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[Aizen-Sama]

the mk tag is now the nh tag. lol so much of this is in the tag now.
 

My god....is this a kittening joke? Damn MK-wannabes, NH is so desperate & pathetic LOL.

[Ryriena]

Aha he doesn't seem that happy with Hinata in the first place, after all he would be the most happiest with Sakura.

[Aizen-Sama]

Aha he doesn't seem that happy with Hinata in the first place, after all he would be the most happiest with Sakura.

NaruSaku is MK parallel and those motherf*cking bastard NHers stole that. They always said parallels don't matter & aren't proof and yet they're fapping in happiness over this ridiculous-ass MK = NH paralulz!! The hyprocrisy outrages me, not to mention they're so damn insecure they need a forced parallel of the parents which act NOTHING like the canon couple. Seriously, have you ever seen anything like this in any other manga or story?
The parallel doesn't even make any sense, Naruto had Kushina's VERBAL TICK not temper, and Hinata is absolutely NOTHING like Minato! Even if she was the comparison STILL doesn't make sense since Kushina told Naruto to find a girl like LIKE HER not Minato. Just, God...this is ridiculous.

[rocci]

@for tokyo ghoul reader.
Why kaneki call Touka with chan suffix?

[Ryriena]

I have seen a lot of this type of thing in other pairing fandoms to justify their ships even thought it makes no sense for said pairing. NH's are very insecure about the pairing because it is all one sided love and they know this to be a fact. Why do you think in NH fictions they always pair Sakura up with Susake or another boy. It's so their are no obstacles in the way for Hinata to end up with Naruto in the story.

[Ryriena]

@for tokyo ghoul reader.
Why kaneki call Touka with chan suffix?

chan is the suffix that is used when your close with someone like a sister or mother. While they drop the suffix like Naruto did over the years when things get really serious between the two.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

@for tokyo ghoul reader.
Why kaneki call Touka with chan suffix?

Red-herring, yo, lol

[TouKen4Life3g]

@for tokyo ghoul reader.
Why kaneki call Touka with chan suffix?

Not sure to be honest. He just do. Still, it did at one point beat my head to the wall. Metaphorically speaking that is...I feel like it can be a curse thanks to Naruto, even though other series wins the girl with that suffix, but that's not really important. Either way, Naruto obviously tried to downplay it greatly now. TG is pretty obvious on pairing to the point they already have supporters. So the only fear is the story, if the series is that cruel to give us bad ending in tone sense.

[AHK]

@for tokyo ghoul reader.
Why kaneki call Touka with chan suffix?

Because Touka is dear to him, as they are really close.

[Otaru]

 

 

 

This is the real parallel that makes sense imo

 

That drawing was beautiful... when you compare it with new drawings... ugh...

Edited by Otaru, 01 May 2015 - 11:51 PM.

[rocci]

@all
Thanks. But it kind of surprise me kaneki use chan fix to the heroine of the story.

Well there's this rumor about sakura pregnancy.
If that's true, I think it would happen in the movie.
And if sakura pregnant, than Hinata must be pregnant too.
Hinata will pregnant with byakugan eye and then most likely it gonna be a son.
Naruto third son and sasuke son will become best buddy.

Call me when I'm wrong.

[Otaru]

No, he said that about Rtn.

 

Ah right ? Sorry guess I forgot...

[NarutoUzumaki01]

@all
Thanks. But it kind of surprise me kaneki use chan fix to the heroine of the story.

Well there's this rumor about sakura pregnancy.
If that's true, I think it would happen in the movie.
And if sakura pregnant, than Hinata must be pregnant too.
Hinata will pregnant with byakugan eye and then most likely it gonna be a son.
Naruto third son and sasuke son will become best buddy.

Call me when I'm wrong.

[griff142]

NaruSaku is MK parallel and those motherf*cking bastard NHers stole that. They always said parallels don't matter & aren't proof and yet they're fapping in happiness over this ridiculous-ass MK = NH paralulz!! The hyprocrisy outrages me, not to mention they're so damn insecure they need a forced parallel of the parents which act NOTHING like the canon couple. Seriously, have you ever seen anything like this in any other manga or story?
The parallel doesn't even make any sense, Naruto had Kushina's VERBAL TICK not temper, and Hinata is absolutely NOTHING like Minato! Even if she was the comparison STILL doesn't make sense since Kushina told Naruto to find a girl like LIKE HER not Minato. Just, God...this is ridiculous.

