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#81 Bail o' Lies

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 10:32 AM

why people keep asking this dude abour romance ? like stop since the ending this has been giving a lot of interviews and it generally just piss off everyone

it seems like he is not even sure about what says and only speaks what comes to his mind at first without even thinking if what he's going to say makes some sense to what he said before in other interviews

I see japanese fandom on 2ch is getting mad about this so I just wonder if he's gonna refuse to reply any question about romance in his next interviews

Oh they still get made whenever he brings up the romance. Thank you for informing us. I just sighed personally. As the reason they keep asking is Kishimoto changing the ending made the romance the hot button issue. They ask it because to the interviewer that's what they feel their readers want to learn the truth about. What will make people want to read their interview. Therefor be able to keep their job. Even boruto is an continuation of the pairing debate, and so a continuation of the hot topic.  Will nH's son marry SS's daughter, or will they make another girl more similar to his mother? Is the girl more Sakura's or Sasuke's daughter? What does that say about the pairings in Naruto? Did kishimoto really intended for those pairing to happen or did he really want NS/SNS. Are NS style romances more interesting then nH style romances?



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Posted 02 February 2017 - 11:53 AM

These persons, Forneverworld ( is that his right username ? ) and another one or two, need to get more into other things in their lives. I feel bad for them. They seem to focus much on a pairing. Or they talk on YouTube from time to time ?

 

I wonder sometimes, according to what I see in here, how they can do other stuff in their lives when they focus much on a franchise and a pairing.


Edited by T XD, 02 February 2017 - 11:54 AM.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 12:04 PM

These persons, Forneverworld ( is that his right username ? ) and another one or two, need to get more into other things in their lives. I feel bad for them. They seem to focus much on a pairing. Or they talk on YouTube from time to time ?

 

I wonder sometimes, according to what I see in here, how they can do other stuff in their lives when they focus much on a franchise and a pairing.

They are victims of friend zoned by their crush. People like this tend to watch anime only for the pairing/romance side of it.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 01:22 PM

tim is a rabid nh fan he wasn't always like that though but the man is 25 and he still can't stop defending kishimoto's decision on how to end naruto's story 

WHAT he is 25 good god he looks bad for his age I'm going to be 30 this year and I look way better then him for my age.

 

I blocked Forneverworld and Sawyer.

Good for you man :D

 

These persons, Forneverworld ( is that his right username ? ) and another one or two, need to get more into other things in their lives. I feel bad for them. They seem to focus much on a pairing. Or they talk on YouTube from time to time ?

 

I wonder sometimes, according to what I see in here, how they can do other stuff in their lives when they focus much on a franchise and a pairing.

Well they are sad loners who I bet look up pic of Hinata Naked cause they love her so much or maybe they think of what they can do to bash Sakura even more.

 

So no they don't go out in the reasl world cause it would be hard for them, I mean for me man I can't go out for that long in winter cause I have rheumatoid arthritis and it kills my feet, I mean one time I couldn't even walk I was crying in pain because of it.



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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:31 PM

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'That's a big difference'. It is a 'clear' difference but not a big one. Honestly i don't understand why they are statisfied with Boruto as a character because he doesn't offer a interesting Characterdesign. Besides not getting much attention from his father he is just a 'normal' child. The only thing which makes him somehow interesting is just the fact that he is the son of Naruto and the disciple of Sasuke -> which at the end just results in a younger/lame-clone version of the old generation. So we don't acutally change many stuff (well, we get some new kind of eye-power later on.. what a surprise)

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"it can be hard to express who they are". Thats IMO a stupid reason and a false one on top of that. Kishimoto is basically saying that the 'childrends' are needed to be similiar to their parents so everyone knows that child XX is the son of YY and ZZ. It just limits the design of the next generation and actually showcase that the guys behind the manga are afraid to come out of the comfort-zone and try making 'new/interesting'-stuff.

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"the Naruto story kept getting more introspective and darker and darker" thats not true, and kishimoto is lying here. Part 1 of Naruto was much more darker than Shippuden. Land-of-Waves-Arc + Chunin-Exam-Arc had more Dark-content than the whole Shippuden story. Just because you let some characters (Jiraiya, Asuma, Neji) die doesn't mean its dark-content. It's not compareable with the content from Part-1 where Gato did a public execution, where fresh genins kill each other in the Chunin-Exam or Where Zabuza is cutting Gatos head off with a kunia. They already softened the theme so Shippuden can hit a larger viewerbase for targeting the younger audience. "something that the younger boys and girls can also enjoy" Shippuden is already made for little kids at the age of 12 (or atleast with the mindset of a 12 year old kid), so why is it needed to go even lower? 

 

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Let me guess, propably characters at the same age as Naruto but we didn't see them in 'Naruto' because we were too lazy to itroduce/implement new potential for the Story. Atleast we got all the villains with 'edo-tensei' back so we didn't need new characters.

