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[TouKen4Life3g]

Ya but rukia and ichigo had more development than ichigo and orihime, plus orihime really didn't do much in the series. That's another at least ichigo and rukia are still friends and still see each unlike naruto and sakura who can't be allowed to be in the same scene together. If ichiruki had happened there relationship could have had alot more done with the two in love plus I have a feeling she would make Ichigo her lt.

It doesn't matter. Orihime has a love arrow; therefore, she's the easy pick to win. It's what rocci would say, but I know what he means. Still, not a fan for unseen and underdeveloped pairing when another one is "stronger" despite on unclear intention.

[VanitasDS76491]

It doesn't matter. Orihime has a love arrow; therefore, she's the easy pick to win. It's what rocci would say, but I know what he means. Still, not a fan for unseen and underdeveloped pairing when another one is "stronger" despite on unclear intention.

Just like naruto and hinata and Sasuke and Sakura were their development is non existent as opposed to naruto and Sakura and big stretch sasuke and Karin.

[DeathGodMack]

Just like naruto and hinata and Sasuke and Sakura were their development is non existent as opposed to naruto and Sakura and big stretch sasuke and Karin.

How is ichihime like naruhina and how is it a big stretch? Can people look at this without their ichiruki/ishihime bias? No?

Edited by DeathGodMack, 02 January 2017 - 08:03 AM.

[VanitasDS76491]

How is ichihime like naruhina and how is it a big stretch? Can people look at this without their ichiruki/ishihime bias? No?

Well ichiruki was pretty in the majority of the series were ichihime was only in the hunco mundo arc.

[Phantom_999]

And that doesn't count for something?  You can honestly say with a straight face that the moe booby princess has an entire arc or saga dedicated to her?

Edited by Phantom_999, 03 January 2017 - 06:27 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

And that doesn't count for something?  You can honestl say with a straight face that the moe booby princess has an entire arc or saga dedicated to her?

I'm not really saying that with orihime cause at first when hunco mundo start she had some good development but after ichigo gets killed by ulquiorra it got undone and orihime went back to being useless during the fullbring and final arc.

[Phantom_999]

Mmm, well that is a problem with her character then, but that doesn't mean that it makes Ichihime unbelievable. That is just poor character handling.

[AHK]

How is ichihime like naruhina and how is it a big stretch? Can people look at this without their ichiruki/ishihime bias? No?

Lmfao how was it not? Can you look at it with your Ichihime bias? No?

[alexander]

Lmfao how was it not? Can you look at it with your Ichihime bias? No?

 

This is just one big circular argument.

 

And to make a point. I don't remember Orihime stalking Ichigo, being wholy unhelpful and never being there for him when he needs help, and still winning over his affection despite being pretty much a stranger to Ichigo. So yeah, I would have to agree saying Orihime is the same as Hinata feels like a stretch.

[VanitasDS76491]

This is just one big circular argument.
 
And to make a point. I don't remember Orihime stalking Ichigo, being wholy unhelpful and never being there for him when he needs help, and still winning over his affection despite being pretty much a stranger to Ichigo. So yeah, I would have to agree saying Orihime is the same as Hinata feels like a stretch.

I mean the comparisons was about orihime not doing anything in the series, while she is fine that does care about her friends unlike hinata, I know she cares about her friends just look at her rukia they great friends.

[VanitasDS76491]

Mmm, well that is a problem with her character then, but that doesn't mean that it makes Ichihime unbelievable. That is just poor character handling.

Agreed that's the problem I have with nh and ss they have little to no development or built up to make it believable.

[DeathGodMack]

I mean the comparisons was about orihime not doing anything in the series, while she is fine that does care about her friends unlike hinata, I know she cares about her friends just look at her rukia they great friends.

Just because Orihime isn't as combat capable as some of her friends doesn't make her useless. Healing Ichigo numerous times isn't doing anything? Providing emotional support when ichigo didn't have his powers isn't doing anything? Being Ichigo's shield(He asked her to support him)in the final battle isn't doing something? Saving Ichigo by taking the attack of a deadly hollow isn't doing anything? She LEFT for hueco mundo to protect Ichigo. Hinata never did anything like that. Also the people who ask why Orihime didn't do anything in the fullbring arc need to realize she was under the control of Tsukishima's powers. So what could she have done? The ending was bad but the pairings aren't the problem. Some people really think that if the end game parings where switched with ichiruki/ishihime it would some how make the ending "better". Also for the last time this is not like the Naruto situation.  Again Ichiruki/ishihime bias.