It is just sad to try to even take away our parellels because they are that insecure. Honestly it is official they are making the manga, the freaking manga that made this series noncanon. NONCANON!!!! Kishi must hate his own work. Sellout. Name a respected author that would do that? Only the scumbags in the world.

[rocci]

[Aizen-Sama]

It is just sad to try to even take away our parellels because they are that insecure. Honestly it is official they are making the manga, the freaking manga that made this series noncanon. NONCANON!!!! Kishi must hate his own work. Sellout. Name a respected author that would do that? Only the scumbags in the world.

I'm kittening glad I ship NaruSaku. NH is kitten.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

That drawing was beautiful... when you compare it with new drawings... ugh...

 

I know whatcha mean, Otaru... this was awesome, especially because of the student and teacher bond; Hiruzen and Jiraiya, Jiraiya and Minato, Minato and Kakashi, then closing out with Kakashi and Naruto. :) It worked so well.

[griff142]

I'm kittening glad I ship NaruSaku. NH is kitten.

So do I. I was shipping this pairing since the beginning and believe in it more once they were compared to Heaven and Earth. The parellels showed it and he development. NS for life.

[Aizen-Sama]

So do I. I was shipping this pairing since the beginning and believe in it more once they were compared to Heaven and Earth. The parellels showed it and he development. NS for life.

NH is fantasy dude. NaruSaku is reality.

[Bail o' Lies]

 

 

Even if Oda wanted to talk about how kitten Kishi's series is, I highly that doubt they would publish it and Sell it at a Naruto Exhibit, you know 

 

Also, when Oda was saying that Naruto is more popular in Foreign Countries (which is mostly True)... He probably didn't want to hurt Kishi's feelings by saying that Manga outside of JP barely even sell, so it's a pointless victory in that sense 

From the two translation I read it comes of that Oda is being really nice and complimentary to him is because they are both friends. Also there really isn't a point for Oda to rub it in Kishi face about how his series is failing. Since it's failing and the reason behind (the decision to go with that ending and The Last) are probably open secrets at Jump.

 

I'm actually glad the designs are so ugly now. Makes it easier to say, these are not the Naru, Saku, and the Sas that was canon for 698 chapters.

Honestly Sakura the only one that actually looks good. Naruto looks terrible (some time he does look ok at best) with that incredibly short hair and it only looks good in images from The Last is when he had his headband on to hide his forehead. Sasuke barely even recognizable now.

 

It was like a moment of clarity in a story written by a mad man wasn't it? Which I guess it was honestly. Why are their child soldiers in a world of supposed peace? It's obviously developed into a capitalistic society somehow, yet the villages are still teaching kids how to kill people when the chances of war have all but been erased according to the author himself.

 

Why is there a military dictatorship in a land where there is no war?

Why are parents happily still training their children to be killers in a time of supposed everlasting peace?

How is the ninja system going to survive in a world where economic consumption, and trading are obviously the biggest drives of the economy, and plundering and war are no longer profitable?

 

Kishimoto of course didn't take any of that into consideration, because this story is nothing more then a setup for an SS wedding and maybe in the end Burrito and Salad will grow up and have sex. Why? Because the drive of this story is now about nothing more then soap opera dramas, and the most popular pairings, in order for Kishimoto to make as much profit as he can with the fan base he still has.

I think the whole ninja were going to fade out along with everything else you were wondering about was abandoned the second he realized that the spin off/sequel would be boring (not a lot of action) if the kids weren't ninjas. So Naruto accomplished nothing so his son's story could be even slightly interesting.

 

I'm starting to get the gist that despite chapter 700, in this mini series. Sakura and Sarada is shown to live in the Uchiha district with the Uchiha Crest all over their destroyed house. In chapter 700, Sakura's house was shown to be near the Hokage's tower, which I think is the origins of what could have been a NS house. Sakura was also wearing two red hairpins, which symbolizes a NS red thread of faith. Kishi either is a sick twisted writer or he just dumped whatever he intended with NS into that last chapter. It was obvious that Sakura was going to be Naruto's wife. 

Everything shows how clearly the final pairing were decided at the last minute, and none of it was set up in the story.

