise he made. If you deny that, you're the one that is delusional.

 

“If you give up what you want most for what you think you should want more, you'll end up miserable.” 
― Brandon Sanderson, The Hero of Ages

 

This above quote from one of my favorite author pretty much sums up NS and NH in a nutshell.

AGREED 9000%, THIS IS EPIC, ALSO:

Edited by ultranx, 17 July 2017 - 05:49 PM.

[Aevrum]

 
There's no delusion here: The question How can I does not equal I will after. There's no assertation. This is what the Fake Confession is about, it's "You don't have to fulfill the promise, come with me and be happy." Naruto then calls her a liar, and can tell he's being manipulated, and knows her feelings are not for him. Granted, it's a great scene all in all.

I think you didn't understand him fully. When Naruto was saying these things to Sai, the scenes you mentioned didn't happen yet. He is not talking about sometime after the war, he is talking about the timeframe around the dialogue with Sai.
Of course he would never confess after everything that happened there and during the war and with Sakura never even bothering to clear things up (and to properly apologize). [I also love the scene because of it's emotionality, but it's also one important turning point that makes parts of canon Sakura look absolutely pathetic and disgusting in my opinion. How desultory from the first moment on that whole confession is going on, and how she acts afterwards as if nothing happened and seems to be HAPPY even, is in my opinion a big ceasura to how she acted before and how vague everything was. It is really insulting towards Naruto. But all that is a whole different topic.]

@I'llnevergiveup: The point was that Naruto was going after Sasuke is irrelevant to the promise, as he genuinely wanted to save Sasuke, out of brotherly love. This is where he is alike to Sakura, as they both want to save Sasuke, though only Naruto is strong enough to stop him. I.E. He's saving Sasuke for them both.

But that's the thing - that him going after Sasuke IS irrelevant to the promise.

It doesn't change what the promise means and indicates, because the two things are not as much intertwined as it seems. He also fights for HER (when he fights against Sasuke he is always also thinking about that promise) and fights regardless, knowing WHY he has promised her this in the first place and knowing what probably is going to happen when he succeeds.

Edited by Aevrum, 17 July 2017 - 06:14 PM.

[Aevrum]

You're correct, the scenes did not happen yet, but this scene is a build up to the others, and that is what I am declaring is important to understand.

As you said, every scene is a build up to another (That's really always and everywhere the case), and the dialogue with Sai is a build up to all the little things that happened before it in terms of NS and SS. That's what you seemingly do not think important to understand.

You talked about how that scene would show
nothing between Naruto and Sakura, or that it even doesn't imply that Naruto loves her - but that's just utterly wrong in every aspect.

Shashank was talking about this fact, and here anything that happens afterwards IS NOT important for the interpretation.

This is one of the scenes/arcs that made Sakura less heroine-ish. I personally like it, but it made her character less likeable, something Kishimoto wasn't fond of. So the things you mention here some others felt as well, and it lead to Kishimoto trying harder with Sakura further down.

I don't really think that he tried better further down. Afterwards we didn't really saw more of her. It became even less. Plus the damage done after a couple of chapters and scenes later, where she did not bother to talk about it, think about it or even be regretful about it for more than one panel, was irreparable.

Personally, the moment where she says that Naruto gave her hope again that everything will be like it was, is killing me.
I can't describe how wrong this feels. She only thinks about Sasuke here, Sasuke there, totally blocking out what happened before or what she did to Naruto. She ignores how he talked about that they will kill each other with their next fight, clinging on the hope that there is hope for Sasuke.
It destroys everything the fake confession scene was for, to protect Naruto from destroying himself, and the last bit of good intentions.

I think Kishi gave completely up on her somewhere along the way afterwards. There was always this thought lingering that she will have an important role somewhere somehow, but that was never the case.

In a sense, the promise and Naruto's own volition to save Sasuke are intertwined: They're both desires to see their team-mate returned, and seek out to do the same thing. Remove the promise and it doesn't change. The promise adds to the determination and weight of the matter.

As I said: They are not as dependent on each other AS IT SEEMS.
"Remove the promise and it doesn't change"
But also remove the fact that he chases Sasuke also for himself - it would not enhance the promise in any way, it would even make it look bad.

The two things enhance each other, but can easily stand on their own.

Edited by Aevrum, 17 July 2017 - 07:41 PM.

[ultranx]

the problem is marketing. money, greed. its becoming more important to people than the truly important things.

sonic youth even quotes:
"its a neverending story" but live life also mentions "every story, every journey(which is what's most important) has its end, so we got to live life to the fullest while we can."

even the world will have an end. live life guys.



....better yet name this thread the thread of positivity, or the thread of true happiness? or the eternal thread? xD
okay now I'm going to bed xD
also lets rename this tumblr post for example to narusaku = true love part 1?

and the second part into narusaku = true love part 2? xD

ironic how both title names for each picture start with the letter T right? xD

 

too happy to sleep xD

Edited by ultranx, 17 July 2017 - 08:06 PM.

[Aevrum]

You're misunderstanding what I was originally saying: I was originally saying that it does not -imply- that Naruto is going to pursue her after  Sasuke is rescued. It's objective that Naruto at the very least in manga material has a crush on Sakura, that is not being argued, and is a stance I personally push into close or more so one-sided love. This scene sets up the Fake Confession because it turns it into a question: If you didn't have to go after Sasuke because of the promise, would you still do it?
 
Creative Analysis Insertation: In that situation, Sakura is a Contagonist, or in Hero Journey terms, a Temptress I.E., she is trying to get Naruto away from the path of saving Sasuke, then she will take on the task herself. This is disliked by some readers though, because she's doing it for her own reasons: Guilt, rather than something more noble. It's not uncommon in hero stories, and a refusal/resistance by the Hero typically comes next. A tragic Hero however, might succumb, and here, dark things can happen. 
 