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"And with Naruto and Sasuke becoming so strong and the battles getting bigger and bigger..." Thats a result of the poor Powerinflation-managment Kishimoto did. Turning Sasuke and Naruto into halfgods at the age of 16 was just too rushed and just ends up making things complicated in the future. How do you want to create exciting/interesting/close battles when Naruto and Sasuke could technically beat everyone withing a minute? Yes, you have to introduce new OP-Villains out of nowhere and make the fights bigger and bigger until we really rached Dragonball-Z level. And we already know how 'excitement' we can be when we introduce a OP-Villain out of nowhere (Kaguya). Thats why at the end of Naruto there was nothing what had something to do with 'Ninjas' at all. We will propably continue this part in Boruto.

 

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I already made a post about this part in a other thread. He just contradicts himself and doesn't make sense. If we continue Kishimotos logic in the next Manga then it only means that Sarada isn't introduced as a special Character, and Boruto is ending up with this girl

 

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Edited by Riverkid, 02 February 2017 - 03:32 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:49 PM

@ Riverkid : Sarada is like Sakura in the Boruto manga. So, yup. Boruto has to end up with ChoCho.


Edited by T XD, 02 February 2017 - 03:51 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:55 PM

Sarada is like Sakura in the Boruto manga. So, yup. Boruto has to end up with ChoCho.

 

Wouldn't surprise me actually, but imagine if unlike her mother she actually does end up with Boruto.. and then Kishi comes out in a interview saying; 

 

 

"This was to atone for my sins for what happened to NaruSaku when the naruto manga ended!" 

 

 

Me: "Please that's no atonement that's a consolation prize, sure I think they look cute together, but that doesn't mean I'll be satisfied after all the kitten you've said about NS ... You had the power to make it canon, and you're second thoughts about Sakura ruined what people liked about her." 


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:58 PM


 

I already made a post about this part in a other thread. He just contradicts himself and doesn't make sense. If we continue Kishimotos logic in the next Manga then it only means that Sarada isn't introduced as a special Character, and Boruto is ending up with this girl

 

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Actually it would be someone not even introduced, Sakura was introduced chapter three, (Sasuke is in the background in chapter one) Hinata was not introduced over a year later, you'd think if she was so well planned we'd see her in the class during team assignments etc but nothing.

 

Considering how early Naruto was chasing after Sakura, from Kishi's answer the triangle would be planned since the beginning, so her character would already exist in his canon world so would be part of the background in the classroom. But she doesn't get introduced early instead she gets introduced the same time as the rest of the rookies. no cameo stalking in the background nothing she just appeared.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:00 PM

 

Wouldn't surprise me actually, but imagine if unlike her mother she actually does end up with Boruto.. and then Kishi comes out in a interview saying; 

 

 

"This was to atone for my sins for what happened to NaruSaku when the naruto manga ended!" 

 

 

Me: "Please that's no atonement that's a consolation prize, sure I think they look cute together, but that doesn't mean I'll be satisfied after all the kitten you've said about NS ... You had the power to make it canon, and you're second thoughts about Sakura ruined what people liked about her." 

I think Sarada and Boruto will happen cause he knows they're like NS.


Edited by T XD, 02 February 2017 - 04:51 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:08 PM

Kishi "I just thought of Sakura as a character.. no one special." 

 

 

Really then what's this? 

 

 

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MOOTTHERFUUCCKER YOU WROTE THIS DAMN MOVIE AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT YOU TREAT HER LIKE KIBA GTFOH!!

 

 

ALSO WHERE IS YOU'RE SO CALLED HEROINE/LOVE INTEREST FOR NARUTO THAT YOU SO HAPPILY MENTIONED IN THE INTERVIEW!!

 

 

 

ugh.. clearly i still had alot on my mind from before which i thought i gotten everything cleared, not that i'm complaining  :sweat:


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 04:11 PM

@ LuckyChi7: Nah. These are nothing. Just a regular character that accompanies him a lot during his journey :P



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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:43 PM

Kishi "I just thought of Sakura as a character.. no one special." 

 

 

Really then what's this? 

 

 

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MOOTTHERFUUCCKER YOU WROTE THIS DAMN MOVIE AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT YOU TREAT HER LIKE KIBA GTFOH!!

 

 

ALSO WHERE IS YOU'RE SO CALLED HEROINE/LOVE INTEREST FOR NARUTO THAT YOU SO HAPPILY MENTIONED IN THE INTERVIEW!!

 

 

 

ugh.. clearly i still had alot on my mind from before which i thought i gotten everything cleared, not that i'm complaining  :sweat:

seeing these images makes me miss them.   :arg:


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:49 PM

seeing these images makes me miss them.   :arg:

I know the feeling. Ask LuckyChi7 and Liu Bie :P



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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:54 PM

Contradiction in every interview he does.