Edited by DeathGodMack, 03 January 2017 - 04:03 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Just because Orihime isn't as combat capable as some of her friends doesn't make her useless. Healing Ichigo numerous times isn't doing anything? Providing emotional support when ichigo didn't have his powers isn't doing anything? Being Ichigo's shield(He asked her to support him)in the final battle isn't doing something? Saving Ichigo by taking the attack of a deadly hollow isn't doing anything? She LEFT for hueco mundo to protect Ichigo. Hinata never did anything like that. Also the people who ask why Orihime didn't do anything in the fullbring arc need to realize she was under the control of Tsukishima's powers. So what could she have done? The ending was bad but the pairings aren't the problem. Some people really think that if the end game parings where switched with ichiruki/ishihime it would some how make the ending "better". Also for the last time this is not like the Naruto situation.  Again Ichiruki/ishihime bias.

All that stuff with was good but went nowhere, the end chapter would still be the same even if you switched the pairings or ichigo would be rukia s lt. But orirhime says she wants to help ichigo but goes back on it when things get to bad like when ichigo git killed by ulquiorra.

[T XD]

I was a reader of the Bleach manga who didn't support any pairing cause I didn't feel like it The only thing that mattered to me the most is the one you're seeing on the left side of the post XD

 

Firstly, the character of Orihime's and Hinata's :

- Orihime had done some progression in the manga on the level of battle skill. She helped well her friends and healed them well. It's a good development on the battle skill level. Still, we must never forget that she's one of the main characters. This puts her above Hinata by status, focus of appearance and development in the manga.

 

- Hinata had done some showing of what other skill she may have. Not progression of skill wise cause we've never seen what a specific skill progressed to. Also, she's a side character. So, not showing, mentioning or developing some of her characteristic isn't going to affect the aspects of the manga. Unless we saw all the side characters getting treatments and she alone didn't get the same treatment, which that didn't happen in the manga.

 

- What Orihime and Hinata have in common is the type of character. The way they express themselves and act is the same. They fall in the same category and kind of character we all know of and that are : shy, demeanor of innocence and the type of character, like in many other manga, that are in love with / likes the main male character.

 

Secondly, Ichigo x Rukia and Ichigo x Orihime :

- Ichigo x Orihime : Ichigo didn't show or gave the impression that he could be into Orihime in the manga. Also, it can include what one could say : " Ah. Those two will be together at some point or at the end of the manga " like when you read other mangas and see other animes. Whereas, Orihime was known from the beginning of the manga that she has romantic feelings for Ichigo.

As for moments, all of them were from Orihime's side. Ichigo saying for Orihime to be his shield in the battle isn't a moment to be taken for granted unless he showed multiple times interest in Orihime which that wasn't case. Neither one moment alone can solidify and go with a pairing.

 

- Ichigo x Rukia : Ichigo didn't say that he has romantic feelings to Rukia and Rukia didn't say that she has romantic feelings to Ichigo, but Ichigo and Rukia showed or gave the impression that they may very well be together.

Both showed moments of mutual care that got focused on, showed many times that they get concerned about each other more than they do to other characters which got focused on, acted like when two characters that usually get together in many other manga, showed that they are the most important person to each other... I feel like I forgot one or two more things which I can't remember now.

 

- IR and IH don't have the same strength of the care and importance being solely to each other. Ichigo and Rukia showed mutuality in this strength, but Orihime and Ichigo didn't show mutuality in this strength.

Strength of the care and importance being the same solely to each other :

IR :

Ichigo ---> Rukia

Rukia ---> Ichigo

 

IH :

Orihime ---> Ichigo

Ichigo ---> Not much or as seen with Rukia

 

As for moments : IR > IH

 

- The ending pairings were inconsistent with how the manga was brought up. NH and IH are the same in terms of character and how both got together. Not in terms of what Orihime and Hinata did in the manga.

 

Conclusion :

Thus, NH and IH are the same brought up couple. As for performances outside romance between Orihime and Hinata, they aren't completely the same in this one.

Edited by T XD, 03 January 2017 - 10:43 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

I was a reader of the Bleach manga who didn't support any pairing cause I didn't feel like it The only thing that mattered to me the most is the one you're seeing on the left side of the post XD
 
Firstly, the character of Orihime's and Hinata's :
- Orihime had done some progression in the manga on the level of battle skill. She helped well her friends and healed them well. It's a good development on the battle skill level. Still, we must never forget that she's one of the main characters. This puts her above Hinata by status, focus of appearance and development in the manga.
 
- Hinata had done some showing of what other skill she may have. Not progression of skill wise cause we've never seen what a specific skill progressed to. Also, she's a side character. So, not showing, mentioning or developing some of her characteristic isn't going to affect the aspects of the manga. Unless we saw all the side characters getting treatments and she alone didn't get the same treatment, which that didn't happen in the manga.
 