 

He's lying for the most part because he does not want to admit that he gave up. Him saying he rewarded Hinata by giving her Naruto out of pity and how he suffered from Sasuke and Sakura (SS) for 15 years and does not know how they end up otherwise proves that he doesn't like like those pairings at all. Other than telling the NS fandom that he was misleading them and Sakura cannot move on from Sasuke because she will be a terrible woman, he never said a bad thing or mocked NS at all.

 

speaking of Sakura being a terrible woman. It seems like Kishi is unaware that he's depicted her as one in the first chapter, so she is a terrible woman from withhelding information, using a Team Taka picture as her own. Kishi's brains is scramble and needs to get his head examined       

It is obvious that kishi never really consider making either nH and ss canon until he was forced to, or really given thought to how the couples would work if he had to make them the official couples.

 

As for the excuses why NS didn't happen. Every interview it feels like they had to come up with a new reason why NS couldn't happen and why the two other pairing did happen. The reasons are obvious they are trying to find an excuse/justification for why the ending had to be this way to appease the disgruntle fans and justify the ending in their own minds. When an excuse angered those fans instead of calmed them down they tried another one.

 

Information about Gaiden....

 

SPOILER

 

 

Naruto, Salad master confirmed?

Wait I thought Sasuke was going to be their team captain? Is it more about apprenticeship ie Sasuke take Bolt under his wing and Naruto does the same for Salad?

 

 

I always had the feeling he was forced to do this. (thank you for all those informations)

It was probably and mixture or coercion (this is what all your fans truly want, and you can have another story a sequel your fans will love and you can write the spin off movie) and being forced (we all already have a movie 6 books the sequel movie in production either you do this ending or fans will question why the ending corridict all this stuff/ also the editor are not letting you do a NS ending) to do it.

 

Well NS is kind of the core, in that they were the ones trying to keep team 7 together/alive. If they didn't they never would have been a team again (which they really aren't now but w/e...)

Both Sasuke and Kakashi were aloner in the group. Naruto and Sakura were needed for the group to work. Naruto interested Kakashi with his potential, and Sasuke with the brotherly/rivalry bond. While Sakura gave support where she could. Also the first half of part 2 especially the reintroduction and bell rest shows how well Naruto and Sakura work together and how close they are. 

 

No way in hell is NS a red herring. Does Kishi really expect me to believe that? 

From what i recall it was an excuse to try to explain away all all the MK=NS parallels. 

 

I'm never calling it a red herring, even sarcastically. It's an unresolved subplot, I absolutely hate that. It was very obviously Kishi's intended outcome. The only reason I supported it was because it had all of the necessary evidence supporting it.

I also hate the fact that Naruto becoming Hokage had almost no weight behind it. It was supposed to be the crowning moment of the seties. Instead it was soulless. Like watching Gohan go from being the most powerful fighter in the universe to his old wimpy self. Years of development thrown away. A crime against good writing.

Honestly what was the point of Naruto or Kakashi becoming hokage if we don't actually see it? Sure Kakashi was a last minute thing but Naruto people have been waiting to see that since chapter one. Everything.

 

I am watching a video about all stupid (and illogical) things in Naruto, and the guy mentioned a thing I've never thought about : "How did Lee pass the exam in the academy if he can't use ninjutsu ?" 

I always thought it was because Guy volunteered/requested he be put on his genin team. So as long as Lee could do all the non chakra related skill adequately he passed.

 

  They're trying to give Naruto Kushina's temper(which he never had!!??) because Hinata is nothing like her.

Seems that way.

 

Hypocritical considering how most of them shunned parallels & comparisons and yet they're treated to THIS. NH is the embodiment of double standards.

nH fans hated MK=NS parallels they love nH=MK parallels. Remember all they ever care about was being right logic doesn't matter to them. They decided early on Sakura was a slut who needs to die and Hinata was a goddess who should get anything she ever wanted and nothing was going to change that.

 

kittening gross. Naruto is on his stupid laptop. Hinata's boobs are bigger than ever. Himawari still looks ugly. And Boruto just copies Naruto.

Of course Hinata's boobs are bigger. Kishi finally been told why her fans love her and why they wanted her to get together with Naruto. Her gigantic breast. In the manga they were always hidden behind jackets... most of the time, the original sketch for her outfit for the Last they were cover by so jacket, and in chapter 700 they weren't that big or noticeable. But since he now know what the fans want make those thing as big and visable as possible.

 

Yeah, comparing the pics side by side, the original carries more weight because we actually know the characters. The NH/MK pic just looks like a joke.