 

I hope when he said that he learned from the Naruto manga on the know-how and stuff, is that he won't follow much other persons control of his writing of the manga along with the characters development assassination.

 

I think he'll do more of what he intends on doing in his next manga. 

 

Then I guess his next manga will be quite a short one, as I understand it, the best parts of Naruto story came from his first editor and not Kishi himself :)


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 08:58 PM

 

Then I guess his next manga will be quite a short one, as I understand it, the best parts of Naruto story came from his first editor and not Kishi himself :)

Come on. You're exaggerating. There are best parts from his ideas, and from both him and the editor.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:17 PM

Come on. You're exaggerating. There best parts from his ideas and from both him and the editor.

Yeah, I am, but at the same time, I have no faith in his next project being anything worthwhile. 


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:55 PM

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Posted 02 February 2017 - 10:05 PM

Yeah, I am, but at the same time, I have no faith in his next project being anything worthwhile. 

I honestly just want him to go to his next project so he would stop talking about Naruto.

 

They are victims of friend zoned by their crush. People like this tend to watch anime only for the pairing/romance side of it.

I have only seen two videos by him and I agree with your statement. He also has an incredibly large entitlement problem. One was him acting entitled over a Japanese poll, with him saying that it the US fanbase that makes those game successful so the Japanese fans should just shut up and let them decided. And the other one was him whining about how girls don't appreciate that work guys put into dates enough.

 

WHAT he is 25 good god he looks bad for his age I'm going to be 30 this year and I look way better then him for my age.

 

Well they are sad loners who I bet look up pic of Hinata Naked cause they love her so much or maybe they think of what they can do to bash Sakura even more.

 

So no they don't go out in the real world cause it would be hard for them, I mean for me man I can't go out for that long in winter cause I have rheumatoid arthritis and it kills my feet, I mean one time I couldn't even walk I was crying in pain because of it.

Honestly with that voice I've never been able to tell if he was younger then me or not. Even with how he looks. Good to know he's older then me.

 

Wouldn't surprise me actually, but imagine if unlike her mother she actually does end up with Boruto.. and then Kishi comes out in a interview saying; 

 

"This was to atone for my sins for what happened to NaruSaku when the naruto manga ended!" 

 

Me: "Please that's no atonement that's a consolation prize, sure I think they look cute together, but that doesn't mean I'll be satisfied after all the kitten you've said about NS ... You had the power to make it canon, and you're second thoughts about Sakura ruined what people liked about her." 

BS is the default pairing for Boruto like NS was for Naruto. In order for there to be a change in the pairing another girl would have to appear that becomes more popular then Salad that the vocal fanatical nH fans want Bolt to get together with. Which seems unlikely because from what I've seen Salad is probably the most popular child to come out of the ending. Unless the daughter is somehow well like and I don't know about it. then again it more likely Salad will be stolen by cups then anything else. kishi probably wouldn't say it exactly like that he would probably go on about them, "original intending for nH all along, but they saw how popular NS was and how it made such as good story for them to write they decided to make the main pairing in Boruto a copy of it." Yes, he is that stupid and predictable with these interviews.


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 10:06 PM

Having given this more thought, I've changed my mind. Really, the fact that Sakura more or less gets her own movie (Road to Ninja) is proof positive of her being a special character. Not to mention prior interviews with Kishi insisting that he was gonna do a better job showing her as the heroine. As such:

 

 

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This response is undefendable. You cannot defend bulls-h-i-t. What Kishi should have said was: "This was a decision I went back and forth on. For a while, I had intended for Naruto to end up with Sakura, but due to fan support for Hinata, I ultimately decided during the 4th Shinobi War arc that he would end up with Hinata instead. To anyone disappointed with my decision, I'm sorry. It was a tough decision and not one I ever intended to upset anyone ever. Regardless, I thank all my readers for their years of support and wish them the best."


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Posted 02 February 2017 - 10:19 PM

Having given this more thought, I've changed my mind. Really, the fact that Sakura more or less gets her own movie (Road to Ninja) is proof positive of her being a special character. Not to mention prior interviews with Kishi insisting that he was gonna do a better job showing her as the heroine. As such:

 

 

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This response is undefendable. You cannot defend bulls-h-i-t. What Kishi should have said was: "This was a decision I went back and forth on. For a while, I had intended for Naruto to end up with Sakura, but due to fan support for Hinata, I ultimately decided during the 4th Shinobi War arc that he would end up with Hinata instead. To anyone disappointed with my decision, I'm sorry. It was a tough decision and not one I ever intended to upset anyone ever. Regardless, I thank all my readers for their years of support and wish them the best."

That was kishimoto being honest with us, and thought he was going to leave boruto to his successor while work on his scifi manga. Now we are dealing with is the kishimoto that has to support Boruto because he stuck their. So like with the last that involves lying, a lot.







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