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[TouKen4Life3g]

I'm not touching with 20 foot pole, but what's the story on Shin.

[TheFirstEvil100]

kitten even Doctor who can do it better I mean its like this song that for told what was going to happen to Rose.

 

 

But a question what would you guys do if the Doctor was in the kitten up? after all fun to know what everyone will think.

Edited by TheFirstEvil100, 11 June 2015 - 08:38 PM.

[Shadow1275]

Yes, he did. Naruto looks real sad about him not being in jail for it too.

Oh c'mon he's completely harmless. Just look at those pupp.....Serpent eyes

 

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

It's confirmed that Yahagi is indeed Kishi's balls and brains

[TheFirstEvil100]

It's confirmed that Yahagi is indeed Kishi's balls and brains

Oh that is so true good god I miss him at least we know he would have not let this happen at all damn its sad I have seen fan fics that are better than this kitten up of a mess.

[Illnevergiveup3]

Ok so...

my thoughts...

To be honest guys, the first time I read the chapter, I looked through it very quickly because I wasn't interested at all.
Then I came to this page were it is said about Sarada's mother to be Karin.

I was so shocked. I don't understand what Kishimoto wants to put. I don't understand at all. Guess I will wait for next chapters to have a proper thought about all that...

So, I re-read the chapter, because I wanted to understand...
The first thing that's utterly shocking me right now is that :

HOW 'NARUTO' CAN BE CAPABLE OF STANDING HERE, IN FRONT OF OROCHIMARU'S EXPERIMENTS, JUST WATCHING, AND SAYIN NOTHIN' LIKE IT'S SOMETHING NORMAL ?

I mean really ? The Naruto we know would make a fuss about all this. OK he became adult, but the real Naruto would make a fuss. He would be indignated, hurted, and crying because living creatures are used like they are things. And yet 'Naruto' is only saying : "Do you think it's OK" ? WHAT THE KITTENING KITTEN Kishimoto ? At least keep Naruto like himself ! No ? And please, making Naruto don't understand what is happening in front of his eyes is kittening treat him like dumb. He's more intelligent than that Kishimoto come on...

I'm unable to get over this.
 

keeping Naruto like himself would mean that he would have to be going all out to go rescue his Sakura-Chan. Kishi can't have that. (Yet) lol.

[Sakura~]

OMG Karin is her real mother?

[RedFaction]

OMG Karin is her real mother?

Yep, Sarada is going to be OP as kitten.

[Sakura~]

Kishi not only lost his NS fans but his SS fans as well. hE only has his NH fans now I guess.

[Pix]

Okay....there's much I would like to discuss but I guess I'll say it right off the bat: you can't blame any side on this one. For the people who did believe Karin was Sakura's biological daughter- for him to say that NS was a red herring, it was very likely that Karin being Sarada's mom was another detailed red herring too. For all the people switching sides saying "it was right there in our faces", they'd probably be the same people who would've said that if NS became canon in chapter 700.   

 

Personally, I wanted Karin to be the mother so bad. But I wouldn't let myself believe it because I didn't want to be fooled again. Apparently Kishimoto doesn't play by "hints and rules"- he just writes anything and decides it will be canon along the way. (Example: Tobi is Madara/Obito, NS or NH, and now, Karin's daughter). 

[Nate River]

Okay....there's much I would like to discuss but I guess I'll say it right off the bat: you can't blame any side on this one. For the people who did believe Karin was Sakura's biological daughter- for him to say that NS was a red herring, it was very likely that Karin being Sarada's mom was another detailed red herring too. For all the people switching sides saying "it was right there in our faces", they'd probably be the same people who would've said that if NS became canon in chapter 700.   

 

Personally, I wanted Karin to be the mother so bad. But I wouldn't let myself believe it because I didn't want to be fooled again. Apparently Kishimoto doesn't play by "hints and rules"- he just writes anything and decides it will be canon along the way. (Example: Tobi is Madara/Obito, NS or NH, and now, Karin's daughter). 

 

It's like scenes from a Hat in Whose Line Is It Anyway? He just puts a bunch of random stuff in there and draws what he pulls out.

[Sakura~]

I just need to see NH fans burning.That's all I want.

[AHK]

I just need to see NH fans burning.That's all I want.

As long as SS keeps getting shat on as well, I would love it. Absolutely love it.

[Pix]

I just need to see NH fans burning.That's all I want.

Yeah they're still my Notp. It's the most bland, boring canon couple in existence. 