- What Orihime and Hinata have in common is the type of character. The way they express themselves and act is the same. They fall in the same category and kind of character we all know of and that are : shy, demeanor of innocence and that this type of character in many manga are in love / likes the main male character.
 
Secondly, Ichigo x Rukia and Ichigo x Orihime :
- Ichigo x Orihime : Ichigo didn't show or gave the impression that he could be into Orihime in the manga. Also, it can include what one could say : " Ah. Those two will be together at some point or at the end of the manga " like when you read other mangas and see other animes. Whereas, Orihime was known from the beginning of the manga that she has romantic feelings for Ichigo.
As for moments, all of them were from Orihime's side. Ichigo saying for Orihime to be his shield in the battle isn't a moment to be taken for granted unless he showed multiple times interest in Orihime which that wasn't case. Neither one moment alone can solidify and go with a pairing.
 
- Ichigo x Rukia : Ichigo didn't say that he has romantic feelings to Rukia and Rukia didn't say that she has romantic feelings to Ichigo, but Ichigo and Rukia showed or gave the impression that they may very well be together.
Both showed moments of mutual care that got focused on, showed many times that they get concerned about each other more than they do to other characters which got focused on, acted like when two characters that usually get together in many other manga, showed that they are the most important person to each other... I feel like I forgot one or two more things which I can't remember now.
 
- IR and IH don't have the same strength of the care and importance being solely to each other. Ichigo and Rukia showed mutuality in this strength, but Orihime and Ichigo didn't show mutuality in this strength.
Strength of the care and importance being the same solely to each other :
IR :
Ichigo ---> Rukia
Rukia ---> Ichigo
 
IH :
Orihime ---> Ichigo
Ichigo ---> Not much or as seen with Rukia
 
As for moments : IR > IH
 
- The ending pairings were inconsistent with how the manga was brought up. NH and IH are the same in terms of character and how both got together. Not in terms of what Orihime and Hinata did in the manga.
 
Conclusion :
Thus, NH and IH are the same brought up couple. As for performances outside romance between Orihime and Hinata, they aren't completely the same in this one.

Thank you for this that's pretty much what happened.

[LuckyChi7]

Okay so it's been almost 5 to 6 months since the Bleach series ended, and I will say the ending to me wasn't that bad, but I'm not gonna lie and say the ending itself is a masterpiece cause it isn't. There is still a lot of stuff left unanswered from the final arc that I wish got answered. Also I got to give Kubo some respect for what he was able to pull off with the later half of the series.. I love that he always thought about the ending to the series, and that it was also kinda of his drive to keep doing Bleach along with the the letter he got from that sick kid I mean I've got alot of respect for him. So I really hope he gets to do another manga series even if it was a monthly series cause honestly i feel that he deserves it.

 

 

also as for the pairings, i don't have a problem with Renruki or Ichihime, but just like NS.. IchiRuki will always be my OTP in bleach because to me I felt that their bond was just that strong, and they had such amazing chemistry. That's not saying i hate the ending because my OTP didn't happen because it isn't. There are "bigger' issues regarding the ending of Bleach than something small like the pairing. All I want to say is i still ship IchiRuki and i'm proud to admit that, and for me The series truly ended at the Arrancar Arc not because I felt the last portion of the series was complete garbage, but I've always felt that the Arancar Arc ending was the perfect spot to end the series, and I still feel that to this day. I see the arrancar arc ending as like the end to a video game story, and The FullBring Arc + Thousand Year Blood War Arc as like expansion packs (DLC).

 

Anyway I also thought about sharing this cause it made me smile!

 

  

 

Mainly cause it's snowing where I live at the moment 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Looking back, it's not the worst, but utterly lackluster. My review still stands, just less harsh tone. Lol.

[AHK]

lol I still think it's utter garbage. The ending was terrible lmao

[TouKen4Life3g]

I find it odd on how they tried to have Ywach preachy all the sudden. We just spent the whole arc of him laughing all the way with killing, domination, and all kinds of evil deeds, only to tell me that he was good all this time in a way? I would comment that WSJ shouldn't do that anymore like romance, but I know there are better writers to fill in.

[T XD]

I found the ending was mostly empty.

 

The thing is, Kubo or other person/s that got the idea, relying on post ending novel/s isn't a good thing. It shows that the manga lacked many things. Plus, many readers of manga don't read novels cause they're not part of the true story. I'm one of them too.

Edited by T XD, 07 January 2017 - 03:58 PM.