 

And hello? Comparing Hinata to Minato??? He's the freaking Hokage!! He's the most powerful guy in the village, a practiced killer who can effortlessly wipe out whole teams at once. He's not a mousey, shy housewife-type who was a mediocre shinobi that had to be saved at almost every turn. 

 

This pic is ridiculous, and clearly only done to give validity to the massive retconning at the end of the manga. Again, it stands out that they are trying so hard to convince everyone that NH was meant to be. Where's the SS pics? Where's the SS parallels. Oh that's right — there aren't any. This manga was supposed to end NS.

 

So this was at the gallery show? That was months ago - wonder why this is only turning up now? What else was at that awful show? Wish we could just see it all and get it over with.

Wait this was from the gallery show!?... This just goes to show how uninterested Japanese fans are of nH. Since none of them bothered to post this image online (but they did they SS family photo) we would know if they did since the nH fans would be bring it up in all their arguments(which they will probably start doing).

 

 

I know what you mean, Tricks. Seriously, Hinata is NOTHING like Minato, since you said it yourself. Not to mention Hinata's character didn't get the depth Minato has, in spite of the fact she had so much potential.

 

The pic is also very ridiculous and shows Kishimoto-sensei didn't intend to end Naruto NH, but with NS, and he's just covering his tracks to ignore the fact he failed, as I've been saying for months!

 

I think those family pictures in black and white of NH and SS were at that gallery show. ~_~ I just feel SMH for Naruto right now, even if a majority of that hate is toward Kishimoto-sensei for screwing us over like he has.

This image was probably drawn around the same time as the SS family photo or Sp did that other nh=MK picture. The intention behind were to suppress the MK=NS parallel. Remember one of the big reason why no one believe the ending were because of all the parallels to NS=JT/OR/MK. So to dismiss that point someone told/suggested/order kishi to probably do this image to help support the ending and the nH=MK parallels.

 

Don't really know if this is going to work since I'm having some bizarre problems with my internet connection.

 

My impression is close to yours with some differences.

When I look at the original I see the family that could've been. When I look at the NH, all I see is a dead family. Naruto sort of cares but is more preoccupied with his new technological toy, Burrito is pathetic copy of the old Naruto, the mop is just there with no reason to exist or to live she has no purpose to exist, she's just there and Hinata is what in my language is known is a "carpa de sters pe jos" the translation for that would be "a rag for wiping the floor" basically she's worthless. She can't do anything and everyone can do anything with her. She's pathetic, if you tell her to do something or to shut the hell up she's do it as along as someone notices her, she has no backbone.

Here my comparison of the two images.

 

First off who was in charge of coloring for this new image? All the colors are dull and subdued. It help remove the lively comical effect the original image colors help add to the scene instead this one has a more dull depressing somber tone instead.

 

Room:

 

Original: The original house was very vibrant and colorful had picture on the wall we can see a kitchen behind Naruto. Looks like a family lives there.

 

 New: Those table and chairs are the most colorful things in that room! Even they look dull in color compared to the old picture. Everything else is uniform and bland, and the window look metallic. It just make that house fell cold and lifeless.

 

Children

 

 Original: Since we know who Naruto is we know he in a rush to start his day so he can get one step closer to becoming Hokage. He also look more cheerful with the lighter colors.

 

 New: The only thing we know about Bolt is that he hate his sh*tty old man. So for all we know he's trying to escape his sh*tty family sh*tty breakfast. His hair is hiding if he has a quirked eyebrow like Naruto does in the original so I can't tell if he is being playful or not or if he is angry? Also since we only seen the daughter smiling in the three images we have of her. I can't tell what she is thinking since she always has the expression. Dull surprise/"oh that's my brother"/the egg is going to fall out what!?

Parents

 

Original: The upset parent Kushina has her hair rise up in a comical fashion also is holding a spatula and frying pan in her hands. She is also somewhat the secondary focus of the image because the scene is Kushina reacting to Naruto racing out of the house instead of having breakfast with the family. Her husband looks on with a nervous expression. It feels very comical and live like this is another day with the wacky Uzumaki's.

 

New: Naruto right arm is covered by Bolt. His expression i guess is suppose to look comical, but because the colors, his expression and everything else removes that effect entirely. Hinata doesn't react to her husband at all and just has a dull surprise expression looking at Bolt.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 06 July 2021 - 08:03 PM.