[Sakura~]

As long as SS keeps getting shat on as well, I would love it. Absolutely love it.

Tbh, NH fans are worse than SS fans. 

[AHK]

Tbh, NH fans are worse than SS fans.

Meh, I don't think so. SS fans do nothing but excuse and romanticize abuse and murder, they don't care about either party in the relationship, they're all just self insert fangirls. NH fans are terrible, but SS edges them out. Barely though.

[Pix]

Tbh, NH fans are worse than SS fans. 

Hm. I hate NH fans more, but SS fans are worse. 

 

Meh, I don't think so. SS fans do nothing but excuse and romanticize abuse and murder, they don't care about either party in the relationship, they're all just self insert fangirls. NH fans are terrible, but SS edges them out. Barely though.

Yeah exactly. They will cut off their toes just to prove that SS isn't abusive. And it makes you wonder how many of them are young kids that might possibly be in an abusive relationship later on in their lives. That's seriously kittened up. And no matter how much crap is thrown at them they still eat it up because "lol Sakura and Sasuke must of have sex <3". Ridiculous.

[Otaru]

OK. My opinion is that DNA testing is a red herring. Definitely. The answer is in the DNA sample.

 

Suigetsu is not sure it's from Karin's birth so...
Seems to be an umbilical cord still. So... from who ?
At first I thought it was from Sakura because it would be perfect to prove she's the mother undoubtedly... but... why would Karin have this... ?

That perfect match is weird. Perfect match is not possible unless with yourself (or a clone...) right ? Does Kishimoto even knows that ? Did he want to simplify everything for his young readers ?

So what ? All that kittening story about clones... is that umbilical cord Sarada's ? Why is it in Karin's desk ? Is Sarada a clone ? A clone from who ? Why all that philosophical discussion about parenting, genes passing and all ? Is Sarada an experiment ? Did they want to create the perfect ninja with Uzumaki and Uchiha DNA ? Ugh my head....

The question is : why the kitten is there a DNA testing in that gaiden ? Why ? Well because nobody believes that Salara is Sakura's child. So let's do a DNA testing because it's not questionable right ? So... will that DNA sample be from Sakura ? Does Kishimoto read the forums ? I mean it's so deeply unbelievable those theories were CRAZY but still we find it in the canon manga a short time after some fans wrote it in forums. How is that even possible ? Did fans in Japan made a fuss about it that much ? To me it's a proof that Kishimoto is writing whatever and that he never predicted to write all this kitten.

Still... all this is just horrible and I don't really care who the kitten the mother is.
 

It's hurting me deeply to see fans here pushed to a point for them to write "Naruto is a piece of trash".
Really.
It's hurting me.

Naruto is not that.
This is not him. He's not like himself at all.

Everything is destroyed. The real story was wrapped too quickly in the end, and the end is not satisfying at all. And then, we're forced in that gaiden and we're not interested in these stories because we wanted the original story to be wrapped with care and time. Kishimoto said he wanted to finish everything, and to me he didn't succeed at all. And now that gaiden... that brings MORE drama were the original drama hasn't got proper answers... it's deeply unsatisfying because the characters don't have fulfilled lives.
 

That plot is so empty it's still telling me that Kishimoto is writing whatever comes to his head. He never wanted to write all this time about Naruto. He wanted to end it sooner. He probably wanted to end it with Pain arc.

What I don't know, is the reason why he's writing all those horrible things.
Is this because he believes this is good ?
Is this because he wants to destroy it all ?
Is this because he wants to tell us some message ?
Was he forced to write about this ?

I still strongly think that NEVER THE KITTEN he wanted to write those stories. IMO he wanted to give Naruto the Hokage title, Sakura the girl of his dream, and a child and that's it. Neji was supposed to be the heir or Hyuuga clan, Sasuke was supposed to live in Konoha trying to repair his sins, Tsunade was supposed to give Naruto the Hokage title, the bijuus were supposed to be freed. Why is Kurama still in Naruto's womb ? Were are the other Bijuus ? It was supposed to be a HAPPY END WITH NARUTO'S DREAMS FULFILLED. It was foreshadowed enough. And we're forced into this... and we even never saw Naruto BECOMING Hokage... ugh...
 

Edited by Otaru, 11 June 2015 - 10:22 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Kishi not only lost his NS fans but his SS fans as well. hE only has his NH fans now I guess.

There the only ones he and SP care about now.

[Narufan85]

Can we sacrifice Naruto Gaiden to R'hllor? This chapter is dark and full of terrors.