Back to my point: The quote from the Last actually applies really well here, because if Sakura's words were true, and not fake, her love would be shallow for Sasuke, and we'd question her love on Naruto too, because now he's this cool hero after defeating Pain, and that makes her switch? Naruto calls her on this when she lists reasons why she should switch, and it's basically the author saying that love does not work that way, and indeed, love does not work that way. 

You are misunderstanding was Shashank was saying and I'm trying to elaborate.
We understand that it is not implying that he will pursue her.

But in the original post there you also wrote something different - you seriously doubted that the scene shows any kind of indirect love confession. And that is just completely wrong.

I totally disagree with this kind of 'setting up' interpretation. The reader knows since Sasuke defected and the scene at the gate, that he would still chase after Sasuke, no matter what. Their brotherly bond - as ridiculous as it sometimes is - is the most important thing throughout the series. There is no such a question as you wrote it in the first place. Why should he stop chasing after Sasuke only because there is no promise anymore?

1. The temptation is a different one - don't risk your life, Sasuke is not that important/lost, you can relax and be with the girl you always wanted.

2. The most important thing that makes Sakura look so bad is not because she is taking action out of guilt - it is HOW she acts and reacts afterwards. She knows how important Sasuke is for him and what he feels for her - but still is trying to abuse this love AND destroy his chance on saving his friend. Plus how she doesn't really care anymore afterwards.

3. The circumstances drastically changed right before the confession took place - Obito talked with Naruto about Sasuke and the Uchiha clan, what did not leave Naruto a choice in the first place - he HAD to not accept Sakura's 'proposal', no matter if it would have been genuine or not.
This again destroys that 'choice and temptation' scheme.


What quote are you referring to again? ^^

We would actually not question her love, because everyone knows, why she is suddenly confessing like that. She didn't become all lovey-dovey after he defeated Pain and came back as a hero, what changed in the meantime in terms of Naruto's status that would make her look like a hypocrite? She even knew before that, that he is the strongest, going to be Hokage, yada yada yada...
The circumstances would only be the dam-breaker, building up on scenes that we now refer to as 'red herrings'.
And Naruto actually doesn't call her out on that - he calls her out on the circumstances.

Edited by Aevrum, 17 July 2017 - 08:27 PM.

[Aevrum]

Okay, no, objectively there is no "indirect" confession. It is not a true confession, the entire moment is meant to manipulate. Further, this being a true confession by Sakura, or indirect, just isn't supported by the events that follow up to and at the end at all. It doesn't work that way, and that would be a mis-reading.

How is the scene manipulative? What does it exactly manipulate? I honestly don't understand you here. It is misleading Sai to not 100% correct assumptions, because he doesn't understand the whole Team 7 dynamic, but that's all. What does it change from the fact that Naruto loves her? You can't tell me he isn't, you know he would NEVER answer like that else. He isn't thinking suddenly "Oh, Kishi wants to manipulate the readers, let's throw something ridiculous in". It's not working like that.

I'm not saying that she is honest, where did that came up from? I'm just lazy and don't want to add the 'fake' everytime.

In Sakura's mind, he is chasing after Sasuke, despite the pain it causes him, because of the promise, rather than his own desires. This is corrected when Naruto reveals he wants to go after Sasuke for himself as well.

That is only partly true. Sai is assuming this in a way, saying that it is causing him pain (adding that he doesn't truly understand his bond with Sasuke).

But Sakura knows a little bit better. Yes, she thinks that she is the main driving factor for him keeping going on and that this causes him unimaginable pain.
But she realizes after Sai and Shikamaru talking, that chasing after Sasuke brings him only pain - she thinks she has to relieve him from this pain with removing the most important burden she thinks is holding him back - the promise.

But her mission is more complex than that. Even after Naruto calls her out she wants to kill Sasuke now - BECAUSE she thinks that he only brings him pain. It does not have to do with any burden from her promise and she knew that from the beginning.

It was either coming back with him and spare him from anything Sasuke-related, or take the things in her own hands once and for all, no matter how he will react (Because she knows how he feels about Sasuke).

1: Not truly, you're basically hitting it the same way with different diction: Sakura is releasing Naruto of his promise and wants him to go back with her and abandon his course.

Exactly. But with different thoughts than you elaborated.

2: What do you mean she doesn't care anymore? She's frustrated that she can't release Naruto from this weight that has bothered her, and takes it into her own hands to stop Sasuke at this point, since stopping Naruto did not work.

She doesn't act out of frustration. That was always planned (like the poison for the Kunai) , because she didn't honestly believe that Naruto will come back with her.
After trying to kill Sasuke and utterly failing she doesn't care anymore. She knows that she fuc*ed up, but it is never even mentioned again. Sasuke is again causing him pain, and Naruto is talking about how they both will die, but the only real thing she can think about is the hope that everything will be okay again thanks to Naruto. Where is the resolve she showcased before? It makes everything she did look like a farce.

3: Naruto didn't -have- to do anything. He could have gone home with Sakura, it's just that it was the clear wrong choice.

Of course he COULD theoratically have gone home. But do you really think that after that he could still simply walk away?

The quote I'm referring to is about Is about love not fading away, "when a girl truly loves someone..." etc.
 
Naruto does call her out on her words being false and not genuine, I.E., not a confession, and that her love for Sasuke didn't just disappear.

Ah, OK, you meant that.
Yes, Kishi used that motive there.
But that's also only there because they are resolving things.

I, on a personal level, do not agree with that quote, but that of course doesn't change a thing

[ultranx]

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